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Can Astrology Help You To Make Money From Races?

By Chanakya | 09-Feb-2017
Yes, it can.

Most of the punters will scoff at the heading. They can not be blamed because most of the practitioners are amateur, some of them are fraud and very few- who are knowledgeable will come forward to explain their' modus oprendi'

I am neither an expert nor an amateur- but a keen student of this science.

I believe that you can make money and live on the income from races based primarily on the 'predictions' of this enigmatic science...

from tomorrow till 28 February I will post my selections based on ASTROLOGY and will prove that you can be a winner and some one much much more...
Post Your reply

52 Replies

Deshi said ...

18-Feb-2017
@ PRADEEP SETHI


thats true haha

Sophos said ...

15-Feb-2017

Chanakya

you bely the very name you write under. The real one must be rolling over in pain somewhere.

So do u really need any handicapping method or any astro-numerology to utter those words, "MOST FEVORITES WILL NOT WIN TODAY"

Even my 5yr son says most of fevorites will not win and he is right almost 65% times.

Racing is game of skill and to spot winners u need to have sound knowledge of handicapping. When someone is not relying on handicapping for picking winners then he is not a punter but a plain gambler.

"from tomorrow till 28 February I will post my selections based on ASTROLOGY and will prove that you can be a winner and some one much much more... "

This is ur grand statement. You have not posted a single winner since but the generalised lay bets. I could sunday hyderabad lay bets only there too only one fev lost out of three, clear loss.

Do not try to put blinkers on the HTians here. They are not as....as u think them to be and you are not as wise as u think u r.

So if u have any credibility at all then you will post clear selections win or lay, name the horse.

I hope u have it in u to stand by ur claims and prove everyone ur worth once and for all. If not we will take it as rantings of an old, idle man with plenty of time to waste.

Stop Fooling Punter said ...

14-Feb-2017
Mr raj at least you have written in a polite manner and accept others view.Please under stand we all are Indians and Astrology is too much embedded in us. Our marriages, Grah parvesh, child ceremony naming all is based on it.

How ever racing is a differnt ball game as you have seen. I know trainers owners who have failed to give a winner[now I have stopped asking them ]and have seen them losing money.So cannot complain.
Now If you have got long term winners fine but what is overall score over the month.
Now i survive purely on mostly place bets and palyibg only fer races.
One golden rule I follow is never play Any odds on favs.

If you give one or two winners fine. I am sure no one will grudge it as for me please excuse me if I do not follow them but some here will.

Chanakya said ...

14-Feb-2017
It is useless to waste time in further fruitless discussion. I have proved it few times on forum and elsewhere how a punter can make money from racing. Perennial losers will neither understand nor believe others. I have PROVED in my earlier posting on 5/1/16 on this very forum -how I made my million and USED THAT MONEY TO FINANCE MY 45 DAYS TRIP TO USA IN JUN-JULY 2016...

Raj said ...

14-Feb-2017
Mr.raghavan
I can post my choices of ASTRO NUmero working.
I don't know how many will follow.
It's all depend on time available.
As you are particular I will start giving.
Don't expect all will win or place.
I follow a system which I will give later only for those who can follow my choices.


Shreyas said ...

14-Feb-2017

@ RAJ
Is chanakya telling 100 % correct.... ....Yesterday he said at hyderabad race no 4, 7 and 9 favs will not win....But race no 7 and 9 fav's won....Is this 100% correct.
Check his statement in another thread for hyderabad selections....Now he should tell why his prediction failed.

Raghavan said ...

14-Feb-2017
@Raj,

Theek hai. So, you are a winner. And you depend on Astro-numero to locate the winners in races.

Knowing the subject, and firm belief in that approach is one thing. Coming on a public forum and making big claims is another thing.

It seems, your latest comment is somewhat belated. Whether those who gave their views till now will continue to show their interest in this thread is yet to be seen. Hope one more series of nays and yeahs begin.

I leave it to you either to take this extra trouble or totally ignore.

Can you post your choices hereafter till the end of current seasons for all the remaining race days of all centers this season. (Till last week of April)?

You can post your choices with heading "astrology based tips". You can post 1, 2, 3 or more choices a day. You can skip 1 day or 10 days. The only thing is there should be around 75 tips from you during next 60+ days. And, the bet amount that you are intending to bet on that choice.

This is not a challenge to you. The challenges from me are restricted to only those who make big claims. You can either agree or disagree to my suggestion.

But, if you decide to agree and post your choices, well and good.

Raj said ...

13-Feb-2017

To All members who have commented on chanakya.
Iam in racing from 1975.Almost 40 years.
What chanakya is telling is 100% correct about
Applying Astrology in racing.but iam not sure what methods he is applying.in my racing experience I won many winners at 10 to 1 and 15 to 1 only based on Numerology.this iam telling from 1990.still I apply Numerology and pick up few winners.
But for the last 15 years iam getting winners basing on Astrology .I started studying deeply and found out this is God's Gift.i pick my selections basing on Astro Numero.i don't go by others tips,inside information,track,or other things.iam blindly getting from this method and why I should get from others.
In this 15 years I got Many Many long shots varying from 10 to 1,15/1,20/1,30/1,even 60 to 1.
What I observed from the comments that some cannot believe.but it's happening.its all depends on how each one is working on this subject.iam working on a particular method and Results are there.Every race day iam getting few winners and some days four to 6 winners.
In racing you must have some strategy.with out strategy only failure s will be there.thats why many punters fail..
If my picks are required that have to be followed.its not that whatever iam giving all will win.it has to be done with a system
You must have luck, investment,patience.then you will succeed in racing.
In racing every one can make some money everyday if they have some system.i can assure of this.
All the best
Raj

Stop Fooling Punter said ...

13-Feb-2017
Chanaksya pleasse clarify if you a punter or ak book maker .
Yiu seems to be confused in this I mahappy you read my choces which are for me and mycontest notfor any public like you.

Chanakya said ...

12-Feb-2017
There is a proverb - pre-warned is pre-armed.

It does not apply on racegoers. Today I warned everybody that most of the favorites will fail. 13 favorites failed out of 17 races run at Mumbai and Hyderabad.

IF YOU LAY ALL THE 17 RACES YOU GO HOME WITH 7 UNITS PLUS...

That is what bookmakers are doing since ages and fooling gullible punters, as well as , those 'holistic' type of writers...

Chanakya said ...

12-Feb-2017
@ Stop fooling punter,

somewhere you have posted following tips/advice...

Hyderabad races- Cash Landing and Greek star win - they did not even pay you place money, win was out of question.

for Mumbai your great tips were- Jack Forest SHP, Renee win - NONE OF THEM ENABLE YOU TO WIN A SINGLE PAISA...

SORRY, PAISA IS NO MORE AVAILABLE , REPLACE IT WITH RUPEE..

Chanakya said ...

12-Feb-2017
@ Krish,

I bet only for win Rs.1000 + tax.

Krish said ...

12-Feb-2017
Dear Horse players!

Next race day onward I will be picking winners on the basis of Astro-numerology and past performance.

Thanks

Krish said ...

12-Feb-2017
@ Chanakya,

My style betting: I bet 1000 Win, 1000 Place, 1000 SHP =3000

My return calculation:
Amazing Redd - Win & Place paid 10900 net return 7900
Jersey Wonder - Win & Place paid 10900 net return 7900
Cameron - SHP & Place paid 5700 net return 2700
Siyouni - SHP & Place paid 8100 net return 5100
Havelock Princess - SHP & Place paid 5500 net return 2500
Derby day Mumbai:
Celtic Prince - SHP & Place paid 15300 net return 12300
Raees - Win & Place paid 10200 net return 7200
For your information, I focus on return.

Bharat said ...

11-Feb-2017
Interesting topic.

I feel that if any tipster or believer of Astrology and/or Numerology may give his selections for a minimum of 3 or more races(per race day) for 7 race days.

At the end of 7 days if he is able to protect 75% investment(i.e. say his total investment for 7 days is 20K and he succeeds in getting back 15K(winning amount including stakes) i.e nett loss of 5K) one may consider start following his selections based on Astrology and/or Numerology.

In that event one may survive or gain using martingale system of betting.

If strike rate results in a loss of more than 25% of investment of the week, only daring persons should or could consider such a system.

Best of Luck.

Bharat

Chanakya said ...

11-Feb-2017
@ Krishna ;

you gave 2 tips Little love/Havelock Prince .
Both lost . you lost 2 units

@Stop Fooling Punter,

you also gave 2 tips- Race 3 Mauritania and Tea Wid Me - both lost.
how much you lost , you only know.

I gave Shivalik Boy win who lost, and told Noble Flaire will lose. I recovered my loss on SB by 'laying' Noble Flaire and came out with NO LOSS.


BOTH OF YOU HAVE STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO QUESTION THE SUPERIORITY OF ASTRO PREDICTIONS!

Bkd said ...

11-Feb-2017


Anyone interested to read through the original SILVER KEY...here's the link..

https://www.scribd.com/doc/265185285/Sepharial-The-Silver-Key-A-Guide-to-Speculators-pdf

All the best!

Svp said ...

11-Feb-2017
@ Champ

Aim of this thread is not to help innocent fools to make money or improve their knowledge. Aim is merely to show how some people know everything about everything.

Ravi Gowande said ...

11-Feb-2017
Sepharial a very reputed English Astrologer has produced numerous books on astrology and racing. His book Silver Key gives various methods and one method based on Lunar Phase ( Thithi in Indian Astrology) gives very good results in Handicapped races you can choose weight of horse which is likely to win based on Thithi. I have personally tracked this system for years and It works pretty good.
Silver key was published almost 80-90 years back. The book I have is published in 1940 and reprint. Another method Horary numerology of the turf by Rasajo is another good book with good results only drawback is you have to be present on the race track and first race decides the outcome of another races.
Ravi Gowande
Pedigreestar

Stop Fooling Punter said ...

11-Feb-2017
Dear Ravi
you have given a very clear picture and it is hard work which got you results and not some lopsided ideas my friend is trying to show off.

I hope many take note he has not made any money by betting

Krish said ...

11-Feb-2017
Astrology play very important role in winning horse selection.To pick a winner you need not study advanced astrology rather basic astrology fair enough. To link horse racing system to basic astrology one must know basic numerology. By applying Astro-numerology you will find 3 to 4 horses will have winning chances. Now, here plays very important role of past performance to pick a winner out of 3-4 horses short listed. Astro-numerology is very to useful to get good return on betting. It may be Win or SHP or Place. To achieve good return one must do karma.
Here Karma means to take action or bet and do not think of result.

Ravi Gowande said ...

11-Feb-2017
I am an astrologer, Electrical Engineer, Certified Occupational Safety and Health auditor from National Safety Council of India. For question posted by Chanakya Answer is Yes and No. It is possible if speculative gain is present in your birth chart.
Regarding using astrology I have plenty of success using astrology. I am third generation astrologer. My father advised me never to do any speculative betting because speculative gain is not in my birth chart. That does not mean I can not make money in Racing. Already made some good money in Racing. By providing consultancy services. Imported mares for the clients.
I use astrology in combination with Pedigree analysis. I know most of pedigree systems prevalent in the world and I choose Dosage system of Dr Steve Roman. ( He has already closed his site and will not be available from June 2017 onwards.) My results improved considerably after combining these two systems. Dosage with Astrology. Notable success being Sprint Star. Rs 10 Pay out was Rs 870/- Grade 1 winner. Was picked out from analysing more than 1500 Foal date astrological charts and Pedigree catalogue pages. Foals produced in that year. and One single horse was picked and informed the connections almost 8 months in advance when sprint star just started training. But it took me 4 months of hard work to do the selection.
in 2005 I had set a target to predict a 50 to 1 odds Grade 1 winner using astrology in next 5 years for myself. I did that on 21 June 2009.
Dear Readers Astrology is a science and can be effectively used in Racing.
Ravi Gowande
Pedigreestsar

Raaj said ...

11-Feb-2017
@ Mr raghvan,
yesterday (3) and (12) were strong so I predicted
COOL BABY == CARD NUMBER 3
LITTLE LOVE ==DRAW NO 12
PARADISO all three have excellent chance .One of them may win and all three will PLACE. === CARD NUMBER 12
Apart from above
But just see the result
Race no 2: TANOURA CARD (3) WON
Race no 2: SAFFRON INTENSE ( draw (3) ran 2nd
race 4: AMAZING RED had DRAW (12)
Race 5 :JERSEY WONDER CARD (3) won
race no 6: NATANZA CARD(3) WON
race 8: HAVELOCK PRINCESS CARD 3 ran 2nd

Champ said ...

10-Feb-2017
So much arrogance for a post at 1-50 pm, which no racegoer can see before races. Chanakya, your only selection was Shivalik Boy has good chance to win. Noble Flaire will find it difficult to win din't cut much ice because you can't eat at Bangalore tote unfortunately.

Chanakya said ...

10-Feb-2017
@ All,

selections were posted and will be posted on the thread used by the tipsters for the day.
Morbid queries - where it is posted shows the level of understanding of the person...

Raghavan said ...

10-Feb-2017
@Raaj,

Good shot! Now, I am very much interested to hear from you the Astrological logic or support that prompted you.

Little Love

Chanakya said ...

10-Feb-2017
@ Ruchi, & S. Shinde,
Thank you.
@ BKD,
There are many methods for handicapping a horse race – speed rating, pace rating, weight handicapping, numerology, Nameology ,Astrology and many more.
Years of hard work and testing, retesting , modification , change are required to obtain a reasonably successful method.
After 4 decades, I am still evolving my speed rating and astro rating values and have reached a stage wherefrom I am always staying in a positive territory.
Success rate has no tangible value. 80% success rate of odds on favorites does not stand against 10% success of 10/1 outsider which will compensate for 9 straight losses!
I aim for that...

@ Shreyas, & Monty,
Before you cast an aspersion on a science - try to learn it. Then PROVE it is wrong.
@ Sangeetha,
Horseracing , NOW, is about finding a winner. Speed, pace, stamina have their importance but do fail in some cases . Roman numbers were a rage after his book came out but 80% of this year’s Indian Derby runners FAILED on stamina count – though there was A WINNER OF THIS RACE!
I use speed as my stepping stone for calculations. Astro has warned many times that this favorite can not win.
In one of my headpost last year ( available some where in the list of articles of this forum) I have proved that .

@ Saddleup,
Thank you

Stop Fooling Punter said ...

10-Feb-2017
He wrote and just vanished as many had predicted.

So much so for Astrology

Saddleup said ...

10-Feb-2017
If it is from chanakya - it should have some stuff

Kalpesh said ...

10-Feb-2017

Waiting for Chanakaya's predictions for today. Has ot been posted in someother thread.

Raaj said ...

10-Feb-2017
Astrologically today
COOL BABY
LITTLE LOVE
PARADISO all three have excellent chance .One of them may win and all three will PLACE.
What the ASTROLOGICAL support they had to prompt me to predict will disclose Later.

Guru said ...

10-Feb-2017
Even God cannot help you win in races

Ch.vishnu said ...

10-Feb-2017
BANGALORE
10-02-2017

RACE NO.1-1 WIN
RACE NO.2-6 WIN
RACE NO.3-6 WIN
RACE NO.4-1 WIN
RACE NO.5-5 WIN/PLACE
RACE NO.6-5/12 WIN/PLACE
RACE NO.7-9 WIN
RACE NO.8-1 WIN

BEST OF LUCK

**isaac Ali** said ...

10-Feb-2017
Astrologers cannot predict anythimg in their own life let alone spotting winners in races

Sangitha said ...

10-Feb-2017
Hi Chanakya

Horse racing is about speed and stamina if astrology can get winners people would have followed them long ago, and instead of race book they would have sold astrology book on race days.

The very most important factor in racing is to find out what the horses have beaten in their last few outings and this depends on your selections, and to make money in racing you have to be very shrewed and ply only few races and not all races, secondly do not go behind recovering the losses this will lead to more losses.

Good luck to you

Sangitha

Bhawalakarmadam said ...

09-Feb-2017
Mr.Chanakya

You have already predicted that Invitation Races will be full of surprises.

Please also explain the process of having arrived at a selection as per your system of Astrology

Best Wishes

Tabrez said ...

09-Feb-2017
Well said pradeep sethi i appreciate u

Manish said ...

09-Feb-2017
Astrology does not know about fav. It also does not know about class I and class v difference. So I hope u will give winners in each and every race.

Secondly, astrology should throw winners and plz don't start ur old silly game of eating fav.as per astrology

Ranbir said ...

09-Feb-2017

I have seen it work for Ruchi.
It will work at least 2 races in a day
If your numbers are on the favourites, you smash them.

Kautilya said ...

09-Feb-2017
Look forward to your selection Chanakya sir. I profess implicit faith in the science and your intellect, which my might be beyond the comprehension of the Mlechhas. I firmly subscribe to the fact that besides other intangible matters what you ingest is what governs your body, mind, intellect, spirit and your decision making. After all Artha shasthra took time to be appreciated and was written much before...you know what!!! Truth comes limping.

Regards
Your Resonance


Isr said ...

09-Feb-2017
Nice. Selections basing on Astro starting from Poornima day. Let us wait and see how it works.

Monty Gaikwad said ...

09-Feb-2017
@Mr.Chanakya sir u seem to be broken after loosing in races..i can understand sir once in ma life i have faced such thinking and situation aftr i lost a handsome amount and was nearly to losse my properties like Farms, Home, Car etc.. still i wish u good luck for ur astrology venture
Regards
Monty.

Shreyas said ...

09-Feb-2017
My answer is NO.
Indeed every autowala from hyderabad plays on this astrology concept and by mixing it with draw numbers of the horse.
Mr. Chanakya honestly speaking can you back a horse for one lakh depending on astrology.....I dont feel so.
Your concept is applicable if you wanna back a horse by placing minimum stake amounts( eg: 50rs 100rs ).
Indiarace.com is one of the leading horse racing websites in our country do not spoil the image of this website and HT'ians by mixing astrology with racing.
I would really like to appreciate Mr. Mad Max for SPOT A WINNER CHALLENGE where many racing experts provided there tips......Select one horse for a day and back it thats more than enough in our racing schedule.
A Horse which could not stay for 1000 meters can it win for 12 furlongs in its next outing depending on your astrology....NO !!
MR. Chanakya its better you stop racing and choose astrology but do not introduce this thing into racing it spoils the nature of the game in this HT.

Siddu said ...

09-Feb-2017
some times astrology works out. but always u can not trust the the same.

Krish said ...

09-Feb-2017
Yes, Astrology play very important role in winning(ROI). Let me try one pick on the basis of astrology.

Bkd said ...

09-Feb-2017
Dear Chanakya,

It's heartening to note your interest in Astrology for Horseracing!

Eagerly awaiting your selections. All the best!

I too follow the divine sciences to predict race winners.(Horse NAME-O-LOGY valuates the names of the horses and relates it to ruling numerological factors of the day)

Success rate is about 50% in the Indian Racing scenario!

Cheers!
BKD

Sanjiv Shinde said ...

09-Feb-2017
good luck to you

Ruchi said ...

09-Feb-2017
Interesting indeed

Khan said ...

09-Feb-2017
Lets see ASTROLOGY how this work_if this work 50%. Inshallah I will follow. Hope for the best,,,,

Stop Fooling Punter said ...

09-Feb-2017
There He goes again same stunt tried some time back.

Race courses would have been flooded with astronomers by now. I do not see any one.

In the 70s I heard outside BNG RC his alike sat and sold tips on Astrology
''I believe that you can make money and live on that income''

Why only races why not the stock market ,It will be millions there. Same theory.

Good luck to a senile person past his prime.

Pradeep Sethi said ...

09-Feb-2017
EVEN GOD DOES NOT KNOW WHICH HORSE WILL WIN.

Small Time Punter said ...

09-Feb-2017
Looks like someone is completely broke and desperate :-( Good Luck