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By Mad Max | 23-Jul-2017
TOROROSSO beaten Captain Morgan in the Bangalore Derby by 8-1/2 lengths and same weight they are carrying today also. We cannot imagine Captain Morgan will reverse that verdict on t TOROROSSO if he is fit. Medical report shows Tororosso was treated for infection for the last three months – twice each every month. The race day reports might have influenced the bookmakers to quote 3-1/2 to TOROROSSO and miserly 12/10 to Captain Morgan.
You won't find many sire who combine courage, class, speed, versatility and consistency more than Red Giant. This is a thoroughbred who gave 100% every time relished a fight. His Son Tororosso has all that in him, barring some overdose of temperaments. Even if you check the dam line, Dam Paula’s Girl is the best of the lot on stamina factors. To me it looks like a half fit TOROROSSO can beat any horse in this field.
Caprese : DP = 4-0-6-0-0 (10) DI = 2.33 CD = 0.80
Yana: DP = 10-7-18-2-1 (38) DI = 2.17 CD = 0.61
Paula’s Girl (Chi): DP = 8-0-19-7-0 (34) DI = 1.06 CD = 0.26
Flowerof theforest: DP = 6-2-13-2-1 (24) DI = 1.53 CD = 0.42
FINAL CHOICE:
TOROROSSO-WIN
You won't find many sire who combine courage, class, speed, versatility and consistency more than Red Giant. This is a thoroughbred who gave 100% every time relished a fight. His Son Tororosso has all that in him, barring some overdose of temperaments. Even if you check the dam line, Dam Paula’s Girl is the best of the lot on stamina factors. To me it looks like a half fit TOROROSSO can beat any horse in this field.
Caprese : DP = 4-0-6-0-0 (10) DI = 2.33 CD = 0.80
Yana: DP = 10-7-18-2-1 (38) DI = 2.17 CD = 0.61
Paula’s Girl (Chi): DP = 8-0-19-7-0 (34) DI = 1.06 CD = 0.26
Flowerof theforest: DP = 6-2-13-2-1 (24) DI = 1.53 CD = 0.42
FINAL CHOICE:
TOROROSSO-WIN
26 Replies
Jayakumar said ...
24-Jul-2017
Tororosso place is even money as a punter If you want to earn money go with place than win, every time winner is not possible.
Mad Max said ...
24-Jul-2017
@ Santosh & Others,
What hope I lost man? My horse either won or finished SHP. It is not like that people post 1000% bet and it passes the post next day...?
How many times I said it before ".. if so and so horse will win I will stop posting this analysis in HT" and all the time I was successful so I continued till Mathaiyus met its waterloo, and my exit was myself solicited.
Secondly, if anyone thinks that I lost heavily on Mathaiyus they are living in a foolish paradise. Writing an analysis before the race and playing with our hard earned money at race time both are entirely different. I can correctly decipher the body languages of most of the of jockeys, so for me I have all the time to disregard a negative horse. I dont want to convince Horse Talkers whether I played Krieger or Tororosso.
@ SFP
You read your comments once again. Who fancied Captain Morgan...? CM was my Lay Bet.
If you think Krieger is a Class-II horse, think like that.. But I can assure you, it wont run in Class-II never ..because it cannot carry top weight in Class-II, so if the connections wants to win it will run in Class-I with feather weight. The way Trevor whacked this horse, I wont say it will win in Class-I as well with feather weight in the near future.
Few tipsters have forgotten they tipped Life Awaits and Champagne. I correctly raised the negative shoeing on these two horses. Post race they all are silent.
During the last few days I analysed races in unalike and contrasting ways, used incongruent methods, more than that never struck in a particular method to pick the winner.
@ Stalingrad
Name a tipster who tips more than 40% winners consistently. Then why should I bother?
@ Khalid
@ Dr. Bashaar
@ Ayyarnet
@ Nilban
@ Striker
@ STV Chennai (once you were my critic)
@ Tarun
In Regular Selections thread I will post LAY BETS and some good bets on information like I posted NATIVE ELEMENTS yesterday (KPG Appu's first winner as trainer).
@ KK
Who told you I am blaming anyone? Mad Max challenged himself, he promised to himself to quit if his horse fails. So there is no second party.
@ Varun
Post race all are full of wise comments. You are an example. Comme on blaze HT with such comments before the race. Otherwise people will call you....?
@ Zeddzzz
You have made three comments under this thread. Stick to one point in future.
@ Rajgopal Nair (You posted another proper noun in previous thread)
@ Gopal (You have used another proper noun under this thread, somehow now it is missing)
Are you sure I have changed names earlier, or changing names in HT like Octopuses, Chameleons, or many species of crustaceans, insects, cephalopods, squid, cuttlefish, some frogs, lizards and certain fishes change colours? If you are sure reveal it properly. In the last thread you used RG and made some adverse comments. Today you chosen Gopal and advised me to use your previous name RG and come back. What is your agenda here? When I quit the contest (which Mr Rao took over and completed) Ram Iyer commented Mad Max will come back with a new name. What is happening here? I am still here ! You people may fade to eternity still I will be here as Mad Max, God Willing.
@ Assesser
Yes you are that man follow principles !
What hope I lost man? My horse either won or finished SHP. It is not like that people post 1000% bet and it passes the post next day...?
How many times I said it before ".. if so and so horse will win I will stop posting this analysis in HT" and all the time I was successful so I continued till Mathaiyus met its waterloo, and my exit was myself solicited.
Secondly, if anyone thinks that I lost heavily on Mathaiyus they are living in a foolish paradise. Writing an analysis before the race and playing with our hard earned money at race time both are entirely different. I can correctly decipher the body languages of most of the of jockeys, so for me I have all the time to disregard a negative horse. I dont want to convince Horse Talkers whether I played Krieger or Tororosso.
@ SFP
You read your comments once again. Who fancied Captain Morgan...? CM was my Lay Bet.
If you think Krieger is a Class-II horse, think like that.. But I can assure you, it wont run in Class-II never ..because it cannot carry top weight in Class-II, so if the connections wants to win it will run in Class-I with feather weight. The way Trevor whacked this horse, I wont say it will win in Class-I as well with feather weight in the near future.
Few tipsters have forgotten they tipped Life Awaits and Champagne. I correctly raised the negative shoeing on these two horses. Post race they all are silent.
During the last few days I analysed races in unalike and contrasting ways, used incongruent methods, more than that never struck in a particular method to pick the winner.
@ Stalingrad
Name a tipster who tips more than 40% winners consistently. Then why should I bother?
@ Khalid
@ Dr. Bashaar
@ Ayyarnet
@ Nilban
@ Striker
@ STV Chennai (once you were my critic)
@ Tarun
In Regular Selections thread I will post LAY BETS and some good bets on information like I posted NATIVE ELEMENTS yesterday (KPG Appu's first winner as trainer).
@ KK
Who told you I am blaming anyone? Mad Max challenged himself, he promised to himself to quit if his horse fails. So there is no second party.
@ Varun
Post race all are full of wise comments. You are an example. Comme on blaze HT with such comments before the race. Otherwise people will call you....?
@ Zeddzzz
You have made three comments under this thread. Stick to one point in future.
@ Rajgopal Nair (You posted another proper noun in previous thread)
@ Gopal (You have used another proper noun under this thread, somehow now it is missing)
Are you sure I have changed names earlier, or changing names in HT like Octopuses, Chameleons, or many species of crustaceans, insects, cephalopods, squid, cuttlefish, some frogs, lizards and certain fishes change colours? If you are sure reveal it properly. In the last thread you used RG and made some adverse comments. Today you chosen Gopal and advised me to use your previous name RG and come back. What is your agenda here? When I quit the contest (which Mr Rao took over and completed) Ram Iyer commented Mad Max will come back with a new name. What is happening here? I am still here ! You people may fade to eternity still I will be here as Mad Max, God Willing.
@ Assesser
Yes you are that man follow principles !
Santosh said ...
24-Jul-2017
HI MADMAX...
DONT LOOSE HOPE.. KEEP ON POSTING... WE NEED UR GUIDANCE..U R OUR SERGENT AT ARMS.. EVEN HE LOST ONCE... BUT HE NEVER QUIT THE RACING....HE CAME BACK MORE STRONGLY.. HE PROOVED HIMSELF.. WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK LIKE HIM..
I ALWAYS FOLLOW UR TIPS...AND LIKE ME THERE R 1000 N MORE OTHERS UR FOLLOWERS.. FOR THEM U NEED TO BE HERE
DONT LOOSE HOPE.. KEEP ON POSTING... WE NEED UR GUIDANCE..U R OUR SERGENT AT ARMS.. EVEN HE LOST ONCE... BUT HE NEVER QUIT THE RACING....HE CAME BACK MORE STRONGLY.. HE PROOVED HIMSELF.. WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK LIKE HIM..
I ALWAYS FOLLOW UR TIPS...AND LIKE ME THERE R 1000 N MORE OTHERS UR FOLLOWERS.. FOR THEM U NEED TO BE HERE
Stop Fooling Punter said ...
24-Jul-2017
We have been toghter many times.
However on Sat the warnings signs were there but you ignored it and went for a class two horse.Kieger
On sunday you got carried away with the fact that trevor will get his 1000 win on C.M. what is so great if not a week later,that is what happened.
Second no work out on the horse M''US won without raising a sweat and i had very clearly given so even in my PTR [I had put 1,40,000 for a win] how BTC is cheating punters.
I got 6t o1 with bookies where as they got 37 to 1 in BTC on tote!.
Any way cool down take a chill pill and than decide
However on Sat the warnings signs were there but you ignored it and went for a class two horse.Kieger
On sunday you got carried away with the fact that trevor will get his 1000 win on C.M. what is so great if not a week later,that is what happened.
Second no work out on the horse M''US won without raising a sweat and i had very clearly given so even in my PTR [I had put 1,40,000 for a win] how BTC is cheating punters.
I got 6t o1 with bookies where as they got 37 to 1 in BTC on tote!.
Any way cool down take a chill pill and than decide
Stalingrad said ...
24-Jul-2017
Dear MadMax,
Its always good to start with fresh air when we just clogged with suffocation
Take a long breath, feel urself fresh and go ahead, its always good to help others without any expectations
Take the positive comments n ignore the negative, I need not to say this to an experienced person like you
All the best.. Hope you'll bounce back soon..
Its always good to start with fresh air when we just clogged with suffocation
Take a long breath, feel urself fresh and go ahead, its always good to help others without any expectations
Take the positive comments n ignore the negative, I need not to say this to an experienced person like you
All the best.. Hope you'll bounce back soon..
Khalid said ...
24-Jul-2017
Mad Max plzzzzzzz do not stop posting.. It was TOROSOZ race. There is no match for this beast. Please do not stop your noble job..You have really helped people make good money.. THESE guys can comment only, ignore them. They know that you are really good, and unfortunately this is how the world has become now, TOROSSO was a good SHP deal. I backed it under ur recommendation. You have proved yourself enough, you don't need to prove anything to anyone now, I can assure you, that U have a huge following here people here are literally waiting for your picks, and back them blindly. I an eventful sport like racing the success you achieve is second to none.. U r our TOROSSO. Pls don't stop posting. We love and admire you. Thank You and God Bless.. People who open there mouth should first realise this is Racing. There has not been a single time that Mad Max has dissappointed his followers. Critics may rest in peace!
Mad Max said ...
24-Jul-2017
@ To all,
I just stopped posting the "Single Race Analysis" and not quitting HT at all. I will be available in Regular Selections section with my casual LAY bets or some selected choices. I will also post my replies to other Horse Talkers comments on various topics. I will only return from Winter Season with "Single Race Analysis" and please do not post persuading requests. Respect my decision !
I just stopped posting the "Single Race Analysis" and not quitting HT at all. I will be available in Regular Selections section with my casual LAY bets or some selected choices. I will also post my replies to other Horse Talkers comments on various topics. I will only return from Winter Season with "Single Race Analysis" and please do not post persuading requests. Respect my decision !
K.k said ...
24-Jul-2017
Hello dear mad max....
PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS SAY TO FAITHFUL TPISTER..BUT MATURE
PERSON NEVER REACT..SO BE BRAVE ..N GIVE YOUR GOOD TIPS TO FOLLOW..
PLS NEVER SAY WILL QUITE THE THRAED..COM ON DEAR..
K.K
PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS SAY TO FAITHFUL TPISTER..BUT MATURE
PERSON NEVER REACT..SO BE BRAVE ..N GIVE YOUR GOOD TIPS TO FOLLOW..
PLS NEVER SAY WILL QUITE THE THRAED..COM ON DEAR..
K.K
Dr.bashaar said ...
24-Jul-2017
Dear Mr.Madmax,
I am one of the few- who have already requested/ many more who might request you still -request you not to stop posting your views which is of big help for most of the HT members.
I also got carried away by your confident statement-If Mathaiyus wins you will stop posting. I had decided to bet all other 3 except serendine in which case my edge bet would have been an insurance for my main bet and I wouldnt have ended up with minus. But unfortunately ( for my badluck) I left Mathaiyus and backed the other 3 after seeing your confident statement. Goodluck/ Badluck are all part of this game.
1 Vijays Joy ( 10/1 ) is sufficient to neutralise 10 losing bets. ( If betting units are maintained ) Your 1 failure is something like a batsman getting out for 0 after scoring 6-7 centuries successively. Do you think the batsman should stop batting just because of this 1 zero?
I dont think your decision is correct. Please reconsider your decision ( This is a sincere request.. you are free to do what you feel is right.. but remember ..by quitting you are making many of your followers in HT SAD. ) and hope you will come back with a double hundred...you are capable of doing that.
Best wishes
Dr.Bashaar
I am one of the few- who have already requested/ many more who might request you still -request you not to stop posting your views which is of big help for most of the HT members.
I also got carried away by your confident statement-If Mathaiyus wins you will stop posting. I had decided to bet all other 3 except serendine in which case my edge bet would have been an insurance for my main bet and I wouldnt have ended up with minus. But unfortunately ( for my badluck) I left Mathaiyus and backed the other 3 after seeing your confident statement. Goodluck/ Badluck are all part of this game.
1 Vijays Joy ( 10/1 ) is sufficient to neutralise 10 losing bets. ( If betting units are maintained ) Your 1 failure is something like a batsman getting out for 0 after scoring 6-7 centuries successively. Do you think the batsman should stop batting just because of this 1 zero?
I dont think your decision is correct. Please reconsider your decision ( This is a sincere request.. you are free to do what you feel is right.. but remember ..by quitting you are making many of your followers in HT SAD. ) and hope you will come back with a double hundred...you are capable of doing that.
Best wishes
Dr.Bashaar
Varun said ...
24-Jul-2017
Guys mathayius has a good pedigree and thr bloodline, connections trainer defines it all, his mother Yana also is a good stayer and her brother Starsky who won indian derby beating allaire was execptional, it is a cakewalk for mathayius in this small field st ledger, well done pesi
Assesser said ...
24-Jul-2017
Mad Max,
"A Promise is a Promise".
I am glad that you are determined to honour your commitment. In-spite of some pleading that you continue your postings, I strongly feel that you should not get influenced - but should stand firm in your resolve. Only then will you be respected by your followers. Further, as you rightly said, there is always another season to start afresh.
Regards.
"A Promise is a Promise".
I am glad that you are determined to honour your commitment. In-spite of some pleading that you continue your postings, I strongly feel that you should not get influenced - but should stand firm in your resolve. Only then will you be respected by your followers. Further, as you rightly said, there is always another season to start afresh.
Regards.
Tarun said ...
24-Jul-2017Just one piece of advice Mad Max, don't argue with someone else's reply by saying you will quit or stop. If your bet fails no issue. Here you lost both ways. Torosso loosing and Mathaiyus winning or should I say placing. Continue picking a single race everyday whatever might be the outcome.
Zeddzzz. said ...
23-Jul-2017
Hi M M.
Inspite Of Whatever Happened Yesterday n Today, We All Want You To Continue Your Good Work. We All Are Humans And We Do Mistakes, If We Don't Do Mistakes, Then We Will Become God, Which We Are Not And Cannot.
A Real Human Being Is The One, Who Do Mistakes, Then Accepts Them With A Big Heart And Try To Correct Them.
So Whatever Happened Iz Happened. Put That Behind You And Continue Your Column. I And Soon Many Believes, Your Column Iz Really Helpful For All Of Uz.
Thanks n Take Care.
Inspite Of Whatever Happened Yesterday n Today, We All Want You To Continue Your Good Work. We All Are Humans And We Do Mistakes, If We Don't Do Mistakes, Then We Will Become God, Which We Are Not And Cannot.
A Real Human Being Is The One, Who Do Mistakes, Then Accepts Them With A Big Heart And Try To Correct Them.
So Whatever Happened Iz Happened. Put That Behind You And Continue Your Column. I And Soon Many Believes, Your Column Iz Really Helpful For All Of Uz.
Thanks n Take Care.
Striker said ...
23-Jul-2017
Mad max sir v need u plz don't quit this...
V love you n v need u
V love you n v need u
Stv,chennai said ...
23-Jul-2017
Hi Mad Max,
Your assertion that you would quit the column if Mathiyus won the race was perhaps said on the spur of the moment.You need not give too much importance to the same.
As far as I am concerned ,anyone giving selections with reasons for the same is a valuable contributor.Most of your analysis and selections have been good and noteworthy.
Most members of H.T.will be only happy to see you continuing your earnest work without interruption.
Best wishes,
STV.
Your assertion that you would quit the column if Mathiyus won the race was perhaps said on the spur of the moment.You need not give too much importance to the same.
As far as I am concerned ,anyone giving selections with reasons for the same is a valuable contributor.Most of your analysis and selections have been good and noteworthy.
Most members of H.T.will be only happy to see you continuing your earnest work without interruption.
Best wishes,
STV.
Zeddzzz. said ...
23-Jul-2017
Hi M M.
Over Zealousness n Confidence Put A Big Black Spot On Your Clean n Excellent Chart.
Your Comment "To me it looks like a half fit T can beat ...." Was Tooooo Much. That Showz Your X-Treme Arrogance And Over Confidence.
Pleaze Be Careful When You Comment Next.
Over Zealousness n Confidence Put A Big Black Spot On Your Clean n Excellent Chart.
Your Comment "To me it looks like a half fit T can beat ...." Was Tooooo Much. That Showz Your X-Treme Arrogance And Over Confidence.
Pleaze Be Careful When You Comment Next.
Mad Max said ...
23-Jul-2017
Really I wanted a rest. Two day's SHP results and my 'promise' I will quit this column if Mathaiyus win. Now it is time to honour it. This single choice analysis from my side wont be posted from tomorrow. In case anyone initiate such a thread I may be there on casual basis. However, from Winter season I will try it afresh with all your permission. Thanks for all good wishes extended.
Arktouros said ...
23-Jul-2017
I am really really really happy i played Mathaiyus 6/1 10k what a deadly combination of pesi and neeraj i loved it last time i also played Manifold 6/1
Ayyarnet said ...
23-Jul-2017
MadMax
MATHAIYUS won today. However we request your good self to continue your posting. Take it easy in good sportsman spirit.
Regards
ayyarnet
MATHAIYUS won today. However we request your good self to continue your posting. Take it easy in good sportsman spirit.
Regards
ayyarnet
Stalingrad said ...
23-Jul-2017
Dear MadMax,
With al due respect, I suggest you not to challenge in racing as anything can happen in a race..
Being the most respected tipster I never wanna see you get down in a discussion, let us respect everones selections and post race joh jeetah wohi sikhander. No hard feelings.
With al due respect, I suggest you not to challenge in racing as anything can happen in a race..
Being the most respected tipster I never wanna see you get down in a discussion, let us respect everones selections and post race joh jeetah wohi sikhander. No hard feelings.
Nilban said ...
23-Jul-2017
@ mad max,,
don't stop posting..
Regards
don't stop posting..
Regards
Zeddzzz. said ...
23-Jul-2017
Hi M M.
Your Analysis Are 2 2 2 Good On All Dayz.
But Today, By Saying " A Half Fit Tororosso Can Beat ......." Looks 2 2 2 2 Much. A Full Fit T Looks Very Very Very Difficult To Beat C M Today. C M Iz A Vastly V V Improved Horse. It's Next To Impossible To Beat Him Today. Still Wishing You And All The Very Best.
Take Care.
Your Analysis Are 2 2 2 Good On All Dayz.
But Today, By Saying " A Half Fit Tororosso Can Beat ......." Looks 2 2 2 2 Much. A Full Fit T Looks Very Very Very Difficult To Beat C M Today. C M Iz A Vastly V V Improved Horse. It's Next To Impossible To Beat Him Today. Still Wishing You And All The Very Best.
Take Care.
Race&go said ...
23-Jul-2017
PLAY SHP....
NO 4 SERENDINE
NO 4 SERENDINE
Dilip Abd said ...
23-Jul-2017
It's all going to be mathaiyus and Captain morgan
Mad Max said ...
23-Jul-2017
If MATHAIYUS win today I will stop posting in HT.
Even I dont fancy this horse for runner-up also.
If it can win then Serendine can also win.
TOROROSSO is the horse to beat, but his condition is not known. Race day reports say it is suffering from some kind of Infection. If Tororosso is not fit, then Captain Morgan can win.
Even I dont fancy this horse for runner-up also.
If it can win then Serendine can also win.
TOROROSSO is the horse to beat, but his condition is not known. Race day reports say it is suffering from some kind of Infection. If Tororosso is not fit, then Captain Morgan can win.
Stop Fooling Punter said ...
23-Jul-2017
M''YUS has been qell prepared and will win easily .
Let us not neglect Pessi Baba [the user of imported feed for his horses].
An each way bet for me for this horse
Let us not neglect Pessi Baba [the user of imported feed for his horses].
An each way bet for me for this horse
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