Hello SSPP Sir :

Sorry Sir

I am not aware that you are holding a HR Manager in Kerala. Gnayaan ariyilla sir Shamikkanum.Ninkaludaiya story kandu manasula orupadu vethanai yundaakki. Athanda kariyamana nikkalukku korachha kariyam parainchu. Shamikkanum.

Wishing you all the best

ayyarnet

@ Confused

Your words are consoling and aimed clearing the air of confusion. I really did not seek sympathy, support or money from anyone as I lead a very comfortable life now with a own house, a Ford and a happy family. I travel a lot with my family members amidst my tight office schedule.

@ Ayyarnet

You think you are a Super human, but in reality you look nothing. You must know others can easily read between the lines when you write something. Hope you are a learned person and understand English. My email ID (unlike yours) is not there for everyone to make a march. Hope you got it. One day, you may have sell your story to some film-maker, and who knows sometimes it could be me! But will it be worth an investment?

Folks,

The topic is taking a turn which is not required at all.

For the people who believe in Astrology, Zodiac signs, Palmistry etc, etc, there is an aspect that whether a person can be successful in Speculation. Though in the times when these sciences were formed, it would have applied to a few aspects, but now-a-days you can apply it to range of activities like share market, racing, etc, etc.

I am surprised that Ayyarnet did not mention this though he has touched upon other aspects.

Most are not destined, particularly punters in racing, and SSPP was one among the many, AND he had the guts to come out with his story. I don't think he expected any sympathy from us, he just wanted to share his story and lighten his mind and heart. We need to understand that !!

Hello My dear SSPP:

After a second thought I will talk to some of my friends who produce short film as a project for students studying Visual Communication. Please give your email ID i will ask them to contact your good self. I am talking to you seriously.You can market your episoides May be you can make little money which can come handy to you in the time of need. We are trying to help you only and NOT trying to add fuel to the fire.

Regards

ayyarnet

@ Ayyarnet:

In your previous post (just before the last one) you said "I don't want to read your story again and again and spoil my mood" but even after taking such a resolve, within minutes you've come to counter me with another poser. This is what is called "inconsistency", and perhaps this is what you must be practising in every action of yours, right? But I'm not so. After having decided not to enter any race-course, I have stuck to my principle. Why you want me to take up another employment when I'm already in a good post (HR Manager) in a leading firm in Kerala? One thing is true, you cannot digest anyone who opposes your views. This is a dangerous trend my dear. Try to correct yourself and once in a while also accept the advice of others. And you are no one to tell me not to write in this forum only because I am no more a punter. I will continue to issue rejoinders to interesting posts, including yours. Having critics around is always a healthy sign, although I don't consider myself to be one.

My dear SSPP:

One small correction - You have not committed any mistake the correct word should be BLUNDER !

As a whole group we r quite happy with all pulling or pushing in Races we are not going for MONEY alone and we will not go like your good self. Our education is no use if you do not distinguish RIGHT from WRONG. We never go beyond our limit.

For awareness your story is really worth taking a Short Film !

Please take things easily. Life is not for suffering buy happiness only.

I am sorry I have nothing more to add further to you. I request you not to disturb our friendly atmoshere here. I thing very rarely people can act like you. We are really sorry for you.

Why dont you focus your attention somewhere else. Agaio and agai talking about Race will disturb your peace of mind why dont you forget everything be happy with your family and take up an employment or something useful for living or passing time. Please forget about Races for some time.


ayyarnet

@ Ayyarnet

All of a sudden so desperate? Signs of instability...! Do not curtail freedom of expression please. Learn to call a spade a spade in life. I think you need awareness. How can a person like you enlighten others. Why should I live in fantasy when I admitted my mistakes. You look like a person who want to impose your thoughts on others, then how can you be acceptable to others. Please talk to your conscience first before you talk to others. Can only pity on you.

Hello Dear SSPP:

Sorry we are not born to shape the world. Just I wanted to help you to mend your ways. We do not believe your stories. Because no sensible person will play second petti after losing one petti. These are alllooks like fantasy. You may not be a practical person. Please stop washing dirty linen in the public. Let all your negative thoughts go with you do not spread for others.

According to you one must lose peti by peti then only he is a RACE GOES is it !

By the by anyway you have left Racing then why you bother other people here. Be happy cheerful and enjoy life dont think about racing.As I have told it may not leave you fear is always haunting you.

I do not want to read your story again and spoil my mind.
Best wishes to you.


ayyarnet

Well said SSPP

We all know that more than 75% of participants here are nothing but boasting of themselves...There's a saying...A Barking Dog never bites....
IR.Com has developed this page for healthy exchange of views...not to boast that they're always winners ,, which obviously doesn't happen...
And we need not help others to increase our income...just help your own families...they will be happy!!
Just winning or getting points in a waste online competition guessing winners/ shp (PTR) is different from real betting strategy... I know and I bet that noone here is a winner...I don't even think these worms ever heard a 'Petti'

Regards

@ Ayyarnet

It appears that you are more a fortune-teller than a race-goer, more a theist than a thinker, more a philosopher than a pragmatic person. From the way you open up yourself it appears you've run into nightmares in life (even now) so much so that you've become a non-stop preacher. Sorry, I'm not of that kind, as I'm more a practical person.
The every rupee that I put into racing till my last few days when I began borrowing from known sources (even all that money I have repaid without keeping a rupee in balance) was my hard-earned money. The gold jewellery I pledged and sold was my (wife's) own, and not my neighbours. The loans that I took were in my name, and you know pretty well that banks don't keep quite if you falter in repayment.
The 2 pettis that I had in my possession when I ventured into Mysuru race course was a conversion of mere 10k into profits that happened in Bengaluru the previous week. I was determined to make a quick buck because that was the need of that hour. I wanted money. My father was in death bed in Appollo Hospitals, Chennai at that time on account of renal failure, and I was in need of huge sums. What else to do? If I play Rs.100 I got another Rs.100 back by the end of the day, but my requirements were in big thousands, hence the hasty attempt.
I beg to differ with you when you said "ASK our Dr. Nath whether he played any time petti betting." Why should I ask Dr. Nath. Who is he for me other than a friend through HT. He may be the be-all and end-all for you, but not me? That I respect him so much for his brilliant expression of thoughts doesn't mean that I should pursue his actions. That's horrible to say.
The so-called 'evil forces' that you've been often talking about in your posts is nothing but your negative thoughts. You must know that when you don't have a positive frame of mind, and keep suspecting yourself you tend to land in trouble. More or less, this must be your current condition. If you're going to claim that you have always been in plus in racing throughout your 25 years of experience, you are doing nothing but bluffing. I am well-qualified, holding a very high position earlier and even now, earning around Rs.one lakh salary. My wife is also in a high position. She possesses a lot of ancestral property in Kerala that my three daughters have little to worry about their future. Despite all this if I gave up racing, that's only because I wanted to be practical, honest and sincere in life. If I incurred huge losses and went to the extent of having a golden handshake with my employer during those days, it was not due to greed but I wanted the VRS money to replan my life at that stage. I was so confident that I can find another way of living, and what was wrong in thinking so? The only blunder I made in my life then was to keep things to myself. I never told my wife about the huge investments that I was making in racing. There were people to help me whenever I asked for. But a stage came where I thought enough is enough. Maybe another small delay might have driven me to utter disaster, or what I should say a point of no-return. I know the few people who took the extreme step of ending their lives after landing themselves in the lurch. I don't want to join that list and hence the decision to quit.
In my present audience role, I still watch racing live (online) if it's Hyderabad or Ooty and recorded videos of almost all other centres. That's because of the true love I developed for this sport. I never called upon my friends involved in racing to quit. But I just thought let me share my thoughts in a very true manner so that those who feel like having crossed half the well can tread a cautious path.
I will be the last person to take advice from someone who is into racing for long years, and still talks about making money. I am sorry Ayyarnet Sir.


@ stop fooling punter

I don't know if you are doing the kind of hard work (what hard work actually means in racing for punters?) like what I did during those days. I used to have everything at my disposal, from track work, last runs, bloodline, who rode it, what were the previous odds, and sometimes even the comments made by trainers after a run. (I maintained a 1000-page register for this, using different colours for different stables!). So, if you think I went to the course without doing any homework, you're thoroughly mistaken. My point is that despite doing all this, I used to lose. Also, let me make it very clear here that it's not that I did not make profits at all. There were days when I used to come in with say 10 k or 20k and go home with 1 petti or 2 pettis as those will be the days when my choices used to oblige more. Honestly, such days used to come once in a blue moon, and you just can't keep rejoicing over that.

What I wanted to state here for the attention of others (most of who are almost in a precarious condition like what I was just before quitting) is that notwithstanding the huge profits you make on one or two days, you are bound to get listed on the loser's side over a period of time. It happened with many film producers (V K Ramaswamy, Panchu Arunachalam, Rathi and G K Venkatesh to name a few) scientists, doctors, engineers, priests (vaathiyars), teachers, and all types of white-collared people who tried their hands at racing. Do you mean to say they were all fools like me and 'stop fooling punter' alone the intelligent inside the race course? Come on my dear, I think you haven't travelled quite a distance in racing.

Ayyarnet,
now me thinks you are going the raghavan way.
regards

SSPP you have been flooding this site with your sob stories one question t o you only.

Did you spend few hours on pre race study or just picked up the book [as 90% of punters do] and decided to back a Jockey and not the horse.
Some here are doing okay because we are not greedy and try and make millions over night.We spend hours on videos, track workout and earlier runs.
Did you do that?

Slow and steady wins in racing not the Hare you just believe in jumping ahead and become rich over night.

If you feel racing is so bad why write here about it?

Oh come on my dear friend sorry to hear your story. with 25 years with the same company as a Marketing Manager I was drawing 5 figure salary plus perks in my company. I never played more than 3K pr at the most 5k throughout my racing experience

Who compelled you to play one peti ! Ask our Dr.Nath whether he played any time Peti betting. Race course is not going to be closed down in one day. Due to lack of education you have ruined yourself. Even 10k is not sufficient for you. In my opinion because of your peti the result could have been altered by Bookmakers !! Please believe me they can do. When the Club can find out through computers number of tickets in each and every horse every leg of Jackpot phool Book makers also could have sought the help of the club to save themselves.

You went out of control. Can you imagine how much money Book makers will have to pay if you have won the race ? How they can pay you. I am very much pained and constrained to hear your story and you wen out of control and I beg your pardon if I say you became like a Horse without Rider.

Any way past is past Not much use in taking Postmortem Discussion, It is really a good you have quit races . If you can kindly email me your qualification and what you were doing, I can help you Free of charge to recover your monetory loss Of course NOT IN RACES AGAIN but some other ways. If you really need money you can get as much as you want.The real money is NOT THE CURRENCY you see it is an illusion. The real money is something else. Who generates money ? Your employer or Races or any if you think if you are dependent on someone for money you are misguided. Godliness present in the nature provides you in the form of money. When you neglect it then there exists vast gap between you and Godliness. Then your income also will decrease. On the contrary if you are close to Godliness then there will be no dearth funds in your life. If you change your thoughts you can change every thing. Although it is too good that you have quit Races but OUT OF FEAR only you have done. So still the fear is always in your mind and as long as the fear is with you same story will be repeated throughout your life. if you do not misunderstand me again I beg your Pardon what you are exhibiting in present life as Happy and Peaceful may not be True because Fear still with you. Please be honest at least in this point I can remove it for you with fondest regards for you and you do not have to pay single cent for me. I am blessed with enough funds and I have not misused like you rather I must say my people at my home would not not have allowed me also.,

Please email me your just qualification and what you were doing past and now. How you got your 2 Peti to play on that fateful day ?

No obligation for you just as a friend we are extending our help to you since you were a Race goer once !

With best wishes

ayyarnet@hotmail.com

@ Rksh

Sorry, it was not in 2014 that incident happened. It was sometime towards the end of 2012 and soon Prakash retired as jockey to become a trainer. I too started contemplating retirement from racing (as a punter though!) and in a matter of months I could make up my mind.

@ Rksh

I too have experienced bitterly making and losing loads of money.

It was in 2014 (months before I took a final decision to quit racing) that I was in Mysore with Rs.2 lakh. It was IVB on Kolkata races, and a day when B Prakash was entrusted to ride a couple of beautiful mounts of Dr MAM with C Alford ready to take on him on behalf of the Khaitans.

Within the first two races (which I actually did not want to play as they did not feature either Prakash or Alford) I doubled my money, just playing two place bets, but one petti each on around even money odds.

You know in Mysuru you are free to use mobile phones even within the bookie circle, and my brother rang me up from Tirupati where he had gone to tonsure his head. When I told him about the fast buck I made in the first two races, he said "Maybe, today is your day, but be careful... I shall call you after the last race."

Do you know what happened? In the two races that featured Prakash and Alford, I played both of them wrongly. (In one race, I backed Alford's horse at 6/10 two pettis and Prakash won at 6/1, while in the next race I backed Prakash and Alford took revenge. On the whole, everyone took revenge against me!).

By brother, now with a tonsured head, called me in the evening, and I told him that I was tonsured inside the race-course in no time. He could not control his anguish, and said "You will never improve. God gave you two lakh rupees in less than one hour and you could not keep it with you?" (I told him it is only because I played one petti each I could double it, and not by playing 500's or 1,000's.

That whole day I thought about what I happened to me on that day. I felt a lot of chest pain and became ashamed. That was the first time I also thought that I should give up racing soon. I sat with my wife for an open talk, explained to her everything, including all my debts and how a VRS from my job could alone save me. That decision did save me!

Dear SSPP

Thanks for your gesture. I really felt very bad for my words taken wrongly instead of joke. Yes anything you play against Cash is a Virus comparable to that of Cancer. But here as I have said first of all you should not come but by virtue of bad company or your fault or fate if you enter and if you are with some education there is a chance you can survive by taking adequate precaution by editing your subconscious mind. As you say percentage is certainly can be very poor. That is why repeatedly I am telling there exists an evil FORCE you have to accept and take precaution and if you have proper guidance you can take Immunol action against such evil force Best ways is to quit like your good self. That requires strong will power with some one dear to you with adequate guidance.

All the best to you

ayyarnet

All the best to you

Congratulations SSP

Am in almost similar but worse situation than u used to be...but am just not able to get over it...How can I overcome tendency to bet every race even after am in profit of above 50k...
I agree that I lost some thing more than u over a very short period...I know it won't come back...I shud realise that I shud play only for money but not pleasure...these big amounts....U become perfect inspiration for me but am I that strong hearted?...
My divine profession kept me alive till now where I could get peace n wealth n satisfaction as well..
Even 2 days back ...I was in profit of 60k when Exodus by PsChouhan won (2nd or 3rd race of the day)...but continued to play and finally walked out as usual with 1L plus loss....How can I restrain myself?...
I lost about 5 to 6 L on Gentle Knowledge at Kol Till now......And am waiting still today for that one to win this season...How can I stop myself?

How can I turnmyself likke u??

@ Ayyarnet

There is absolutely no bad blood getting created between us on account of exchange of a few posts on HT. We will continue to be good friends. As regards restricting racing as a hobby, I wonder what percentage of punters remain so. Maybe you start it as a hobby and end nowhere. For those who keep it as a profession, the writing is on the wall sooner than later. Horse racing should continue, so to the bookies and punters, but like Darwin's theory it will be the case of "survival of the fittest." I have no qualms in admitting I don't fit into these scheme of things. And so a honourable exit! Wishing all of you a great success in your pursuit for money, pleasure and peace of mind.

@ SSPP

Rest assured, many have walked the same path. You should be proud that you could reorganize your life. I know quite a few who passed away (seniors to me) without a sense of content in life because of this habit (rather addiction). Many others stopped even talking about races realizing this is a futile exercise and are slowly beginning to live contently. Not only this, cards, lottery, video parlors, now casino, online games are equally addictive and have a devastating on ones health and wealth.

Like in all cases, it starts as a fun outing and it slowly sucks you in, people should draw the line between hobby/habit/vice/addiction, and should be able to move away at their will.

In fact I chose my pseudonym to reflect that state of mind !!!

@ SSPP,
Glad you have expressed your misgivings on my reply.I do agree with you that no particular strategy can make you a winner at races.I only pointed out that over the years I have formulated my policy and the same has stood me in good stead.That would mean marginal losses or gains,I do not know.Racing has not hurt me due to strict following of the policy.I hasten to add that strategies of punters differ and what suits one may not suit another punter.I have only expressed my experience.
Regarding the second part,my earlier experiences have to be differentiated from my present policy.In youthful years,I had a greater fascination for spending my time at clubs.This always compelled me to save more of my money on hand at clubs than quickly lose that at races.Now the gambling clubs are no more allowed to function in Tamilnadu;even before the ban ,due to age I have made a retreat from them.
As for investment of 2 k bets in 2 races,I wish to point out that I do not go to races on all or most of the days now as I did in earlier years.I go on selected few days when the card is attractive and I feel that I have 2 good [win or place] bets to make.Moreover,it is not as if I lose every time in those bets.Overall the sratetegy as outlined by me has stood me in good stead.
It is very difficult for many to leave racing and I repeat that you are God Blessed to do so.I wish you all the best in your family life.
Thank you,please do not hesitate to ask me any further doubts you might have.
Best Wishes.

Dear smart-still-punter

I apologize to you in case I have hurt you in anyway. One thing I do not like with our friends either they must quit like your good self or continue with courage. Continuing the racing then shouting this is a wrong game we r losing is bad.

If you do not like better quit. I am very much pleased to hear you have peace now do you know why ? Not that you have quit Racing but you got rid of the evil forces embedded with you while in Racing. Your good self said you did not sell anything on your own but Racing Forced. Many times I have said here since there is no guarantee in Racing those who does not have regular income should not go for Racing. Majority of our friends are forced due to the effect of evil forces. The more they lose more stimulation or temptation for betting takes place

If you can control your impulse betting then plan it before you go to Races not at the Course with a limited amount OK You must take Racing as a Hobby only and NOT for a living ! For the simple principle you can not build a mansion over the grave of other people. What you gain is a loss of other people only. The club does not pay single cent from its pocket. Punters money only redistributed !Just for fun if you take it it is OK If you bet heavily without thinking about the consequences then you had it. If you limit your betting to a certain level as per your income if you adopt certain strategy of your own you will not lose. Even if you lose it is possible you could recover later because your loss will be small amount. I never indulge in heavy betting/ It is better to have small earning rather than losing all. I have not used my earning in Races for personal purposes. Mostly I have spent for charities. I have my own income for personal purposes. I do not have to depend on Racing. It is just for time passing and fun only !! There exists a difference between Hobby and Addiction. If I do do not want I can forego certain races. I may not attend Races for any day but addicted people different story.

The concept of Doosra is by bringing odds on favorite Horse the owner will get just the Trophy only Nobody including Trainer punter will benefit. That is why the trainers sometimes bring doosra. I have also posted even the club also indulge such activities for carry forward Jackpot just before certain classic events.In big event in like Derby or Invitation Cup Races people bet heavily then if the horse on money favorite wins book makers will have to pay heavily. So with the full consent of the Owners Be Safe Effect takes place !!The owners will shed crocodile tears as if they were cheated. But actually everything takes place with their full consent only. So that Bookmakers are saved otherwise they will have to jump in the nearby sea only. As far as punter is concerned only a small amount but for the Book Maker beyond imaginable loss will be there. These are all tricks of the trade. In the beginning I was quite innocent about these things. At Mahalaxmi once I saw an ordinary Mill Worker cracked a jackpot I was surprised with my MBA is nothing before him. I asked him under basis he took a particular horse in the ticket. He said with little respect for me Saheb gambling me basis keesis kahan aatha hai ji Lav bolega tho lana hi padega ! He taught me many things in races. I made friendship with him we made many Jackpot jointly. He never used to bet in races. ONLY he used to Jackpot ticket only. He used to watch the races only. He had a very good habit. Later he told me that he is having friends and relatives working for a particular stable. Here I learnt that Racing is NOT 100% Honest.Once you know then things will take different shape.

If you have regular income if you allot small percentage then where is the question of losing mortgaging selling gold jewellery. All these things happen if you go beyond certain level. You can not see the WIND but you can only see its effects. Similarly at the Race course when the announcer says "The horses are getting in such an such horse is bolted and another horse is just getting in " you can see how people swarm at the counter for tickets how people are almost begging with the Book Makers to accept their money ! Have you seen ? I am quite sure you might have seen it ! These things happen because they are all caught by the evil forces prevailing at the course making them to lose their consciousness temporarily. If you realize then you can escape with limited budget you can enjoy.If you take start to finish attempt First Race to Last Race then you will lose everything. I honestly confess it is to easy to say but it is extremely difficult to practice !! It took nearly one complete season for me to get over this effect. Once I realize I started practicing Reading SUNDAR KHAND and Vishnu Sahasranaman etc., NOT TAKING TOO MUCH MONEY with me while going to Races with limited budget following a particular Trainer or Owner not bothering about other races with persistent effect. I have overcome. I do not go to all Centre Races I have limited interest either with Bangalore/Pune or Kolkatta only. During our younger days MAM was there most of his horses used to win even 80 paise also still you could make little money. Even Khaitans Horses with Aslam Khader astride used to win plenty of Races. We had a chance to make money. Today it is bit difficult. Openly I confess. You can only Bank Dr.Vijay Mallaya/Suleiman Attollahi or Cyrus Poonawalla or Dhunjibhai. I stopped calculating analysing long long ago. Just follow the winning people only !

When I was working in Bombay I used to give 75% of my salary to my Mrs and balance 25% only I used to indulge in Racing. I do not go to movies I do not have any other hobby like alcohol drinking etc., I do not watch TV also other than tv News Item. These things can not be taught but one must learn himself.

ON THE WHOLE i agree RACING IS AN EVIL BUT EITHER BY FAULT OR FATE IF YOU GET IN then you have to use your means to get accustomed and your efficiency comes in converting your enemy as a friend. Or one must quit like your good self. I honestly confess it is very difficult for ordinary people to get de-addicted
Because the Evil Satanic Force is very powerful you need persistant effort to leave it.

Sorry Sir I have absolutely nothing against your good self once again I apologize to you if I have hurt you in any way knowingly or unknowingly.

Wishing you all the best

ayyarnet

ayyarnet

@ Shaps

Thank you for finding genuineness in my report. It's true that my wife stood as solid as a rock behind me, believing in my abilities to bounce back in life and, of course, cursing me for my penchant for racing so long. I know only level-minded people like you will agree with me that making money in horse racing is like making a thread out of sand. I don't advocate others to follow my path, but I certainly don't want it to be a case of too late for others. The point of no-return is racing is known very late, like a cancer, and that's what worries me.

@ Srinivas

I made a similar confession as a rejoinder to another post in this same platform a year or two before. (I remember friends like Mr Raghavan responding to it). When you decide to confess, what's there to hide anything? After all, my intentions are clear. I see many of my friends in Chennai, Bengaluru and Mysuru still ringing me up for a few hundreds and thousands after losing everything in racing and held up in hotel rooms, unable to clear the bills. This should definitely stop, and it can stop only with the final resolve. If we ask a punter to 'restrict' his bets that is quite meaningless, and only next to impossible.

@ STV, Chennai

Thank you for your compliments on my race exit. I beg to differ only on one point that a proper strategy (as described by you) can help a punter stand in good stead. You don't know how many strategies I had evolved, but every time you pull a rabbit from your hat, they pull out more surprises to leave you in the lurch. You also run contrary in your post when you say that you reserve only 20% of your total stakes for a day for racing and keep the remaining 80% for other recreational activities like card playing. You also say that daily you play not more than two Rs.2,000 bets. It means what's your daily investment for recreation alone?

@ Golden Girl

Yes, I have made an earnest attempt to portray the pathetic life of an average punter. I know how many families have broken due to problems arising out of racing. There are many families where wife and children suffer so much for no fault of theirs, and the villain husband - the racegoer - continues to live in illusion. I had seen the extreme end of it and it's true that my wife helped me recover myself from the verge of a certain collapse. I am quite sincere to her in all manners, offering her complete mental peace at home now. My three daughters are also growing up fast in an excellent homely atmosphere and, believe me, I am now in a position to meet all their requirements. Earlier, the same money used to be deposited with the bookies!

@ Ayyarnet

Your words of wisdom fails to impress me in any manner. I'm sorry to say this and not intending to hurt you in any manner Sir. You seem to be having a lot of experience in racing and, therefore, it's evident to me that your balance sheet must be reflecting a poor picture. I have seen at least a hundred well-to-do cases like you, who adopt so many techniques to steer clear of all the dangers in racing. But not a single person has told me that he is happy into racing. But how come you make a such claim, I wonder! Maybe, you're smart enough to identify the doosras (even that you must have identified after draining out a huge sum) but no one really knows when they happen. That's where we go wrong. I never wanted to mortgage my property or belongings, or borrow me. But racing made me to do. It has been forcing many other gentlemen to do so. Now, after having quit racing, I don't take a single rupee from anyone, nor I am pushed to such a dire need anymore. As a journalist, I have got sufficient opportunities to closely move with people like Pesi, Byramji, MAM and many others. But in which way those relationships can come to your rescue? They are professionals, and will remain so. Let's not blame them even if they hoodwink us through doosras and theesras because racing is for that.

@ Kiran

Very interesting to learn about other forms of gambling like Casino from your post. It appears you enjoy life to a set pattern and that's good.

@ Raj

May I request you not to abuse anyone through this forum as everyone undergo their own share of distress and depression after coming to racing. Ayyarnet is no exception!

@ Raghavan

"Abhava Vairagya, Smashana Vairagya and Prasava Vairagya". I have been reading anything that you write in these columns with a lot of admiration. Why because they make sense somewhere and in some form. I have also opposed you on a few occasions but that is only a matter of principle. While I'm never afraid to call a spade a spade, I also do not think twice to seek apologies the moment I realize I am on the wrong side. Yes, I want to set an example for all those who wish to change guards, and go back to normal life. I will continue to read your posts (and wrestle if needed!)

Very sad to hear such stories. Still people all over the world lose money in gambling whether racing, cards, lotteries, tambola, cock fight, bull fight, casinos, gum ball machines etc etc. In UK when they advertise they say gamble responsibly. In Australia one can see women gambling irresponsibly in races and look pathetic at the end of the day and drunk in railway stations. It happens all over the world everyday. Psychologists now make money to get addicted de addicted. Two days back I read someone has created a beta app called Wyse (free) where you can talk anonymously all your heartaches. It is like a chat bot. No comebacks assured.

Alt the end of the Bangalore season such stories come out every time. Maybe many stories remain unwritten or untold. My sympathies to such souls.

@Small still poor punter,

Glad to know that you are a man with strong will power.

Abhava Vairagya, Smashana vairagya and Prasava vairagya.

A man will be at his eloquent best while giving sermons on simple living. The obvious thing is he is too poor and has made a virtue out of necessity. Let some money come in his direction - all his preaching will stop.

A man paying last respect to the departed relative at a crematorium will speak philosophically about the sure and certain destination of every individual. But, his pious talk will be lasting till he is inside that crematorium. The moment he comes out of that compound, it is business as usual to him.

A lady experiencing severe pains during delivery, will vow that there should be no more night shows/ morning shows. That mindset will vanish the moment a baby is born.

But, you have proved that an erstwhile gambler can be a permanent ex-gambler. My heartiest greetings.

@Ayyarnet,

First thing : I do not believe any punter has ever won back his earlier losses and has reached the profit zone.

So, you backed the horses ridden by some of the top jockeys, trained by big names in the industry, and also was waiting for an opportunity to encash on the doosras etc and has moved to the plus zone.

If betting and winning is so simple, then practically every punter would have been owning 40*60 site at posh localities. I know at least a dozen who once owned a house but were forced to sell that. One very close friend has indeed sold his house at a throwaway price because, to his bad luck, there was a big slump in the real estate market and the his creditors were not ready to give him any extra time.

Even if what you say is true, it would have been better had you opened a separate (new) topic on that wherein you could have proudly spoken about your heroics.

SSPP has stated that after losing big, he stopped betting and today has found peace and economic stability. My 1000 salutes to him.

Certainly there was no need to compare the smart-still-poor-punter with the lady dancer who faulted the stage to hide her incompetence.

@ayyarnet

An arrogant head strong like you could never be in profit in racing since 20 years. Ur joke of the year.

dear floks betting is addiction may be its horses are casino state of mind never ever think u can make money in gambling its bull shit gambling should be u r week end past time not u r profession i saw many poeple in casino in singapore literally lose life time fortune i used to visit ruby room where minium bet is 5000 sing dollar what i say any gambling know u r limits ans enjoy the game to let out u r stress in work donk make it u r work my good friend once told me in telugu indulo dabbu sampasdistamani namite addi nee pathanamiki theli mettu so lose what u can effort

Dear Smart still poor punter:

I am sorry to hear your story. Whoever comes to Racing will have to face losing in one way or other. It is a part of the Game and you should have known it before you enter the course.

A lady who does not know how to dance found fault with the stage. Truly applicable to to you. First of all you have to understand the concepts involved.
We also lost in lakhs in the beginning when we entered in Racing. But then breast beating and owing to leaving racing only displays our cowardliness. Fortunately during our younger days things were bit different we recovered our loss but also made little money by following owners, trainers and jockeys like V.Shinde, Jagdish, Aslam Khader and B.Prakash. Few Foreign jockeys were also.

Without betting there will be no glamour and thrill and only Trainers and owners will be present at course.

I agree that todays situation is really very bad in racing. But nobody compel you to play beyond your limit. Selling, mortgaging etc., is embracing poverty.
Poor planning without applying your own brain trusting some one without having your strategies and understanding post race analysis why you have lost and how. If you have made a systematic study probably you would not have come to this level.

20 years before once in a Poona Race Leading and bit reputed Trainer placed 2 horses in the same race one with prominent jockey and the other with an ordinary but capable jockey. Horse with prominent jockey was a favorite but lost the race and the Horse with an ordinary jockey neglected by the punters won at 10 to one odds. Here as usual like everyone I too lost money. After second thought I have noted down in a diary whenever a Trainer or owner puts 2 horses in the same race there is a chance of manipulation irrespective of the ability or status of the Jockey the Horse with higher odds will have a chance to win. This I took it as a Lesson. Afterwards so many instances were repeated and I have made little money. So my initial loss was turned out to be a blessing in diguise. I used await for such chances and appreciate the manipulation because we made money ! These people will always play the same trick. Instead of finding fault or shouting at the trainer if you have been bit intelligent you could have made money in racing. Similarly I used to follow Trainer Byramjee and Owner MAM horses and so on the whole Racing provided an excellent avenue for revenue for me. Although I used to convey my views in manipulation etc., but if you could detect manipulation out of your experience then you are a good player. In sport playing counts how you play etc., nobody bothers only the end result counts. OK

Many time I have posted here in the race course there exists an evil force like our Forces of Gravity waiting to capture any one whoever enters. Main target for this force is make you to lose. Many people did not accept my views. But once you arr AWARE of this EVIL FORCE then there is a chance you can escape from its clutches. For example if some one trying pick pocket your purse if you realize then that the thief will runaway and if you did not pay attention then you would have lost your purse. Same thing applicable to Racing also.

Now that you have decided to quit we wish you happy time sans betting.

Best regards to all.

ayyarnet

Dear Smart-Now-Not-So-Poor-Punter,

Very well and timely written para (on Independence Day)about your real life Independence from races.What you have written is absolute truth about the life of an average rail bird.
Without elaborating any further,I can only say that you are blessed to have such a Better Half,who stayed with you through thick and thin,all those difficult years of your life.She helped you in stop punting and helped you to travel the path of recovery.Racing is a bottomless pitch,where you can not ever see again,the money that has fallen.
Now the only way to show your gratitude to your wife is that you try to be her Best Half.This you can do by not going to races again.After all one requires more money in the sunset of his life.So,Be Good and and do not commit the mistake of going back to this field.This much you owe to your Better Half and your family.
G.G.

Dear SSPP,
Your outspoken narration of racing life and pitfalls compels me
to write a few lines about my own experiences and beliefs.
I entered racing as 25 years old youth and now nearly 5 decades have passed by.Only during the last 5-10 years my active participation has decreased.I am one of the very few who would say that racing has not hurt me.[It is a different matter that I lost a fortune elsewhere[at cards in fraudulent and lousy club/s.].Most of what all you suffered due to gambling ,I also suffered.Without narrating all that I would like to say that I am alright now.
Looking back on the reasons for racing not hurting me,I can tell you that it is not my expertise at racing in any form but a desire to spend most of what I could spare on a day on recreation[?]at the cards table than at racing.For example, if I had 1000 with me,I would spend 200 at the course and spend[lose,is the correct word] the balance


at the cards table.The reason was simple;I always thought with the money on hand ,more time could be spent joyfully[?]at the table than at racing.
I,for one,believe that Destiny plays a great part in lives .At the same time,one should not put the blame on that unseen factor and proceed to live in a way that hurts him.The sooner you learn the lessons and give up what does not suit you or harms you,the better.
As most people,I started punting in 10s and 20 s;then 100 and 200;then 500;at present 2000.Over the years I have formulated a policy of :_
1.not more than 2 bets of 2k each.
2.Avoiding all investments in tote pools like jp,treble,f\c,tanala,etc.
This has stood me in good stead.

Now that you have by God's grace bid good bye to racing,these things do not apply to you.I wish you well.At the same time,it is my belief,that ,somewhere.someone will be benefited by my ways and experiences.
thank you
STV.
ps.let not anyone get the impression that cards is better than racing;I have simply shared my experiences.

excellent confession i have heard in the recent past and hats off to you for staying away from racing.i wish u all the best for you and your family for the years to come.

Sir,

First and foremost I salute you for your frank and true perspective of your horse racing year's.

What you write is very true for 99% of race punter's, who will till their end will never agree that they lost a whole lot of money in this sport.

It show's that only the punter's are always looser's and the winners are the clubs, bookies and the owners.

In today's racing, it has become still very much worse, as manipulations and race fixing is at it's nadir, without caring a hoot for any action from the great officials.

Hope this write-up your's open the eye's of many, many in this sport and they save their's and their families lives.

Your better half also deserves a praise in this story of your's.

Best Wishes for a happy life without the sport called horse racing.