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Pick A Winners Bangaluru Race 17 Aug 2017

By Krish | 16-Aug-2017
1 BAN 1 OPTIMISTICAPPROACH 2 SET TO WIN

2 BAN 1 KAROD PATI(Day's Best) 5 MOONLIGHT LOVE

3 BAN 2 GAME AGAIN 1 TOP BRASS

4 BAN 2 ROYAL SERENITY 5 REFERENCE

5 BAN 9 CHEERLEADER 3 LIFE AWAITS

6 BAN 2 LEGACY DREAM 8 TORSORO

7 BAN 5 DESERT FALCON 9 SO MI DAR

8 BAN 1 DONT TRUST ANYONE 7 LOVE FOR LIFE

Good Luck for Big Win!
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Svkraju said ...

19-Aug-2017
@ dear MAD MAX


THANKS FOR SUGGESTION AND CLARIFICATION

Mad Max said ...

19-Aug-2017
@ SVKR
Every Clubs (Except Delhi) provide these information and it is available at the time of Declaration of Jockeys. See Declaration page. When a horse goes from Steel to Aluminium or Aluminium to Steel it is easily noticeable in Race Card. However, Mysore Race Club and Bangalore Race club specially notify the minute changes in shoeing on their OFFICIAL RACE CARD (available on the website). I am not talking about their REGULAR RACE CARD which is published in Color and Jockey Jersey Colors. On the top right of the Regular Race Card they provide a link (OFFICIAL RELEASE), open that link and see the detailed Race Card with details of shoes declared in previous races. At the bottom of the each races they specifically mention latest shoes and other equipment changes. Otherwise you can also check present and previous shoe changes in the card itself.

For Mumbai and Pune races, you open www.Bolrace.com and check their web version "Race Card" (IT IS NOT AVAILABLE IN THE PRINT VERSION) there you can find the change of shoes. For example in the printed version of Bol Race Card, 2-2 St.Andrews is running with TS,DRB today, if you open the web version race card, you can find the trainer has discarded BFBS today. Whereas Brynhill has retained BFBS it. Again on 3-1 Oracle the trainer has added BFBS. So exactly the trainer only knows what equipments and accessories are needed for a particular horse. Our reading is on experience thus success rate is little above 50% only. Otherwise you need inside information.

HRC and RCTC also publishes the declaration, but you have to maintain a record otherwise you have to check previous declarations available on their website.

Svkraju said ...

18-Aug-2017
@ MAD MAX


NO CLUB IS PUBLISHING THE CHANGE OF SHOE WITHIN DIFFERENT A SHOES EXCEPT BTC.

CAN YOU GIVE ME ANY IDEA WHERE TO FIND SHOE CHANGES FROM RPA TO HA OR DIFFERENT A SHOE FOR ALL CENTRES.

Anto said ...

18-Aug-2017
@ Mad max

Thanks for the explanation

Mad Max said ...

18-Aug-2017
@ Anto
Yes. Actually I have forgotten that. Remember I have written on this subject around one month back on Rahanullah Khan's horse Champagne. From the first run in Bangalore he was sporting high heel shoes, whereas it registered few wins in Mumbai without any high heels. Even you add high heels on both fore legs, or both hind legs and ask to run on home ground itself, the horse need not perform like before. It suddenly halts the winning form. Sometime trainer add high heels to a particular leg, say, right fore leg or left fore leg, left hind leg, or right hind leg. These type of corrections needed for 3 year olds and Mygrator won last fortnight for example. Normally this is done on non-winners. Sometime - rarely - trainers do this on older horses also due wear and tear situations. Really such corrections needed or not, that the trainers can only say. Some trainers are habitual offenders in shoeing, they try Both Fore High Heels one day, the other day they will try Both Hind High Heels, Another run, the horse will run with All Four High Heels. This is simply to fool the public. Trainers know what equipments and accessories needed for his horse. There are some trainers, like Lagad experiment with multiple equipments on horses. One day when he wants to gamble, he will remove all and the horse will win. There are so many trainers like him in India.

SHOEING:
LA DONA won thrice so far and every time it sported Aluminium shoes. I have gone through all its runs and subsequent racing incidents and I have not seen any worry to change its shoeing pattern. In the Super Mile it sported RUBBER PAD on Both Fore Legs and it finished 4th behind Serjeant At Arms. I watched the Videos no discomfort noticed. So when it sported same Rubber Pad again In The Stewards Trophy I have given it the OK marks. However, the trainer added HIGH HEEL on its RIGHT HIND LEG - a unnecessary balancing act cautioned me. He knew his horse will run as favourite and I seriously doubt he used Heel on its Right Hind leg deliberately to discomfort the horse. RR Byramji and Darius Byramji has done it several times. So I have serious doubt about its chances. Even if reasonable wear and tear occurred to La Dona's legs during the last few months, and the High Heel was necessitated on this day, no horse can step down distance and win a sprint straight away. I did not want to create a controversy hence kept silent on that day.

Anto said ...

18-Aug-2017
@ Mad Max

As you said can you please reveal the reasons why LA DONA lost

Thanks

Anto

Krisna said ...

18-Aug-2017
RAM
sorry to say not one will take you seriously here..

Svkraju said ...

18-Aug-2017
@ MAD MAX.


CONGRATS ONCE AGAIN. IF TIME PERMITS PLEASE TRY TO POST YOUR JP ONE HOUR BEFORE THE FIRST RACE STARTS. DONT WORRY THAT OUR FRIENDS MAY SHARE YOUR WINNING AMOUNT. JUST FOR FUN.

ALL THE BEST FOR NEXT JP.

Mad Max said ...

18-Aug-2017
@ SVKR
There is a typographical mistake in the statement. Investment is Rs.720/-

Ram said ...

17-Aug-2017
Good Day guys,
May be my last post regarding horses and people.
To just summarize,I'm a Cardiologist and my wife a Psychiatrist. When I discussed with my wife about yesterdays post and the intricacies, ugly side of racing, still people continuing with it in the hope and belief of earning and making out profit, or just for the kick it provides.
She explained two issues.
one,
horse racing, a sport it may be called, but involving betting, so it is a form of gambling, until sometime back was treated as an impulse control disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder.
Of late the current guidelines brings it under addiction disorder.
Two,
these people are risk taking, sensation seeking and action driven.
As long as the quality of life of people involved in gambling doesnot suffer, it makes a healthy social entertainment. once our family, friends, finance are compromised for the sake of gambling, it becomes an addiction.
Guys out of real concern I request you all to be responsible.
please do take care, as I know this industry from the inside.
My cup of tea is my hospital and patients.
Thank you all,
RAM

Mad Max said ...

17-Aug-2017
@ SKVR

Thanks. As you predicted I got it again.
Three Tickets >30% = 4,570/- each (13,710/-)
One Ticket > 70% = 74,648/-
Grand Total before TDS: 88,358/- less: 30/- = 88,328/-
Subject to 30% Deduction.
Total Investment: Rs. 640/-

1st: 4-5-8-12
2nd: 3-8
3rd: 8
4th: 1-7-9
5th: 1-4-6

Due to GST I have completely avoided playing Tote Win, Place etc.
Now I regularly take Jackpot Tickets, Investment well below 1000/-

Krish said ...

17-Aug-2017
@shaps,

Great smart decision today. I hope next day on wards you will be seen at track side.

Krisna said ...

17-Aug-2017


@ MAD MAX ....Congrats for ABadran
was it the allowance of the jockey that played the key role?

Svkraju said ...

17-Aug-2017
@ MAD MAX


GOOD CHOICES LADY MAJESTIC AND ACE BADRAN. MAY BE ANOTHER JP FOR YOU TODAY ALSO.


ALL THE BEST

Sai said ...

17-Aug-2017
2-7 perfect prince place

Sai said ...

17-Aug-2017
2-4 mystical shadow win,place
5-2ladona win,cheerleader place
7-1animalking win,8sanbernardino shp,place

Bugsbunny said ...

17-Aug-2017
Hi

The following selection is for JP Hunters

1st Leg - I've got clout/Royal serenity- Play each way I've got clout
2nd Leg - Zephir/Ayrton/La Donna- Play Zephir and Ayrton Each way.
3rd Leg - Mystic Music/Torosoro/Gabino- Play Gabino place.
4th Leg - Panama/ SAN BERNARDINO/Desert Falcon - One Horse Panama
5th Leg - Zafrina/Angelic love/Dont Trust Anyone ( Mr.Ketan Mehta signals Dont Trust anyone will runaway) .

Stalingrad said ...

17-Aug-2017
2: 8-Reverberating
3: 1-Top Brass
4: 5- Sea King
6: 2-Legacy Dream
7: 1-Animal King
Al the best.. Hedge al bets with coverung second horse pool, after al its racing...

Abhay...pune said ...

17-Aug-2017
MY SELECTIONS

R NO-1-H NO-2-SET TO WIN

R NO-2-H NO-5-MOONLIGHT LOVE

R NO-3-H NO-1-TOP BRASS

R NO-4-H NO-3-WAR ENVOY

R NO-5-H NO-3-LIFE AWAITS

R NO-6-H NO-8-TORSORO

R NO-7-H NO-1-ANIMAL KING

R NO-8-H NO-1-DONT TRUST ANY ONE

DAYS BEST-ANIMAL KING

BEST OF LUCK...

Bkd said ...

17-Aug-2017
Hello Everybody,

Here are My SELECTIONS for BANGALORE Races of 17th Aug’17...Last Day.

Race 1 Win#3-TEVODA

Race 2 Win#8-REVERBERTING

Race 3 Win#1-TOP BRASS

Race 4 Win#5-REFERENCE

Race 5 Win#3-LIFE AWAITS

Race 6 Win#8-TORSORO (MY DAY'S BEST)

Race 7 Win#8-SAN BERNARDINO

Race 8 Win#2-KASAULI
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JACKPOT POOL RACES : 4,5,6,7 & 8

2,5 / 3,4 / 8 / 7,8 / 1,2.....Rs 160
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That's it! Play safe.

Thanks & Regards,
BKD

Rakesh Menon said ...

17-Aug-2017
1-6 MANSUETUDE
2-1 KAROD PATI
3-2 GAME AGAIN
4-8 SEAKING DB
5-6 AYRTON
6-8 TORSORO
7-1 ANIMAL KING
8-2 KASUALI

Coolscorpian1981 said ...

17-Aug-2017
2-1 , 6-5, 7-1 wp

Stalingrad said ...

17-Aug-2017
2: 8-Reverberating
3: 1-Top Brass
4: 5- Sea King
6: 2-Legacy Dream
7: 1-Animal King
Al the best.. Hedge al bets with coverung second horse pool, after al its racing...

Jerry said ...

17-Aug-2017
Race 3. Top Brass should win as it ran as favourite against Black Swan who went on to win after promotion.

Race 4. Discount Reference and Sea King as both are running after being Gelded, these first time Geldings seldom win. That leaves us with War Envoy and I've got Clout. IGC is better off today and even beaten War Envoy in race no 165. The joker in the pack is the bottom weighted Cherie Amour. If, IGC slips then Cherie Amour will win!!

Race 5. Race is between 1 & 2. 2 can win fresh from Spell. Otherwise, 1 is better placed with App and on timiing than 3.

Race 6. Torosoro is in Cl 2 by default and suspect. Watch Out. Multi App is next best.

Cheers and watch the Weights and Colour.

Race Selection said ...

17-Aug-2017
1) 2 SET TO WIN, 4 AMAZONITE, 6 MANSUETUDE
2) 8 REVERBERATING, 5 MOONLIGHT LOVE, 7 PERFECT PRINCE
3) 1 TOP BRASS, 7 LADY MAJESTIC, 9 PERFECT STRIDE
4) 12 CHERIE AMOUR, 3 WAR ENVOY, 8 SEA KING
5) 3 LIFE AWAITS, 2 LA DONA, 9 CHEERLEADER
6) 8 TORSORO, 5 GABINO, 1 MICHAELA
7) 1 ANIMAL KING, 5 DESERT FALCON, 8 SAN BERNARDINO
8) 2 KASAULI, 4 INDIAN BRAHMOS, 10 ANGELIC LOVE

Rk said ...

17-Aug-2017
Race 1- 6,4,1
Race 2- 2,7,8
Race 3- 7,1,5
Race 4- 1,8,3
Race 5- 2,4,6
Race 6- 3,2,1
Race 7- 5,8,7
Race 8- 6,1,2
Good luck

Marshall Court said ...

17-Aug-2017
@ RAM,

My sincere request to you is to keep away from races, as you realised. We still need some time to understand this and to realise the same way.

Its my humble request to you to leave us like this, or you help us by giving some good horses(winners) with your experience, let it be a drama or politics, it doesn't matter.

Sincere apologies, if i am wrong.

Rk said ...

17-Aug-2017
Race 1 - 6,4,1
Race 2-. 2,7,8
Race 3- 7,1,5
Race 4-. 1,8,3
Race 5-. 2,4,6
Race 6-. 3,2,1
Race 7-. 5,8,7
Race 8-. 6,1,2

Aditya Singh said ...

17-Aug-2017
Dear IRians,

Got to sit with the race card after nearly 6 months...find three horses good in their respective fields...

Antananarivo
Torsoro
Animal King

Godspeed!!

Dseetharamarao said ...

17-Aug-2017
dear friends,

4TH RACE SN0.8 SEA KING 3YO

5TH RACE SN0.2 LA DONA 4YO

6TH RACE SN0.8 TORSORO 3YO

RAO

Dharmesh said ...

17-Aug-2017
Bangalore 17/8/2017 Concluding day

2.00 #2 SET TO WIN

2.30 #8 REVERBERATING
#3 PRECIOUS MOMENTS - keep an eye

3.00 #1 TOP BRASS

3.30 #8 SEA KING
#4 I'VE GOT CLOUT - Don't Ignore

4.00 #4 ANTANANARIVO

4.30 #8 TORSORO

5.00 #1 ANIMAL KING

5.30 #1 DONT TRUST ANYONE
#12 BUCKPASSER JUNIOR - upset

DAYS BEST : ANIMAL KING

BEST OF LUCK.

Nilban said ...

17-Aug-2017
my picks for the Day are

Race 1 mansuetude
Race 2 perfect prince
Race 3 top brass
Race 4 reference
Race 5 la dona
Race 6 back of beyond
Race 7 so mi dar
Race 8 kasauli

DAY'S BEST reference

Vinodrocks said ...

17-Aug-2017
Bangalore Selections 17-08-2017

1)1-6-MANSUETUDE
2)2-7-PERFECT PRINCE
3)3-3-CLASSIC SPEED-Longer Odds Place, 3-12-May Upset
4)4-4-I'VE GOT CLOUT
5)5-8-ACE BADRAAN
6)6-7-BACK OF BEYOND
7)7-9-SO MI DAR,7-6-FANTASTIC APP-Should Win
8)8-12-BUCKPASSER JUNIOR-Start to Finish Attempt

Good Luck!!!!!

Mad Max said ...

17-Aug-2017
@ Raj
It is OK I am unable to spot a winner other than this horse. However I find reasons to omit this horse from my Jackpot.

If my assessment is true LA DONA may lose this race, provided some other horse take a big leap today. It is possible. I will reveal my reasons only after the races if I proved correct. Otherwise you can blame me for misleading.

My Selections:
R-1>
No.2 "Set to Win" should be the legitimate favourite and the horse to beat on breeding, but Indiarace is showing No.1 Optimisticapproach as 90/100 favourite? I wont believe this.

R-2>
Very very open race. I leave this one.

R-3>
Another race with full of unfit horses. LADY MAJESTIC I like.

R-4>
SEA KING, REFERENCE, I'VE GOT CLOUT are the front runners. My preferences in that order.

R-5>
LAY: LA DONA (NIGHT ODDS: 90/100)
LIFE AWAITS-WIN
ACE BADRAAN-UPSET

R-6>
TOROROSO-WIN
LEGACY DREAM-NEXT BEST

R-7>
ANIMAL KING-WIN
PANAMA-NEXT BEST
SO MI DAR-CHUPA RUSTUM

R-8>
LAY: LOVE FOR LIFE (NIGHT ODDS: 16/10)

Libero said ...

17-Aug-2017
Hi friends

My choices for the day

1st Race

between 2 Set to win & 4 Amazonite

2nd Race

7 Perfect Prince each way

3rd Race

7 Lady Majestic each way

4th Race

3 War Envoy can win now, also note 12 Cherie Amour if jockey handles well can upset all

5th Race

1 Top Spot or the long pending 8 Ace Badraan can upset this race

6th Race

8 Torsoro or 5 Gabino

7th Race

bit open race, many contenders, 5 Desert Falcon each way or big upset by 3 Good Time indeed

8th Race

6 Reczai or 11 Extremely Dangerous

Regards & all the best

Santhosh

Stop Fooling Punter said ...

17-Aug-2017
Pray tell me how la dona can win in heavy going?

What has the jockey got to do it with it when the trainers has ruined this classic filly.

The sporting owners should change over to some other top trainer.

Anushree said ...

17-Aug-2017
1—WIN-4.AMAZONITE
PL-3.TEVODA//2.AMAZONITE
EX—5-3-2-611087

2—WIN-1.KAROD PATI
PL-8.REVERBERATING//5.MOONLIGHT LOVE
EX—1-8-5-93426

3—WIN-3.CLASSIC SPEED--upset
PL-1.TOP BRASS//7.LADY MAJESTIC
EX—3-1-7-102859

4—WIN-8.SEA KING
PL-1.DAGOBERT//2.ROYAL SERENITY
EX—8-1-23-79356

5—WIN-2.LA DONA
PL-3.LIFE AWAITS//4.ANTANANARIVO
EX—2-3-4-67985

6—WIN-3.MYSTIC MUSIC
PL-2.LEGACY DREAM//8.TORSORO
EX—3-2-81-18465

7—WIN-1.ANIMAL KING
PL-8.SAN BERNARDINO//5.DESERT FALCON
EX—1-8-57-57693

8—WIN-1.DONT TRUST ANYONE
PL-2.KASAULI//6.RECZAI
EX—1-2-64-46795

Againstodds said ...

17-Aug-2017

1 2 Set To Win

2 8 Reverberating

3 7 Lady Majestic

4 8 Sea King

5 3 Life Awaits

6 8 Torsoro

7 7 Panama/ 1 Animal King

8 2 Kasauli

Svkraju said ...

17-Aug-2017
MY CHOICES ARE


1R MANSUETUDE DAYS BEST

2R PRECIOUS MOMENTS EW

3R TOP BRASS VERY GOOD

4R WAR ENVOY VS PERFECT LEGACY

5R LA DONA VERY GOOD

6R MICHELA VS MULTI APP VS TOROSO

7R SAN BERNADINO EW

8R DONT TRUST ANY ONE VS CROZIET

Ram said ...

17-Aug-2017
Good Morning Everyone,
Out of curiosity to see what had happened to my selections, watched the races.
As an ex owner, friend of many trainers in some centers, my sincere request to my fellow horsetalk members and punters is,
QUIT RACING GUYS.
It was just cooked up drama neatly screen played and exhibited at the expense of public. I see no difference between them and politicians.
I'm happy I'm not a part of this anymore.
people who wish to continue,
ALL THE BEST
RAM.

Shaps said ...

17-Aug-2017
Krish,

I judged myself as the winner at Bangalore races today.

Reason, I'm going to skip this day, this racing at this center. Do not want to throw my money on these greedy connections, whose single aim is to snatch punter's money, all with the help of the ever-ready crooked jockey's.
Merit racing is going to hell.

MONEY SAVED IS MONEY EARNED.

Hence, I pick myself as a winner.

Good luck to all.

Soothsayer said ...

17-Aug-2017
Jockey
8-3 syed imran (-4)
8-8 nazerul alam (-3)
Please give Banglore weather updates.

Raj said ...

17-Aug-2017
It's a disgrace that LaDona 5(2) is running in this fit for nothing company. It's too classy to be running here. It should win start to finish without whip drawn out.If Srinath looses this race he should announce his retirement.

Abrar said ...

17-Aug-2017
1-6 mansuetude
2-9 appys glamour
el matador upset
3-1 top brass
4-4 i have got clout
5-3 life awaits
6-1 michaela
7-1 animal king

Racebro said ...

16-Aug-2017
Hi All,

1-4 AMAZONITE - By Burden of Proof, Ran couple of 1400m in maiden races, was up with the front runner till 1200m and then slightly fell back, ran in much better company. Should win easily.

2-1 KAROD PATI - Had three consistent runs over 1400m this season, YS rode him to victory in a mile race last year. This is the ideal race for him. Appy's Glamour is good enough for Shp/Pl.

3-1 TOP BRASS - Ran a close 3rd to Black Swan over 1200m. I don't see any opposition to this one. Tracking well with S John.

4-8 SEA KING - Ran in Colts Champion Stakes G1 behind Castle Bridge. Tracking well with S John and also the only 3yr old in the race. Should win well, this will be a quick double for S John.

5-3 LIFE AWAITS - Tracking extremely well under YS, Ran well to finish a close 5th to Castle Key. LA Dona has never won over 1200m.

6-1 MICHAELA - By Roderic O'Connor, Came charging in to finish a close 4th to Baracchus over 1400m. An extra 200m will be to its liking. Torsoro will be travelling a mile for the first time. My Days Best.

7-5 DESERT FALCON - By Footstepinthesand, Beaten by Heroine and Bora Bora two good horses. I hope there is not another one?

8-1 DONT TRUST ANYONE - Came down in class after a 3-3/4L 8th with timings of 1:13:49, carrying top weight in this class in not an issue with YS in the saddle.

BEST BETS: KAROD PATI - SEA KING - MICHAELA - DONT TRUST ANYONE

ALL THE BEST!

Ashwa Shashi said ...

16-Aug-2017
Race(1)- Set to win for win
Race(5)- La Dona will win
D.Byramji and Y.S Srinath owner PPM EDWARDS Double

Jwc said ...

16-Aug-2017
1-4
2-9
3-7
4-3
5-9
6-5
7-1
8-2

God Is Great said ...

16-Aug-2017
LADONA
PLY it there is nothing to lose for this horse