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The Red Chieftain Cup !

By Mad Max | 28-Aug-2017
SHORTLISTED:

1. CELTIC QUEEN
2. ON THE FIRE
5. CHAMPION BULL
8. LA ROMANCE

1. CELTIC QUEEN: Projected Time: 73.36
Twice won in Winter with AAAA on all four legs. This summer three runs, removed Aluminium shoes from both hind legs. WHY? Top weight is negative, secondly Trainer is doing suspicious things, hence ignored.

2. ON THE FIRE: Projected Time 73.21
Twice fought with CELTIC QUEEN, and once again indirectly in a Div-1 & Div-2 race. Proved better than CELTIC QUEEN. Should be there in contention.

5. CHAMPION BULL: Projected Time 73.32
Easy winner in Winter, subsequently castrated. Added Rubber Pads on both Fore Legs, seems Trainer is undecided or not having confidence on his ward. Ignored.

8. LA ROMANCE: Projected Time 72.90
EASY WINNER in Winter concluding day with Steel Plates. Now running with Aluminium Shoes. Summered in Bangalore, where ran with better class animals. This summer in Malakpet R.No.45, ran bare on both hind legs. Now shoes reinstated on all four legs. Assigned to Apprentice claiming allowance. Real Contender.

FINAL CHOICE:
8-LA ROMANCE-WIN
2-ON THE FIRE-PLACE
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22 Replies

Mad Max said ...

29-Aug-2017
@ No Nonsense
I checked and found it astonishingly opposite to what I described earlier. Not only Fillies Stakes race, even in all previous five wins - 2 in Bangalore Summer, 2 in Hyderabad Winter, and 1 in Hyderabad this season on 7th August LADY IN LACE won without Shoes on Hind Legs. How this happened I dont know? I am totally upset seeing these changes now. It is OK with LA RAMANCE. Before the race I examined it properly and it was exactly as per my earlier explanation. Is it possible after this topic I raised, any changes made in records by...? Really I am in dark. I am really getting mad !

No Nonsense said ...

29-Aug-2017
@ madmax,

First of all would love to congratulate you on your methods and winner picking on a regular basis, but don't get too carried away, that is when elementary mistakes start to creep in.

In this post you have mentioned that Lady in Lace ran without shoes on her hind legs in the race before the fillies championship stakes and ran with aluminium shoes on all four legs in the Fillies. If you notice she ran without shes on her hind legs even in the Fillies.

7th Race: THE DECCAN FILLIES CHAMPIONSHIP STAKES (GRADE III) (ABOUT) 1600 METRES 04:10 PM
- SweepStakes TERMS.
For Fillies, 3 year olds only (Foaled in 2014)
Weights: 56 kgs.
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1 FASHION HIGH 56.0 ( 50) P.S.Chouhan 3 AR AR A A
2 JUNEAU 56.0 ( 52) G Naresh 2 AH AH A A
3 LADY IN LACE 56.0 ( 71) Y.S.Srinath 4 AR AR X X
4 MAHATEJI 56.0 ( 45) P.Trevor 6 AR AR A A
5 MANIFOLD 56.0 ( 75) Neeraj Rawal 1 AR AR A A
6 MERITOCRACY 56.0 ( 52) Akshay Kumar 5 AR AR A A
X STOLEN KIS ISSWEET 56.0 ( -) NOT DECLARED TO - - - - -
START

Mad Max said ...

29-Aug-2017
@ Fido Dido
@ Jayakumar

For Bangalore races I am giving the links below:
https://www.bangaloreraces.com/BTC_Archives.aspx
1. Choose the Year, Month and click on the DATE on the Calendar, thereafter at the bottom of that page click on DECLARATIONS. You will get the Declaration page. Check the Shoes on that particular date. For latest shoeing details see latest Declaration or Race Card by choosing the Calendar from the Home Page of www.bangaloreraces.com.

Prospectus, Entries, Final Entries, Handicaps Acceptances, Declarations, Race Card, Ratings, Results, Incidents, Photos, Videos (Given in Green colours)

For Hyderabad races follow below Links:
www.hydraces.com/downloads_racingfiles.php

Select the season, download Date-wise Declaration and open and check the shoeing pattern of a particular date.

For Kolkata races follow below links:
www.rctconline.com/RacingUpdate/racingactivity.php?this=31&himg=82

Choose the month, year and click on SHOW button, then choose date and click on the Declaration links on the right side of the Calendar.

For RWITC follow the links below:
www.rwitc.com/archives.php

For Mysore Race Club follow below links:
www.mysoreraceclub.com/Archives.aspx

NOTE:
Earlier also I furnished these details in HT. In case in future someone ask for these information, please help them, dont wait for me.

Fido Dido said ...

29-Aug-2017
@Mad Max

Sir your answer to Jaykumar I have understood as to where to find the changes about equipment change,but how do we find out the previous run as to what the changes were made by the trainer about each and every horse. Grateful if you could share or tell in brief.

Thanks

Jerry said ...

29-Aug-2017
Dear Mad Max, Congratulations for the excellent, brilliant, analysis and observations. In all my years of experience I've never been so precise as I've never gone into the declarations at centers. Its one for the notebook.

Keep up the goood work!!!

In retrospect and with all due respect to Lady in Lace, don't U think Manifold with its background was made to loose, either by Trainer/connections or jockey - someone has the answer.
Pertinent Questions: Why did Pesi/connections enter the all conquering horse it this Center?
Were they scared of its potential in Pune or they knew something was not right with it?
Why was the horse taken to the front when he always comes from the back?
Why were the bookies eating the favourite wholeheartedly, did they know something we didn't??? (At least, 1 Cr was cast here in Kolkata, think of the rest of India and abroad)
Something fishy went down yesterday and thats not Right. The solution is PRE AND POST RACE INTERVIEWS WITH ALL CONCERNED.

Jayakumar said ...

28-Aug-2017
Thank you so much for your kind reply Mad Max Sir, just one final questions where do we get all these information regarding rubber band on forelegs and other equipments because in Vel or Bol, complete information is not sharing by them.

Pradeep said ...

28-Aug-2017
@ Mad Max,
Congrats for a great tipping with just explaination. Keep it up.
BTW the one posting under Pradeep said is not mine.

Mad Max said ...

28-Aug-2017
@ Jayakumar

LA ROMANCE & LADY IN LACE - both are previous winners with Aluminium shoes on all four legs. In the Declaration page of the respective club's website you may find it like... A A A A, it means, Left Fore Leg, Right Fore Leg, Left Hind Leg, Right Hind Leg respectively. When they are easy winners, there is no need to make changes in shoes. However if the trainer wants to give "just runs" in subsequent runs to put the horses in active work, trainer may add unwanted equipments and/or accessories so that the horse give eye wash runs.

LA ROMANCE and LADY IN LACE thereafter ran HIND LEGS without shoes or say BARE (means both hind legs bare), how to spot it, check the declaration page, you will find, A A X X - it means Left Hind and Right Hind legs are BARE...(Bare foot or Nanga Pav). LADY IN LACE was such a classy horse, despite having changed to HIND BARE she won last race in smart timings. That is the reason the trainer pitched LIL in Fillies Trials. LA ROMANCE and LADY IN LACE was the fastest animals in their respective field today, not only that, they were running with all their regular shoes.

Mad Max said ...

28-Aug-2017
If you have not done try this next time !

After doing all those speed rating, track study etc, have you ever thought what the trainer think of that particular horse. Horses are prepared with a particular race in view. Hence we should analyze the psyche of the trainer vicariously.

I said about Champion Bull, an easy winner in Winter, subsequently castrated. Was that a useful decision to castrate a colt that already registered an easy victory. All castrate operation need not be successful. All castrated horses need not improve suddenly. Other questions in the mind is the trainer adding Rubber Pads on Fore Legs, such acts create doubts in the minds of the analyzer, in reality what the trainer is going to do? There you need to analyze the psyche of the trainer vicariously.

This is essential to examine the relations of conscious and unconscious arguments in the mind of the trainer and bringing repressed or uninhibited uncertainties that conflicts into the alert mind thereby visualizing the ground realities. Think next time !

Jayakumar said ...

28-Aug-2017
Hats off to you Sir again you proved that you are the best tipster in the country, just one clarification I need from you, you said Laromance in race no 45 it ran bare on both hind legs. Now shoes reinstated on all four legs, as per my knowledge Laromance ran with aluminum shoes in race no 45, is it anything like they can't put aluminum shoes for all 4 legs? Same with Lady in lace last race also in race no 52 it won with aluminum now today also won with same aluminum, where is the diff I didn't understand sir Where these information will be available

Please advise

Sntiyago said ...

28-Aug-2017
Hey M M

Great Choice

UR back man.....

I am big fan of ur selections....keep posting bro....

Vishnu G said ...

28-Aug-2017
Mad Max
hats off to you..

Sudhakar Goud said ...

28-Aug-2017
Dear M.M.

Superrrrrrrrr Selection ( LA ROMANCE )

Pradeep said ...

28-Aug-2017

Posting this before the race. Mr.Mad Max let's presume if La Romance looses and finishes 2nd or 3rd or 4th and for the record No.1 or 5 wins then what would be your timing. Can you highlight on which run you have calculates your timings.

Venu Chowdary said ...

28-Aug-2017
On the fire

Mad Max said ...

28-Aug-2017
@ Bharath Raj
Let's see. For heaven's sake dont take the name of duds like Ashka Ashka.

@ Heaven Can Wait

Whoever do that - will win only one race.
Yesterday Trevor on Allora done that. Showing one win. From next race he put the bottoms of his pants inside the boot. Won only one race - NEW ENGLAND.

Sandesh was in jolly mood and put his bottoms outside his boot. Won only one race BUNTING.

Please note it is not PANTS OVER THE BOOT. PANTS' BOTTOMS over the boot.

Bkd said ...

28-Aug-2017
It's between the 2 top weighted animals only, since they have already been classified in Cl-IV. Rest are on the way.

I fancy ON THE FIRE to prevail over CELTIC QUEEN, since he had got the measure of this filly in an earlier race.

CHAMPION BULL is the 'layer's delight' and punter's grave!

Bharath Raj said ...

28-Aug-2017
According to me ,La Romance can't beat On the Fire.
Race is between Champion Bull and Ice on Fire.
Even ,Ashka Ashka Ashka can upset the field.

Final choice : Champion Bull (normal bet).

Srinivasan said ...

28-Aug-2017
It is CHAMPION BULL

Heaven Can Wait said ...

28-Aug-2017
Dear Mad Max

Today in the 1st race please watch the paddock carefully. I am sure you will see a jockey other than B R Kumar has his pants over his boot.

Gopika said ...

28-Aug-2017
Any one guide me about online indian horserace betting web ?

today my bet 1st race 3 desert moon each way

Stop Fooling Punter said ...

28-Aug-2017
C.BUll will just smash this field Its win before Gelded stands out. working well.

O.T. fire ,C. queen will fight for minor places