Jimmy Karanjia
I 1000% agree with ur views, pesi is doin daylight robbery everytime.

For those who think LIL is better horse than Manifold i pitty on them, it was clearly hooked the horse has never run start to finish, next time when Manifold runs it will hack the field, my advice to all never touch On-money favs in Hyderabad,Mysore,Kolkata these centers r controlled by bookie.

@madmax

so you feel yourself as MODI of racing then first cleanse the racing from all MALPRACTICES...

No more arguments till Manifold & Ladyin lace race together again

dood ka dood paani ka pani hojayega

i have patience to wait , if you dont have i cant help???

@ Yadi
Why you are exposing yourself at all times ?
Your knowledge is Zero in racing and other Horse Talkers are at least 50 years ahead of you. Like America is 50 years ahead of Pakistan.

Do you know anything about what is happening in Stud Farms. Usha Stud or Mehra Stud or Poonawallas or Green Forest are selling their best foals to big owners in India. Those unsold ones are kept for yourself. For Alindair there was no buyers, so same case for Manifold. Alindair won several classic all the luck was with the Stud Farm Owner. How can you say Manifold's price is 1 Crore when no one wanted to purchase that horse? Are you crazy to say the price of an unsold horse is Rs 1 Crore? Are you in horse racing or in Real Estate Market? Nahi Chalega tera propaganda here ! Stay off from me ! AAP man Kejriwal always taunt our PM Modi to get famous. Where is Modi where is Kejri ?

@ Yadi
Kal kis ne dekha...?
Kya patha thum rahe na rahe
hum rahe na rahe?
Ab ki socho tum kya ho !

@MAD Max

your arrogance shows how ignorant you are about the other factors in racing!!!

there is much more in racing then timing and dynamic ratings which most punters know & follow it

you will know in the due course of time when MANIFOLD beats LadyinLace by distance

i am not opposing you but the way racing going on doing injustice to best horses for the sake of money( best example *BESAFE)

compare the BREEDS of

MANIFOLD( over 1cr cost)
MULTIDIMENSIONAL (IRE) / DHAAWIAH(USA)

*Manifold's dam Dhaawiah won once from three starts in the Godolphin colours and was purchased for 57,000 gns.

*Dhaawiah is by Elusive Quality as is Khalila, another mare imported by Usha Stud who cost considerably much more.

&

LADY IN LACE( nearly 10 laks)
CHINESE WHISPER(IRE) / SEA SPRAY

if you go down the damn & sire line of LIL, below are the list of their offsprings

best of them till date fewdollers more (best upto 1400M),so not produced any offspring above 1400m

1 DARING DYNAMITE
2 FEW DOLLARS MORE
3 LADY IN LACE
4 MIYARSPRINCESS
5 TERI ADAH
6 TRUE PEARL

BY THE WAY today in kolkata your choice Windser forest wont WIN!!

AFTERALL PESI IS THE CHELA OF BYRAMJI THE DOOSRA MASTER

PESI LOSES 9 OUT OF TEN RACES WHEN HE HAS SINGLE MOUNT

HE WILL REPEAT THE SAME DIRTY GAME IN HYD TODAY ON WINDSOR FOREST

@ Yadi
You are coming from Zero Zone.
Horse Talkers are not aware of your expertise in horseracing.
So "Yadi, Yeda ben kar Peda mat kha".

(1) Read Mr.Ram Iyer's latest comments on Star Nijinsky,
(2) Aster Rose was a set back horse that was the reason it lost to Star Nijinsky. Otherwise....
(3) Perhaps Aster Rose was hooked to give way for Ameeta Mehra's "Doosara" Star Nijinsky. In India everywhere - all changu mangu trainers' are sending out doosaras.
(4) Your statement - "it only happens in Hyderabad" is displayed out of your FRUSTRATION? It is evident from your statement that you are a regular big better on "HALF MONEY FAVOURITES". Big Owners and trainers target you type of punters, so that they can use your money for feeding the horses. Understand your folly, or quit at once.
(5) WHY YOU SHOW YOUR IRE ON HRC or the people of HYDERABAD...? Do you think THEY are WORST than the people of the state you belong..? Stop accusing and move on !
(6) Against on-money favourite GERMANICUS I picked BOOKER JONES. I explained the reasons why Germanicus should lose before the race. STILL people like you were mad after the Owners and Trainer. First you people commit mistakes, make wrong decisions and throw away your money on false favourites, then accuse ONE AND ALL in the WORLD.
(7) Why you are still in racecourse...?

Mr Karanjia has said it all.

Though had predicted the Lady to win, still feel it is high time the racing public forcibly put's a stop to these so called doosras etc, by demanding the clubs and TAOI to introduce a rule / clause that very clearly states that no owner or trainer can be allowed to have more than one horse in any particular race.Just a beginning.

Pesi the darling boy of Indian horse racing has himself started this. All because of differences among the two groups in RWITC. He has made many millioniers and also now-a-days made many beggars.

Public cannot and should not allow this kind of day-light robbery to continue without a whisper of protest. Protest's are not sufficient, for now a day's clubs care a damn for public writings in these sites. They along with the bookies just grab the punters money, to survive and bloat their bank a/c.. All these wrong activities are allowed with the blessings of the great stewards of each and every club.

Want be suprised if the clubs have an money-sharing under-standing with the bookies for this kind of lootings.

The last two to three months , bookies made what they could not make in two to three years.

It is a very difficult task for the punter's. But then who will bell the CAT ?

My dear friend,

Havent you understood the trainers intentions and antiques by now? Manifold was probably taken to Hyderabad three to four days before the race for what? To lose, obviously. Why was she taken there and ran at 45 paisa odds? Why couldnt she just run the Gool Poonawala Million in Pune and then the Pune derby. She may not have taken the travel well and her work ended there much before the race, but all this was intentional.

Why was Germanicus taken to Hyderabad after running a hard race and losing to Columbiana in Pune? To lose. he lost as a hot favourite. Germanicus belongs to the same connections.

This so-called champion trainer has been playing these dirty games for the past couple of years now. See the ding dong with Mathaiyus and Captain Morgan.When they run together, every alternate time the horse with the higher odds wins. Why?

Recently Adam and Denny Crane in Hyderabad. The horse with the higher odds won. In the past, The Unicorn and Mertylewood. Mrs. Patmore and Temerity in 1000 Guineas and Oaks. Temerity could have won the Indian Derby but the same connections were keen on Serjeant at Arms, who unfortunately did not stay, gifting away the Derby to Hall of Famer, who run like a duddess in the Invitation and subsequently.

Watch what will happen between Mathaiyus and Temerity now in Pune in the St. Legers?

Fact is, this blatant daylight robbery is being committed by the culprits for the past many months now, but because of their high profile owners and connections, there is no inquiry or action initiated.

God Bless Horse Racing!

Cheers,

Jimmy

@madmax

you are really mad about LILace!!!

lady in lace is a cheap horse , which will be beaten hallow by manifold in derby

you dont have answers for few questions raised by me

***Its a repeat screen play of aster rose loosing to starninjsky

aster rose& manifold( ameetha mehra)
starnijsky& linlace(srinath)

it only happens at HYDERABAD Centre that worlds best horse also looses here because of the EVIL Forces controlling the money flow in the racing.

dont have words to say the worst mindset of *ammetamehra & *shroff towards the sport

How many classic winners of HYD have done well afterwards.

One was the derby winner trained by Mangolkaar second was star ningisky no where after wards.

It is not L.I.L won but Manifold lost as indicated by the list of failed odds money favs.of pessi

I doubt they will meet AGAIN in the near future. If they do so L.I.L. will only see the tail of manifold .

If they both run 100 times on level terms on any track in India, LADY IN LACE will BEAT MANIFOLD every time. Here few people are making all that unnecessary hype before the race because of Pesi's stature as a champion trainer in India. I dont understand what is the logic a 50 paise horse should win every time. Manifold beaten Romantic star in Race No.83 by 1/2 length under suspicious circumstances, and Neeraj Rawal who ridden Manifold has taken the ground of Romantic Star, instead Windsor Forest (Pesi's Doosara) ridden by Suraj taken the objection against Romantic Star. It is to be noted Suraj's objection was thrown out, whereas Neeraj was fined Rs 3000 for not maintaining a straight course. MANIFOLD was lucky to win that race from a sparingly raced Romantic Star.

Thereafter Manifold won the Bangalore Derby (again under suspicious circumstances) from Castlebridge by 1/2 length again. Trevor has taken Castle Bridge (FAVOURITE) START TO FINISH and lost the race in the last 5 metres. I have already reported the drama thereafter in the paddock, where an unsatisfied Bharath Singh was seen complaining to one and all assembled there. That race was simply manipulated in favour of Manifold because of inter-connected connections, as is the practice of Pesi sending our Doosaras repeatedly since Demonetization. Manifold's price was around 5/1 that is the reason that race was gifted.

People are talking rubbish because the Center is Hyderabad and the trainer and owner are not biggies.

Jerry I agree with you.

L.I.L won in default as Manifold was totally unfit for a graded race.
You are right never has this filly in her entire racing career gone to the front right from the word go.
it is sad to see this owner who does not bet a penny fall to tricks of this trainer.

Please correct me, Is this not the same owner who had bought a one eyed filly and got Lakhs in stake money alone

all those gloating that L.I.L. is the best miler yes may be in HYD only.

Please see comments of Raju post race his first classic win!

people who are supporting lady in lace win don't have BASICS of racing

***Its a repeat screen play of aster rose loosing to starninjsky

compare the BREEDS of

MANIFOLD( over 1cr cost)
MULTIDIMENSIONAL (IRE) / DHAAWIAH(USA)

&

LADY IN LACE( nearly 10 laks)
CHINESE WHISPER(IRE) / SEA SPRAY

then say

if you go down the damn & sire line of LIL, below are the list of their offsprings

best of them till date fewdollers more (best upto 1400M),so not produced any offspring above 1400m

1 DARING DYNAMITE
2 FEW DOLLARS MORE
3 LADY IN LACE
4 MIYARSPRINCESS
5 TERI ADAH
6 TRUE PEARL

it only happens at HYDERABAD Centre that worlds best horse also looses here because of the EVIL Forces controlling the money flow in the racing.

the list is endless

1. MUROI 35/100

2. ASTER ROSE 70/100

3. germanicus 90/100

4. manifold 50/100

the list continues....

our system making the BEST horses scapegoats for the sake of money

dont have words to say the worst mindset of *ammetamehra & *shroff towards the sport