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By Mad Max | 04-Sep-2017
This year the Colts Championship Stakes is wide open.
Something about the shortlisted horses !
1. ANIMAL KING
Come out of the Maidens with a marvellous win, Official handicapper penalised 9 Kg that itself shows it will go further in class. This is the dark'un in this race. However, he is running first time in a competitive field, lacks experience, Preparation bad. IGNORED
4. MAURITANIA
Good second to SANA in Bangalore, clocked smart timings, working well, should be in the final fight.
6. PERFECT STAR
Basis his run in Bangalore Colts Trials he is a contender. He is the main contender.
7. PREVALENT FORCE
Won easy, same rider repeating, good pedigree, a contender. I think Prince Caspian is slightly better today due to weight advantage. Hence IGNORED.
8. PRINCE CASPIAN
Dr.MAM camp has two horses in this race, Perfect Star and Prince Caspian. I consider he is a contender as the DOOSARA from the owners.
10. TIMELESS
Won in a poor set and the timings clocked was poor. Hence IGNORED.
11.TUTANKHAMUN
For those thinking last win was ordinary, I wish to remind the official handicapper penalised him 9 kgs, so dont write off. He ran behind Perfect Star in the Colts Trials in Bangalore vis-a-vis that run PERFECT STAR is slightly better.
FINAL FOUR (IN ANY ORDER)
8. PRINCE CASPIAN
6. PERFECT STAR
11. TUTANKHAMUN
4. MAURITANIA
FINAL CHOICE:
7- PRINCE CASPIAN-UPSET
6. PERFECT STAR-If not Doosara
11. TUTANKHAMUN-Place Certainty
4. MAURITANIA-On Board.
Your opinion please.
Something about the shortlisted horses !
1. ANIMAL KING
Come out of the Maidens with a marvellous win, Official handicapper penalised 9 Kg that itself shows it will go further in class. This is the dark'un in this race. However, he is running first time in a competitive field, lacks experience, Preparation bad. IGNORED
4. MAURITANIA
Good second to SANA in Bangalore, clocked smart timings, working well, should be in the final fight.
6. PERFECT STAR
Basis his run in Bangalore Colts Trials he is a contender. He is the main contender.
7. PREVALENT FORCE
Won easy, same rider repeating, good pedigree, a contender. I think Prince Caspian is slightly better today due to weight advantage. Hence IGNORED.
8. PRINCE CASPIAN
Dr.MAM camp has two horses in this race, Perfect Star and Prince Caspian. I consider he is a contender as the DOOSARA from the owners.
10. TIMELESS
Won in a poor set and the timings clocked was poor. Hence IGNORED.
11.TUTANKHAMUN
For those thinking last win was ordinary, I wish to remind the official handicapper penalised him 9 kgs, so dont write off. He ran behind Perfect Star in the Colts Trials in Bangalore vis-a-vis that run PERFECT STAR is slightly better.
FINAL FOUR (IN ANY ORDER)
8. PRINCE CASPIAN
6. PERFECT STAR
11. TUTANKHAMUN
4. MAURITANIA
FINAL CHOICE:
7- PRINCE CASPIAN-UPSET
6. PERFECT STAR-If not Doosara
11. TUTANKHAMUN-Place Certainty
4. MAURITANIA-On Board.
Your opinion please.
29 Replies
Naveenkumar.c said ...
06-Sep-2017
how can neeraj win when suraj is trying
Kk Lanka said ...
05-Sep-2017
@Ramesh babu,
PERFECT STAR got an interference from TIMELESS in the last few meters. If you see the video again, when Neeraj was pushing hard, TIMELESS took his ground. In fact, I expected another objection from Neeraj on IMRAN KHAN. Anyways, it was a close verdict for 3rd place. My system failed but not miserably as you stated.
It was my mistake yesterday that I underestimated 'TIMELESS'. After all, every day there is a new learning at races. There needs a continual improvement for any system to be consistent. Will improve my system to more perfection...
@Hunter,
Tutankhamen is a Dosage weak horse. He went under pressure when asked to do the final task yesterday. I do not foresee him winning any classic races.
Let's wait and watch.
@Darklord,
Good to know that you played big confidently. I will be posting my analysis for good races provided I can uncover a pattern from history.
@Raj,
you can get Dosage Profile from www.pedigreequery.com. DP, DI and CD are not new concepts and there are many Gurus in HT who mastered them.
Thanks & Regards,
KK Lanka
PERFECT STAR got an interference from TIMELESS in the last few meters. If you see the video again, when Neeraj was pushing hard, TIMELESS took his ground. In fact, I expected another objection from Neeraj on IMRAN KHAN. Anyways, it was a close verdict for 3rd place. My system failed but not miserably as you stated.
It was my mistake yesterday that I underestimated 'TIMELESS'. After all, every day there is a new learning at races. There needs a continual improvement for any system to be consistent. Will improve my system to more perfection...
@Hunter,
Tutankhamen is a Dosage weak horse. He went under pressure when asked to do the final task yesterday. I do not foresee him winning any classic races.
Let's wait and watch.
@Darklord,
Good to know that you played big confidently. I will be posting my analysis for good races provided I can uncover a pattern from history.
@Raj,
you can get Dosage Profile from www.pedigreequery.com. DP, DI and CD are not new concepts and there are many Gurus in HT who mastered them.
Thanks & Regards,
KK Lanka
K Ramesh Babu said ...
05-Sep-2017
KK Lanka,
According to your theory Perfect star should have been also placed. What went wrong? why did your theory fail miserably in terms of Perfect star being placed?
Let us know your post mortum on this.
According to your theory Perfect star should have been also placed. What went wrong? why did your theory fail miserably in terms of Perfect star being placed?
Let us know your post mortum on this.
Hunter said ...
04-Sep-2017
And those who doubted his staying prowess were proven wrong by Tutankhamen..
Jayakumar said ...
04-Sep-2017
Madmax sir your analysis is always right but I still don't understand why u ignored Prevalent force which has beaten prince Caspian hands down with ease in last run instead of that u selected prince Caspian because of weight factor but if you would have seen prevelant force last run vedio you would have selected prevalent force for sure
Mad Max said ...
04-Sep-2017
@ SFP
I erred in the Colts Championship. So what? If I picked Prince Caspian there was a reason. Prince had beaten LADY IN LACE earlier in Penalty Class in the same track.
Do you think I am carrying a Magic Wand to solve each and every puzzle. How easily you labelled me a Class-V tipster by easily forgetting last week's LADY IN LACE (3-1/2) in the Deccan Fillies Championship Stakes (Gr-3), where all the successful tipsters chosen Manifold at 30 paise. How you forgot Nizam's Gold Cup (Gr-2) where Booker Jones won at 5/1, where all other tipsters chosen Germanicus on-money favourite? There are so many examples go and check HT archives. I used to pick and analyse only the Feature event and top class event of the day. As usual you tipped against me in all races an faced rap music . Why you people are carrying the evil's eye? Have you any noteworthy contribution in HT than spreading bad omen and negative energy?
I erred in the Colts Championship. So what? If I picked Prince Caspian there was a reason. Prince had beaten LADY IN LACE earlier in Penalty Class in the same track.
Do you think I am carrying a Magic Wand to solve each and every puzzle. How easily you labelled me a Class-V tipster by easily forgetting last week's LADY IN LACE (3-1/2) in the Deccan Fillies Championship Stakes (Gr-3), where all the successful tipsters chosen Manifold at 30 paise. How you forgot Nizam's Gold Cup (Gr-2) where Booker Jones won at 5/1, where all other tipsters chosen Germanicus on-money favourite? There are so many examples go and check HT archives. I used to pick and analyse only the Feature event and top class event of the day. As usual you tipped against me in all races an faced rap music . Why you people are carrying the evil's eye? Have you any noteworthy contribution in HT than spreading bad omen and negative energy?
Ayyarnet said ...
04-Sep-2017Friends:
Few trainers train their horses secretly keeping classic races only in their mind only. They surprise all at the event. Having acquired the DNA from his Father Darius Byramji also one of them. Very often we neglect their horses in our calculations. Indeed surprising that how PREVALENT FORCE became favorite. May be news might have leaked .
ayyarnet
Darklord said ...
04-Sep-2017
Madmax you said Svkraj was surpriser but it looks like K K Lanka is the biggest dark horse in horsetalk recently his performance was super. Regardless of method as long as your bet reaches people all will be happy. Thank you so much KK Lanka sir i went big on this seeing your last time performance.
Please continue like whenever you have good horse, keep hidden like you is best in horse talk. Because there are two big people here always fight for toys, Good luck all for Kol.
Please continue like whenever you have good horse, keep hidden like you is best in horse talk. Because there are two big people here always fight for toys, Good luck all for Kol.
Raj said ...
04-Sep-2017
@ kk Lanka
Outstanding prediction.
What is this dosage method?????? Have you stated this earlier?which date??
Pl reprint the same or tell where to search?DP, DI?
Wonder why I have over looked this.
Txs in advance.
Outstanding prediction.
What is this dosage method?????? Have you stated this earlier?which date??
Pl reprint the same or tell where to search?DP, DI?
Wonder why I have over looked this.
Txs in advance.
Stop Fooling Punter said ...
04-Sep-2017
Congrats M.M your ist choice did not finish last but beat 2 horses.
Many gave the right choice but classic and graded races are not your cup of tea,
You are doing well in other races why worry here.
Hopefully I should have got 2to 1 as had sent money earlier.
If one draws a graph the Late MAM's stable is really touching Nadir. Horse after horse ruined . P star no where near the three placed horses.
Sad
Many gave the right choice but classic and graded races are not your cup of tea,
You are doing well in other races why worry here.
Hopefully I should have got 2to 1 as had sent money earlier.
If one draws a graph the Late MAM's stable is really touching Nadir. Horse after horse ruined . P star no where near the three placed horses.
Sad
Punter Sergeant Major said ...
04-Sep-2017
PREVALENT FORCE prevails objection rightly upheld, if not interfered would have won by 2 lenghts
Should win Hyd Derby also
Should win Hyd Derby also
Starone said ...
04-Sep-2017
wake up.... MAURITANIA will simply smash the field into bits
Raj said ...
04-Sep-2017
I had posted this in general Hyd selections.
Posting this again in right thread.
The race boils down to just 4 horses.
1) Kambaku
2) Perfect star
3) Timeless
4) Tutankhaman
Joker being Roosevelt.
Kambaku and perfect star and Timeless ,Tutan have run1600 race and won convincingly.Except Tutan.
Perfect star has run in better company. It's best being behind castle bridge in Bangalore colt trail.
Lost a bcz of interference in Ruffinas win .Atleast it could have ended 2nd on that day ahead of Tutan.Run in Bangalore Derby was ok.
Timeless is yet to prove its mettle in classics.
Kambaku is tracking well and it's previous win was effortless.Had plenty in reserve.
Tutankhaman can never sustain 1600. It is fit for 1400.Forget it's win @ Chennai.It was a fluke.
Going by timings and co it has run I feel The race narrows to Perfect star and Kambaku.
When one has to choose jockey I would any day choose Neeraj over John.
PS and Neeraj has slight advantage over Kambaku and John.
One can not play 2 horses. Its meaningless.
So finally
Perfect star WIN
Kambaku for shp/Thp/place.
Tutan shp/Thp/place.
Timeless THP/place.
Roosevelt the joker better not spring surprise.
Posting this again in right thread.
The race boils down to just 4 horses.
1) Kambaku
2) Perfect star
3) Timeless
4) Tutankhaman
Joker being Roosevelt.
Kambaku and perfect star and Timeless ,Tutan have run1600 race and won convincingly.Except Tutan.
Perfect star has run in better company. It's best being behind castle bridge in Bangalore colt trail.
Lost a bcz of interference in Ruffinas win .Atleast it could have ended 2nd on that day ahead of Tutan.Run in Bangalore Derby was ok.
Timeless is yet to prove its mettle in classics.
Kambaku is tracking well and it's previous win was effortless.Had plenty in reserve.
Tutankhaman can never sustain 1600. It is fit for 1400.Forget it's win @ Chennai.It was a fluke.
Going by timings and co it has run I feel The race narrows to Perfect star and Kambaku.
When one has to choose jockey I would any day choose Neeraj over John.
PS and Neeraj has slight advantage over Kambaku and John.
One can not play 2 horses. Its meaningless.
So finally
Perfect star WIN
Kambaku for shp/Thp/place.
Tutan shp/Thp/place.
Timeless THP/place.
Roosevelt the joker better not spring surprise.
Chanakya said ...
04-Sep-2017
Perfect Star should win...
Svkraju said ...
04-Sep-2017
@ DEAR FRIENDS
NO CHANCE FOR ANY LOCAL HORSE GETTING EVEN THIRD PLACE.
MY CHOICES ARE PERFECT STAR OR PREVALENT FORCE.
ALL THE BEST
NO CHANCE FOR ANY LOCAL HORSE GETTING EVEN THIRD PLACE.
MY CHOICES ARE PERFECT STAR OR PREVALENT FORCE.
ALL THE BEST
Kumar_blore said ...
04-Sep-2017
Kambaku has been improving steadily,though a front runner it's breed suggest it should do well over long distances.its win in its last run over present distance beating pinyada giving weights suggest the horse is improving every run.since Tutankhamun is little suspect over this distance,I feel kambaku should do well here.prevalent force, perfect star & timeless looks better than the rest of runners.
Best wishes
Best wishes
Bharath Raj said ...
04-Sep-2017
Prevalent Force ,one horse race.
All the best
All the best
Mad Max said ...
04-Sep-2017
@ SFP
At least TWICE you made same statement.
You are still there ! Why not quit racing so far ?
At least TWICE you made same statement.
You are still there ! Why not quit racing so far ?
Starone said ...
04-Sep-2017
MAURITANIA.... should easily win from Tutankhamun ; Highly Acclaimed will be third...
not sighted ...Prevalent force..& field...
not sighted ...Prevalent force..& field...
Kk Lanka said ...
04-Sep-2017
After analyzing the 9 renewals of this race, I am sharing my results of this wide open race.
I am using 'Narrowing the field using Dosage' method.
Per my analysis of the 9 renewals,
1) 7 out of 9 winners had more than 16 points or more in their DP
- Eliminate ANIMAL KING, KAMBAKU, ROOSEVELT, TIMELESS and TUTANKHAMUN.
2) 8 out of 9 winners had DI more than 1.0
- Eliminate OPTIMUS COMMANDER
3) 6 out of 9 winners had CD less than 0.68
- Eliminate ANIMAL KING, KAMBAKU, MAURITANIA, ROOSEVELT, TIMELESS and
TUTANKHAMUN
4) 7 out of 9 winners were out-station horses
- Eliminate HIGHLY ACCLAIMED and PRINCE CASPIAN
Left out horses from above 4 steps - PERFECT STAR and PREVALENT FORCE
Based on the appearance of Chef-De-Race horses in their 2nd/3rd generation pedigree charts, I feel PREVALENT FORCE is far far superior than PERFECT STAR.
With a run benefit on this track, PREVALENT FORCE cannot get beat today.
I feel PERFECT STAR is a PLACE certainty.
All the best.
I am using 'Narrowing the field using Dosage' method.
Per my analysis of the 9 renewals,
1) 7 out of 9 winners had more than 16 points or more in their DP
- Eliminate ANIMAL KING, KAMBAKU, ROOSEVELT, TIMELESS and TUTANKHAMUN.
2) 8 out of 9 winners had DI more than 1.0
- Eliminate OPTIMUS COMMANDER
3) 6 out of 9 winners had CD less than 0.68
- Eliminate ANIMAL KING, KAMBAKU, MAURITANIA, ROOSEVELT, TIMELESS and
TUTANKHAMUN
4) 7 out of 9 winners were out-station horses
- Eliminate HIGHLY ACCLAIMED and PRINCE CASPIAN
Left out horses from above 4 steps - PERFECT STAR and PREVALENT FORCE
Based on the appearance of Chef-De-Race horses in their 2nd/3rd generation pedigree charts, I feel PREVALENT FORCE is far far superior than PERFECT STAR.
With a run benefit on this track, PREVALENT FORCE cannot get beat today.
I feel PERFECT STAR is a PLACE certainty.
All the best.
Raviraj said ...
04-Sep-2017
Prince caspian wont finish in top 4. The likes of perfect star not suited for hyd. Tutankhanum beat class v horses in mysore. No chance here.
Vampsvenom said ...
04-Sep-2017
ALL HAVE TO BEAT PERFECT STAR TO GRAB COLTS CHAMPIONSHIP STAKES
FOLLOWED BY TUTANKHAMUN
REGARDS
VAMPSVNEOM
FOLLOWED BY TUTANKHAMUN
REGARDS
VAMPSVNEOM
Stop Fooling Punter said ...
04-Sep-2017
If horses like P Caspian win in such big races .it will be time for me to take a break from racing.
If a horse has beaten him blue in the last run just run just 2 kgs advantage cannot over shadow 3 lts!win that too easy win.
Mauritania , Perfect star ,P star and time less should be in the run.
My choice a hyd winner P. Force
If a horse has beaten him blue in the last run just run just 2 kgs advantage cannot over shadow 3 lts!win that too easy win.
Mauritania , Perfect star ,P star and time less should be in the run.
My choice a hyd winner P. Force
Mad Max said ...
04-Sep-2017
@ Cngowda
TIMELESS may (will) not finish on Board.
Sorry !
TIMELESS may (will) not finish on Board.
Sorry !
Pradeep said ...
04-Sep-2017
TIMELESS & PERFECT STAR to fight for win & followed up by TUTANKHAMUN & MAURITANIA.
Punter Sergeant Major said ...
04-Sep-2017TUTANKHAMUN best still 7 furloongs may not even place
PERFECT STAR no chance never touch MAM horses these days all run wrong disctance n never true on form
TIMELESS not here has beaten duds in pune last run
KAMBAKU won with ease beating good company horse to beat
PREVALENT FORCE classic pedegree last run too good may win if stays extra furlong
Between KAMBAKU n PREVALENT FORCE
Rahul71 said ...
04-Sep-2017
Mauritania is a good each way value bet. Also don't ignore the son of Power... Roosevelt. Short on experience but Pesi has taken him to Hyderabad so must be respected.
Race Selection said ...
04-Sep-2017
11. TUTANKHAMUN best horse but blood line says can stay upto 1400 mtrs.
10. TIMELESS is the horse to be beaten. Mr Mr Rajesh Monga will lift the cup.
10. TIMELESS is the horse to be beaten. Mr Mr Rajesh Monga will lift the cup.
Cngowda said ...
04-Sep-2017
My opinion is for colts stakes in my calculations is TIMELESS shoud win and smash the field
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