NAMCHA will win kolkatta 2000 guineas easily, the horse is in great present form, trainer Vijay Singh prepared very will.
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Svkraju said ...
11-Dec-2017
@ Dear ones MAD MAX and SFP
I request both please cool and calm even after the result. My strong feeling is SHAMAN should win it easily from HARTNELL.
all the best
Stop Fooling Punter said ...
09-Dec-2017
Any way it is all history as things chsnge
I like the way you have skipped the main issue .YOUR CHOICE OF WORDS POOR and pathetic.
This site is not meant to give moral lectures on racing but only the positive sides.So keep these things for your self and improve upon them.
It is equally funny you are not happy with Sandesh winning two races but lecture on his future results will be neagtive it is very funny. Are you an astrologer.?
Dh''bhoy have spent over 30 years in racing so do not think they will be a bit careful in choosing jockeys for their mounts.yet you negative mind set will not accept it.
BOL to your choices I hope you get some winners to help you get over your despondency.
Mad Max said ...
09-Dec-2017
@ SFP
First learn racing. It is my nature I caution my friends and enemies as well. I dont want any explanation you may be another TATA or BIRLA who can afford loses. And I know how much you have earned in the last sessions.. May I forward your selections chart for the last three months so that others will get an idea of your profit so far? So forget specifically targeting me.
And now little bit coaching:
1000 and 2000 Guineas are graded races, these races are held ahead of future classics at the parent and other centers. Trainers field their best horses in guineas and winners are prepared and targeted in future classics. Here Hartnel has already shown its stamina where RUFUS finished several lengths behind, hence the later cannot win, that is my guarantee.
THIS RACE IS BETWEEN HARTNELL & SHAMAN ONLY. For the benefit of a certain community, who follow 786, I recommend a good place bet on Shaman. First win it got 7kg penalty, second win 8kg penalty, third win attracted 6kg penalty. So Shaman's penalty so far is 7+8+6 kg penalties, this is an auspicious number so, the race will be between Hartnell and Shaman. If Hartnell fails Shamn will win. It is difficult for RUFUS to finish in place. For the third place any horse can come into the picture.
So Good Luck SFP !
Stop Fooling Punter said ...
09-Dec-2017
Why should I donate to charity really M.M you are the limit. Does the same charity give me money when I lose? Please do think before writing
Monsoon derbies are a joke with pathetic stake money.
See care fully it is a 1600 mtr race and not 2000 mtrs No doubt.Hartnel is a good horse and will be on board.Even IF I lose it is okay with me.
Hartnel came behind daffodils which ran no where in CHennai
Any way I am hefty plus in the last 5 sessions. unlike you have been a loser in the same period. So better concentrate on recouping your losses.
I agree with some somehow Shaman as per me is an unsound horse may win may not.
it is racing if I have to lose this race so be it.
Mad Max said ...
09-Dec-2017
@ SFP
Save your money and donate to any Charity/ or any needy person.
Hartnell beaten Rufus by 9 lengths in the Kol Derby, and you say Rufus winning this race?
Chancepedance said ...
08-Dec-2017
Winner should be either shamaan or Aaron the Baron. Cant see anyone else winning this race.
Stop Fooling Punter said ...
08-Dec-2017
I do not know now but way back in tHe 90s when I was in CAL,horses were quietly prepared in a track out side the course. not known if it still exists and allowed by the club.
Cal track works out do not give you the correct picture.
Me I find the most improved horse on the uptrend is Rufus. So an each way bet with 30 % Win and 70 % place bet.
Raj said ...
08-Dec-2017
@svkraju sir
I tried my best to give some chance to Shaman going through again.
Sorry I still feel it can't win.
Hartnell is what stands out.
Mad Max said ...
08-Dec-2017
@ Raj
NAMCHA wont even finish 3rd in this set. First of all understand in Kolkata horses are being prepared in OUTER SAND (OS) not in (ST). I have noted horses tracking in ST clock 'outstanding' timings but such horses fail in actual races. Horses work out in BTC Inner Sand also clock such timings, but fail to reproduce that timings in actual races. For speed rating purpose I add 4 seconds to Inner Sand timings to equal with Outer Sand timings (roughly). For Kolkata also I add 4 seconds with ST timings for for comparative purpose with Outer Sand timings. Meanwhile ask some one what is the meaning of ST ....(Is it any Tan track or Inner Sand...?)
@ SVK
HARTNELL is basically a handicap horse. In classics I dont know its utility. If it wins, then we all should appreciate the effort of - Rutherford Alford, actually he needed a Graded race badly. Definitely this horse will be in the first-2 finish. Hartnell is a Class-I prospect, it has finished 9 lengths ahead of RUFUS, and your SHAMAN is 1 point below RUFUS in official rating..., I mean they are coming from Class-III.
So, my choice is HARTNELL-WIN only.
Good wishes to Rutherford Alford in advance.
Svkraju said ...
08-Dec-2017
@ Dear RAJ
Please note that Hartnell cannot compare with SHAMAN. All your points doesnt have meaning to consider or select a horse.
The answers are
point [1] Shaman beaten a horse who finished close to the winner in Bng. derby.
point [2] Shaman ran with BNG horses not from MYSORE.
POINT [3] In that race it poorly [ AGREED ].
point [4] For any class horse 2 or 3 days rest is enough to roar.
point [5] Class horses can handle all the tracks.
point [6] Recently how many classics won by VIJAY SINGH?. The answer says minor.
All the best if still you want to go against SHAMAN. This my personnel opinion shared but not try to change anybodys opinion and not forcing to play my preference.
Boss said ...
08-Dec-2017
Aaron the baron one horse race paddy and David combination Will rock
Raj said ...
08-Dec-2017
@svkraju sir
1)Shaman has won so far in all medicore set.Non of the horses which shaman has beaten had made it to class 2.
2)Shaman's win at Mysore should be treated as B class center win.
3) It's run in Bangalore Derby was too pathetic when exposed amongst classy horses finishing last at some 71 lenths behind.
4)Shaman has been moved to Kolkotta during 1st week of December and yet to get over travel strain and yet to get Proper track work.
5)Without race benefit at Kolkotta 99% can't win calssic races.
6) Hartnell is stationed at kolkotta and already has proved it's class.
More ever it's trainer is Vijay Singh. This alone should tilt the scale.
Namcha is an upset chance bcz of track and John.John is like Trevor at Mumbai. You have to respect his mounts.
There are so many other factors one of them being a mind of mine own!!!! Which takes decision on it's own!!!! Which refuses to accept others fancy to prove it's superiority over other brains.It simply refuses my commands to listen.
After all we are all living in an computer animation high-tech matrix game neither winning or loosing actually.Our life is dream of some advanced AI life.
Sorry for making a simple Q of yours too complicated.
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Finally Shaman can never win 2000 G.
Hartnell is toooooo good.Namcha has a chance. I will play both balancing depending on odds.If I still loose I loose nothing bcz we are all in someone's game.
Good luck.
Chancepedance said ...
07-Dec-2017
some are opting Namcha over Shamaan. Let alone win i dont see how can this horse even finish on board? i even tried to tilt my laptop upside down but still i cant figure out how it can win. well if it does then good luck for those who are banking on it as they will certainly get good odds.
Svkraju said ...
07-Dec-2017
@ Dear RAJ
Can you give any reason that why SHAMAN CANT GET PLACE. SHAMAN is having better class than your choices. should win handsomely. PLACE IS 100%.
All the best to you.
Raj said ...
07-Dec-2017
It's st fight between Hartnell and Namcha.
Namchas track is Hard to believe.
It has never run 1600. Where as Hartnell looks a veteran.
It's a joke that Shaman can even take place.Running for the first time at Kolkata it needs exposure.Forget it.
If track had any meaning Namcha should prevail from Hartnell.
Zeddzzz. said ...
07-Dec-2017
Impossible Shaman Gets Beaten.
One Horse Race.
Bank Of England.
Athresh said ...
07-Dec-2017
Namcha has a good chance of winning second classic for the season
Azim said ...
07-Dec-2017
@ b.v.s.
NAMCHA is a good horse bit for the guineas it's doubtfull...this horse having late dash and good strong body but still he have to go a long way ..
There are far better horse runing there in Guineas that is Aaron the baron ,
Rufus, hartnell ,and shaman is also there...
I think son of setalight SHAMAN having and edge over this field ..
So my choice is SHAMAN...
God Is Great said ...
07-Dec-2017
Calcutta 2000 guineas will be lift by SHAMAN from SET ALIGHT with P TREVOR expected to ride.
This horse will show his true form in upcoming 2000guineas as well as derby...
Pradeep said ...
06-Dec-2017
It's between the three- SHAMAN, RUFUS & HARTNELL. Let the jockeys be declared & one can make a final choice.
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