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By Mad Max & Bkd | 29-Jan-2018
RULES for the NEW Contest..'POT OF GOLD'
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PRELIMINARY ROUND: Part-I
*Period:31st Jan'18 to 11th Feb'18
*Applicable to ALL centres except DELHI & CHENNAI.
*Nominate 2 horses for WIN from any 2 legs of the SUPER JACKPOT POOL ONLY, as declared in the card. Clearly mentioning the race no. and the name of the horse, in all your postings. Nominations received from outside the SJP legs, would be INVALIDATED.
* NO CHANGES in nomination or SUBSTITUTION for WITHDRAWALS would be permissible. In all ‘withdrawn’ cases, the nominated horse would be transferred by default, onto the tote FAVOURITE of that race, at the local centre.
*Postings will be accepted till the start of the first race of the day.
*Notional Bet value would be considered @ 10,000 pts each.
*Local tote dividends would be applicable for WIN only (No SHP or Place)
*The TOP 25 ranked tipsters, on the basis of highest earnings, would be shortlisted and promoted to the final round of this contest.
Details of which would be circulated later.
*NO restriction in participation or minimum number of days to fulfill.
However, it is in the individual contestant’s interest, so as not to miss out on any race meeting. If you happen to remain absent, you obviously lose out on the opportunity to increase your earnings for that day.
*The ultimate winner of this contest would be presented with a virtual Pot of GOLD. 2 Runner ups would get SILVER & BRONZE respectively.
We intend to run such contests periodically, and you can keep on increasing your tally of virtual awards.
Further details regarding TIPSTER’S HALL OF FAME and RACING OLYMPIAD will follow.
Best of Luck to all participants.
Warm Regards,
MAD MAX & BKD
81 Replies
Haresh Bhat said ...
01-Feb-2018RACE # 6
Horse Name: FAIR GAME(4)
RACE # 7
Horse Name: GOLDEN SUCCESS(4)
Pog Contest Team said ...
01-Feb-2018Your score will be updated, 2nd bet as 7-10 Bonfire 1000 T x 30 = 30,000 Points.
You are ranked at 9 now.
You can VIEW the updated Excel Worksheet File and also Leaderboard on the following links:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YI3pr1HLsJOY9slNlXGe-Lh2ZBtjF2h7Dg8OmskVA-M/edit?usp=sharing
Anil said ...
01-Feb-2018very Good maintenance Excel sheet score sir
Anil
Sethuraman said ...
01-Feb-2018DEAR MADMAX AND BKD
SETHURAMAN said ..On : 1/31/2018 12:10:38 PM
Race no 5 GREEK GODDESS
RACE NO 6 DIAMOND ATTRACTION
DIAMOND ATTRACTION WITHDRAWN. BUT FAV. INTREPID WARRIOR
BUT TIPSTERS NAME LIST MY NAME IS NOT INCLUDED. WHY? I AM NOT ELIGIBLE?
Eswaran said ...
01-Feb-20184-9 : ICE WEAPON
8-10 : BONFIRE
I have posted the race number erroneously. It is, of course, correct not to take this into account.
Thanks.
Mad Max said ...
31-Jan-2018Rectified and Updated File As on 01.02.2018 at 12.45 AM
Available on following Links.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YI3pr1HLsJOY9slNlXGe-Lh2ZBtjF2h7Dg8OmskVA-M/edit?usp=sharing
It is noted the previous Links published is available to see the unedited file. Hence ignore it.
Pog Contest Team said ...
31-Jan-2018Please note we are not keeping records of losses incurred by Tipsters during the preliminary stage. But we are penalizing the winner by deducting his Investments from his total gain.
Imagine a tipster lost consecutively for four days. He lost 4 x 20000 = 80,000 and his losses are neither recorded nor he has to repay the losses as per the existing rules. If the loser registers next race day a FLUKE WIN with a moderate winning dividends of 100 on tote, he accrues 1,00,000 points (1000 T x 100).
And imagine another tipster consistently winning five days and remain on top of the Leader board with 75000 points, remember his points are net, less investments.
There is a chance the former edge past the leaders because the existing rule is Loser Friendly. How we can allow LOSERS to use 20000 points daily and ignore, and at the same we punish the WINNERS by deducting their investment from the total gain. We want to give equal chance to winners and losers. Hence I took privilege to alter existing Rule No.2 Calculation method. We will NOT TO DEDUCT the INVESTMENTS from the losers and Winners as well which kindly note.
Calculation Method:
(a)-Contestant nominates 2 WIN bets @ 10,000 EACH.
(b)-If both(A & B) are winners; then,
(c)-Entitlement-A:1000 Tickets X Tote dividends = (Profit from A)
(d)-Entitlement-B:1000 Tickets X Tote dividends = (Profit from B)
(e)-Score to be published in the evening: A + B Dividends is your GROSS POINTS
@ Sethuraman
Your horse withdrawn, and replaced with racetime favourite Intrepid Warrior. Your total points 43000 points and Rank 7.
For online Excel Sheets click copy and paste the following links on your browser and ENTER.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qPsVwLGdzk7bDcf--naxdnTnGnqTwCSz/view?usp=sharing
Bkd said ...
31-Jan-2018You are absolutely right. Dividends from both the winners (1 by default)
RC#5-GREEK GODDESS: 27000 (1000 X 27)
Rc#6-*INTREPID WARRIOR: 16000 (1000 X 16)
Total: 43000 pts.
* Since DIAMOND ATTRACTION was WITHDRAWN in Rc#6. The nomination was transferred onto the tote favourite..Intrepid Warrior, which subsequently won that race.
Oversight is regretted. However, please ensure that you clearly mention the Race number, horse number and the name of the horse to avoid such inadvertent omission in future.
Thanks & Regards,
BKD
@ Mad Max: Kindly include Sethuraman in your list. He will be in 7th position.
Svkraju said ...
31-Jan-2018Thanks for the update. I dont think that i need to post my score. Started off well, hope it will continue a successful day every day.
Sethuraman said ...
31-Jan-2018DEAR MAD MAX
SETHURAMAN said ...On : 1/31/2018 12:10:38 PM
Race no 5 GREEK GODDESS
RACE NO 6 DIAMOND ATTRACTION
THANKS
sir DIAMOND ATTRACTION WITHDRWAN. I AM ELIGIBLE FOR BOTH WINS? OR NOT.
Mad Max said ...
31-Jan-2018The Leaderboard you published having no Tipsters Names. I sent it correctly, but it is missing, may be something happened wrong in transit. Hence I am compressing it and sending once again. Please DELETE the earlier one published at : 1/31/2018 6:54:20 PM and publish this post.
Rank>> Tipster Name>> Points >> Remarks
1 << Syns >> 98000
2 << SVKRaju >> 67000 >> Double
3 << BVS Prasad >> 57000 >> Double
4 << Jayakumar >> 55000
5 << God Is Great >> 46000 >> Double
6 << Srini >> 46000 >> Double
7 << Feiro99 >> 30000
8 << Almost Famous >> 27000
9 << Anil >> 27000
10 << Anindya >> 27000
11 << GS Bhatia >> 27000
12 << Nilban >> 27000
13 << Nps >> 27000
14 << Race Selection >> 27000
15 << Alen D >> 16000
16 << BKD >> 16000
17 << Honeytips9 >> 16000
18 << Narayan Murthy >> 16000
19 << Ram Iyer >> 16000
20 << Stallion >> 16000
21 << Tiger >> 16000
@ Indiarace Admin
Please publish the Shared EXCEL Work Sheet of the Contestants
so that they can see the calculations and revert back in case of any error. I assure you no one can make any comments there. No one can interact or initiate discussion in that file. It is shared just for viewing. Hope you will do publish the links.
@ All Contestants
Please visit the following links and view the Excel work sheet. In case of any error, please write in Horse Talk only.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qPsVwLGdzk7bDcf--naxdnTnGnqTwCSz/view?usp=sharing
Mad Max said ...
31-Jan-2018------------------------------
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Total Contestants Participated: 42
Total Winners: 21
Total Losers : 21
Double Dhamaka Pass by 4 Tipsters:
Congratulations to M/s SVK Raju, BVS Prasad, God Is Great & Srini.
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Pog Contest Team said ...
31-Jan-2018Thank you all for your wonderful response to the POG contest.
However, you are requested to kindly cooperate with the Contest Administrator by ensuring that Your 2 Nominations for the day:.......
1) Clearly states the selected Race Nos. (within the SJP legs only)
2) Horse Numbers
3) Horse Names
for illustration: 2-14 MR CHANG & 5-9 GREEK GODDESS.
(A simple one liner as above, will suffice)
Also make sure that you post your selections BEFORE THE FIRST RACE OF THE DAY.
Violation of the time deadline would also invalidate your entry.
Although we have excused a few contestants today for lapses in the above stated norms, being the first day of the competition, we would be compelled to disqualify any such incomplete entries, in the future.
Thanks again.
Pog Contest Team said ...
31-Jan-2018Advise about the following two !
Chase - tipped only one horse.
Affinity & Yknot - both tipped two horses each from one race
Few others posted selections either without Race Number, Horse Number or Horse Name, their entries are accepted, but need to advise them to cooperate.
Bkd said ...
31-Jan-2018Being the first day of the contest, let us condone the individual lapses, but with an advisory to be more careful in the future.
Chase: Consider the single selection only.
Affinity & Yknot: Consider their first choice only
Those that posted without Rc no, H No or H Name..please request all participants to cooperate in this regard by positively mentioning the required details, from their next post onwards. Failing which, we would be compelled to disqualify such incomplete entries.
Almost Famous said ...
31-Jan-2018Jwc said ...
31-Jan-20187) 7. ZIDAAN
Vampsvenom said ...
31-Jan-2018R-7 11(M.SITIKUS)
Regards
VAMPSVENOM
Almost Famous said ...
31-Jan-2018Crk said ...
31-Jan-2018Race No. 3, Horse No. 8...ASCENDENCY.
Race No.7, Horse No. 1...CASTLE KING.
Tiger said ...
31-Jan-2018DEAR DADA / MAX,
5-6 SALADIN
6-11 INTREPID WARRIOR
TIGER"........................................................
Bang On said ...
31-Jan-2018R NO 7 H NO 6 BEYOND THANKFUL
BANG ON
Honeytip9 said ...
31-Jan-2018Race no:6. Horse No 11. Interprid Warrior.
Stallion said ...
31-Jan-2018Stallion said ... On : 1/31/2018 12:54:04 PM
POG contest
43 Double Trouble
6 11 Intrepid Warrior
ALL THE BEST
STALLION
Abhay...pune said ...
31-Jan-2018R NO-5-H NO-6-SALADIN
G.s.bhatia said ...
31-Jan-2018R-5 h-9. Greek goddess
R-7 h-2. Castle king
Jayakumar said ...
31-Jan-20187 11 Markus Sitikus
Srini said ...
31-Jan-20187.10 Bonfire
Svkraju said ...
31-Jan-20182R - 14 MR CHANG
6R - 11 INTERPRID WARRIOR
posted at 1.18 pm
Race Selection said ...
31-Jan-2018Pog Contest Team said ...
31-Jan-2018You tipped only one selection. Give one more selections from another race except Race No.1
@ Sethuraman
@Anil,
@Haresh Bhat.
You have not mentioned Horse Number? Please mention Race No, Horse No and Horse Name in future.
@ Affinity
You have chosen two horses from 5th race only.
Please select one horse each from two races (Race Nos. 2 to 7)
@ Nps
You have mentioned Race Number, Horse Number, good, but where is Horse Name? Please do not miss this in future.
@ Anil, Stalingrad, Neutral View, PraTh@M, SVKRaju, Alpesh
You all accepted, but not posted your selections yet. Entries will close at 2.30 PM (that is the start of the first race).
Anindya said ...
31-Jan-2018Sethuraman said ...
31-Jan-2018Race no 5 GREEK GODDESS
RACE NO 6 DIAMOND ATTRACTION
THANKS
Fiero999 said ...
31-Jan-2018Kk Lanka said ...
31-Jan-20183-2 QUEEN and
7-7 ZIDAAN
All the best.
Jayakumar said ...
31-Jan-20187 11 Markus sitikus
Bkd said ...
31-Jan-2018Here's explaining the modus operandi.....by suppositions.
1-Contestant nominates 2 WIN bets (A & B) @ 10,000 EACH.
2-If both(A & B) are winners; then,
-Entitlement-A:1000 T X divnd A -10,000(invment) = X (Profit from A))
-Entitlement-B:1000 T X divnd B -10,000(invment) = Y (Profit from B)
-Score to be published in the evening: X + Y
3-If the same contestant gets another winner (C) out of the 2 nominations, say after 4 meetings, please add Z (Dividend earned from C) to the earlier X+Y score...and so on.
4-If contestant's both the nominations fail in the first instant or it keeps on failing; NO name of the contestant/zero score need to be published; NO record of the investments made, to be maintained either. Simple.
5-Only when a contestant opens his account...that his name and scores would be published and would continue to be shown till 11th Feb; the last day of prelims.
6-It is in the contestant's own interest to participate regularly in the qualifying stage.
7-Thereafter, the shortlisted 25 highest dividend earners (as on 11th Feb) move on to the final phase of the contest, and start from scratch till end of this series (Feb'28th)
8-Please understand that we are not calculating the ROI from this preliminary exercise. So pls don't bother about the total investments made in this period.
9-Actual Profit earned/Loss incurred would only apply in the final stage, with the restricted number of participants(25).
Hope I have been able to clarify and simplify matters as well.
Thank you..
Nilban said ...
31-Jan-20185=9 Greek Goddess
Miler Mano said ...
31-Jan-20185.1 Flying Show
Affinity said ...
31-Jan-20185.6 Saladdin
Alen D said ...
31-Jan-2018Race # 4 Horse # 9 Ice Weapon
Race # 6 Horse # 11 Intrepid Warrior
Miler Mano said ...
31-Jan-20185.1 Flying Show
Sukhdev Singh said ...
31-Jan-2018Race no:6, horse no:13 Felix legion
Syns said ...
31-Jan-20187-7 Zidaan
Sarma
Yknot said ...
31-Jan-20182.5. SAZAE SAN
God Is Great said ...
31-Jan-20187-10 BONFIRE
Narayamurthy said ...
31-Jan-20185.8.amazing safari
Ramiyer said ...
31-Jan-20186.11.Interprid warrior
Eswaran said ...
31-Jan-20184-9 : ICE WEAPON
8-10 : BONFIRE
Alen D said ...
31-Jan-2018Race # 4 Horse # 9 Ice Weapon
Race # 6 Horse # 11 Intrepid Warrior
Mad Max said ...
31-Jan-2018-----------
2-9 PEPPER KING
5-6 SALADIN
M Sainath said ...
31-Jan-20184_3 DOUBLE TROUBLE
6_9 TRUST ME BOY
Anil said ...
31-Jan-20185-Greek Goddess(500 pts)
Againstodds said ...
31-Jan-20185 6 Saladin
6 4 Gracious
Jaihind said ...
31-Jan-2018RACE NO 5 HORSE NO 6 SALADIN
RACE NO 7 HORSE NO 6 BEYOND THANKFUL
Chase said ...
31-Jan-2018Krish said ...
31-Jan-20184 MYS 7 AMAZING BEAUTY
5 MYS 8 AMAZING SAFARI
Mad Max said ...
31-Jan-2018My doubt:
Query: Notional Bet Value 10000 each?
10000 points each - what do you mean? 10000 points each per contestants?
or 10000 points each per selections? If it is later, the contestants get total 20000 points daily. How the calculations to be done when the tipster nominate two bets?
Suppose nominated first horse won. Then the dividend will be 1000 T x Tote Dividends = Profit from 1st bet.
What about the 2nd bet also wins? Is it investment is entire PROFIT FROM 1st Bet x 2nd bet Tote win Dividends = Gross Profit? A La Double basis? Or Is it again 1000 T x Tote Dividends = Profit from 2nd bet. Gross Profit is Profit from 1st bet + Profit from 2nd bet?
If a tipster lost both, then how will he start the next day? 1000T each again? Please explain it so that I can implement the calculation accordingly?
Cruz said ...
30-Jan-2018Race 3 - Horse 10 - Azure Fire
Alen D said ...
30-Jan-2018Thank you so much, once again you have given us a reason to be part of the race without losing penny thanks so much ,,,
Always will be a part of your competition,,,,,,,,,,,
All the best
Regards,
Alen David
Bkd said ...
30-Jan-2018Why are you getting confused between PTR & POG, Max?
They are poles apart.
For instance, there is no concept of a bank or a starting kitty unlike PTR.
Here, a contestant gets 'x' no of chances (in this case about 8 meetings upto 11th February) to nominate a max. of 16 winners (8X2). Depending on ones hit rate, he scores points, based on the winning dividends. That's it!
The top 25 scorers are short listed as on 11th Feb. and the contest rolls ahead (final round)...culminating on 28th Feb', when the winner and the runner ups are declared for the month of Feb....and over to March.....when there will be a similar contest...a qualifying round and then the finals...and so on.
Don't worry....just publish the winning scores daily and we will take off from that point.OK.
Cheers!
B.v.s.prasad said ...
30-Jan-20185 - 9 Greek Goddess
7 - 10 Bonfire
Bkd said ...
30-Jan-2018--------------------------------
Selections
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4-11 SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT
6-11 INTREPID WARRIOR
Thank you.
Bkd said ...
30-Jan-2018The Super Jackpot Pool is normally the last six races of the card. If there is any change, we will keep everyone suitably informed, in advance.
We have planned for monthly tipster contests, and each series will last a maximum of 1 month....to be broken up into preliminary and the final rounds.
So, it really doesn't matter if somebody tips a fluke correctly..it will all even out at the end of the series.
Counting number of wins will force contestants to tip the favourites only, which would defeat the very purpose of the contest, and also diminish the excitement of tipping value based winners.
However, let us assure you that should there be any correction required to control the flow of the contest, we will act appropriately.
Thank you for your queries and the interest you have shown in this game.
Regards,
BKD
Altaf said ...
30-Jan-2018race no 6 horse no 13 felix legion
bol...
Nps said ...
30-Jan-2018Race no.3
Horse no.8
Race no.5
Horse no.9
Mad Max said ...
30-Jan-2018How can you say the tipsters are going to nominate only winners. If the nominated horse fails the tipsters lose their entire kitty if they are allowed to bet entire points? I think, you have made it like a small version of PTR where the contestants can bet small amounts so that they can save points for next day. Is there any difference between PTR and POG ?
Almost Famous said ...
30-Jan-2018Annu said ...
30-Jan-2018Bkd said ...
30-Jan-2018You have to nominate winners from 2 different races, which are included in the SUPER JACKPOT POOL only. For instance, in Mysuru card of tomorrow (31st Jan), the SJP is from 2nd to the 7th Race. Accordingly, please select any race from 2nd to 7th.(Only first race is excluded) OK.
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@ Mad Max,
There is no concept of losing ones nnps, in this version of the contest.
As and when, the contestant successfully nominates a winner, he keeps adding to his score; and will keep on playing till 11th Feb, the concluding date of the preliminary round.
Thereafter, we shortlist the 25 highest scorers for the final phase of the contest, which will finally end on 28th Feb'18, with the announcement of February tipster of the month and the 2 runner ups.
Will move forward depending on the response we receive from the participants.
Cheers!
B.v.s.prasad said ...
30-Jan-2018(1) If somebody gives fkukes to this contest if he get win few of them then he will be leading automatically in leader board.
(2) In few centres there no super jp.
(3) My suggestion is count the no of wins of the participants till the end of this contest and decide the winner, its my opinion only.
Mad Max said ...
30-Jan-2018You have not explained in case the tipster lost his NNPs in the first day, whether he will be allowed to re-enter? If not allowed, they will enter the contest with any other name. This will continue. Elaborate this point and how to tackle re-entries.
Sethuraman said ...
30-Jan-2018Dear Madmax AND BKD
SIR,
CONTEST SUPER JACKPOT POOL OR JP POOLS ?
THANKS
Haresh Bhat said ...
30-Jan-2018Mysore: 31.01.2018
Race # 4
Horse Name: BOLD NATURE
Race # 6
Horse Name: SAFE BET
Stalingrad said ...
30-Jan-2018All the best to rest of the team who are in the contest
Bkd said ...
30-Jan-2018Thanks for the encouraging words.
Wait till you hear MORE exciting news regarding TIPSTER'S HALL OF FAME and
THE KINGS INVITATIONAL CHALLENGE (RACING OLYMPIAD).
The idea behind such contests is to sharpen ones tipping skills and benefit from the mutual expertise of fellow members.
Here's an OVERVIEW:
We hope to run a Monthly contest-of-skill (whenever possible) so that seasoned tipsters could keep adding to their tally of virtual awards. It would also give an opportunity for other aspiring masters to come into the limelight.
However, there would be no pressure to participate.....only an underlying passion for this wonderful sport-of-kings and of course, the urge to make money!
We also plan to attach notional values (nvs) to each of the awards.
GOLD:10 nvs; SILVER:6 nvs; & BRONZE:4 nvs;
End of the year...the most sought after tipster would be the one who has not only managed to collect the maximum nvs, but has also been successful in warding off Challenges from the other Hall of Fame members. Details will follow.
The title: KING-OF-KINGS(2018)
Your thoughts and suggestions in regard to the framing of the future contests are always welcome.
All are cordially invited to participate in these games of skill to not only showcase your individual tipping expertise, but for the overall welfare of the Punters Community.
With Best Wishes,
BKD
Crk said ...
30-Jan-2018Good and Simple Contest. However, I would suggest a prize for a contestant
who nominates the maximum number of WINNERS,so as to make it a level playing field. To cite a situation, consider someone who nominates two winners at say 15/1 or more and all his subsequent nominations are losers, it is most likely that he will emerge as the WINNER,in spite of someone who may have nominated 10-15 winners at lower odds. In such a situation,it is also possible that good tipsters may lose interest midway in the contest if they find someone with a insurmountable lead because of their lucky long odds winners. The aim of the contest, I believe, is to zero down to the best tipster/s, and not just the lucky tipster. One more virtual GOLD POT should not be a problem !
There also needs to be a time frame for the duration of the contest, and a new contest can begin after one ends.
Sincerely hope, the above is considered.
Thanks for the efforts taken. REGARDS.
Neutral View said ...
30-Jan-2018Alpesh said ...
30-Jan-2018know how to participate. Do I have register my name.
Alpesh
Preeth@m said ...
30-Jan-2018Svkraju said ...
30-Jan-2018I like to participate in this wonderful contest and looking forward other talented contestants participation in a big way.
All the best to the organisers and fellow contestants.
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