Thank you all for your inputs and knowledge sharing.

@ champ,

This name was/is in existence since more than 20 years- unlike yours which came in existence only today...

there are 2 options available.
first option is; play the video on a taperecorder with the facility of run stop run and record the position of runners.

second option: Contact RS Gupta- photographer of Mumbai race course for 'still' photos at various distances. He may charge Rs.100 to 200 per race day...

there is no stretch call position- 'number of lengths behind the leading horse' in Indian racing; the leader may be shorthead ahed or 1/2 length or distance ahead at 'Indian stretch call- 600m away from winning post'...


It is unfortunate that you ask these important questions with a pseudonym...

roflmao...what are you doing with a pseudonym, Mr. Sermon delivery boy!!!

In Mumbai Cole is giving time of every 200 mtrs in the races but only one time for the winner not for individual runners.
Ravi Gowande
Pedigreestar

Mr Indianfrankel
Will you let me call myself 'Indian Justify' and I suppose you are aware that trainer Padmanabhan has the recent Bangalore winner 'Indian Pharaoh' in his yard?
I had the unique privilege of seeing Frankel win the 2011 Q E II Cup at Ascot. Again in 2012, I was at Ascot when the mighty Frankel made it 14 for 14 winning the 2000-metre Champion Stakes on rain-softened grass. Sir Henry Cecil trained Frankel for Khalid Abdullah. Don't we all know now why the top sophomore in Padmanabhan's barn is called Sir Cecil? Sir (Henry) Cecil was a personal friend of the Padmanabhans.
Coming to your question, what you are asking is not being done in India yet. As a matter of fact, it is being experimented on a very limited basis in the United Kingdom. In America and Canada, the races are charted at different points depending on the distance of the race. A 1600-metre race will have four points of call. At the first 400, at the 800, at the 1200 and at the finish which is the 1600.
Let us say there are three horses. Let us say that at the 400, the order is 3,2 and 1. Let us say that 3 is a length in front of the 2 who is two lengths ahead of 1. Let us say the first 400 were run in 24 seconds. What this means is that 3 did the 400 in 24 seconds. The 2 covered the first 400 in 24 1/5 seconds. The 1 covered it in 24 3/5 seconds.
A length is 1/5 of a second. A horse covers five lengths in one second.
The process is repeated at the 800 and at the 1200. At the 1600, the finish, the photograpgher, using a film strip, gives the chart caller the margins between the first and the second. Then the second and third and so on.
In our example, if 3 is the winner by two length in 1 38 seconds and the 2 is second, that means the 2 got the trip in 1 38 2/5. Let us say that 1 was four lengths off 2, then the 1 covered the 1600-mile journey 1 39.1 seconds.
It is not complicates but it takes some getting used to. In England and Ireland, the courses go up and down , take curious turns and right and left-handed. In the US and Canada, the tracks are all left-handed and are flat like an iron board. Epsom Downs in England has a 412-feet climb soon after the start in a 2400-metre. Then the horses descend on a turn and run uphill to the finish.
This is a valuable handicapping tool, Theoretically, it can be done in India. I believe we will have this sooner than later.
If one understands what I have elaborated, one will have an easier time understanding why front runners are sometimes not caught and why some horses rally way off the pace to deliver.
If a horse goes slow quarters, then there is more petrol left in the tank for the last (critical) part. If there is a duel or battle up front that saps the energy of the contenders involved, then the race sets up for a come-from-behind horse.

I did this for 25 years in America. There is a chart caller and there is a chart taker. The information is fed into the computer (until 1984/85 it was manual and typewriters are used) and out comes the chart from the printer.

I suppose I have made some sense.

there are 2 options available.
first option is; play the video on a taperecorder with the facility of run stop run and record the position of runners.

second option: Contact RS Gupta- photographer of Mumbai race course for 'still' photos at various distances. He may charge Rs.100 to 200 per race day...

there is no stretch call position- 'number of lengths behind the leading horse' in Indian racing; the leader may be shorthead ahed or 1/2 length or distance ahead at 'Indian stretch call- 600m away from winning post'...


It is unfortunate that you ask these important questions with a pseudonym...

Lucky Spinner gives bend position of horses, which should be sufficient to evaluate a horse in the particular races.

Also the book gives against every horse the finishing position and also throws light whether the horse is unextended [U], improving {I] slowly off [s] excelled [E] too good [T] while finishing.

I have been getting Lucky Spinner and could spot winners easily with such elaborate information. However, LS is no more available in Chennai. Its available in Bangalore Race Course and also in Pune where one is required to obtain from Club premises.

Its worth getting this book, which will make ones work easy to spot winners. indiarace.com can also take pains and give the above information, if they have a will to help punters.