SSPP, 

Once upon a time your write up was interesting to go through, nowdays, it is boring. Sivaramakrishna, Destiny, Godzilla etc were bang on target. You are welcome to give tips here, but you cannot impose your thoughts on others. Nobody will bet their live in horse racing.

I pay and read some articles which are useful to me and to this society.

Advice should be delivered only on demand.

@ Sailesh Biswas & @ Prinit...

      Thank you for your response... Very frankly speaking... I am a small punter... I used to be in my limits... I adore and admire racing... I respect all the experienced Tipsters in this forum... They are all good with their analysis... Sometimes their Tips may fail but always they are in front of many as per Racing knowledge... Very few... Very few can enjoy racing... If they did't enjoy Hore Races, they can't come to Race Course or Off-Tote centres... Of course its a costly entertainment and there is no guarantee for your money... Everyone knows about this... but why they are coming?... not for easy money... not to loose their hard earned money also... It's something else... That's the beauty of racing... One has to accept it or else better to quit... 

      This is my personal opinion... This forum is for Race lovers not for haters... This is my understanding... Thank you all... With regards... Siva Ramakrishna.

Sri. R.Ramesh

Thanks for the info about disappeared Tipsters. I am sorry to hear about Late Sri Vamanan. His analysis were at par excellent  he had quite of followers and fans. Many of his tips failed because he did not take account of Jockeyship. He suggested a wonderful project. Just put 100 for a sure place even 70 paise or 80 paise also will do and roll it up in the next meeting or in the same day if you are quite sure. Within ten Roll you will beamazed how much you have.It was a nice idea. I took it up as a project I went upto 30K Chennai Bookmakers reluctant to take big amount for place  I thought of splitting and playing different Bookmakers. To some extent it was a successful project. I remember him very well. May his noble soul rest in peace.

ayyarnet

Hi

Horse racing is an art and also one need luck to be in his favour to win.

Firstly always look at the horse whom he has beaten and not run behind, like today maximum punters do it.

If an class 5 horse runs behind class 1 or 2 it doesn't mean he is good and can win class 4 race easily.

Luck plays an important role, sometimes they get blocked or slow at start or jokey falling off, etc.,

There is no guarantee on winnings until white cone is hoisted.

Ravi

Dear sSSP,  as I told u every time  I go through the essay writing of urs.. What I personally is ur WOUNDS look very  fresh... ( HOW MANY ACCEPT HERE brother  SSSP is still  continuing in Racing.) ur Essay  writing  always  describe that u want  to stop many people as much as possible  and take some kind of REVENGE on the race course...  Which is not going to happen in entire life...  2 questions brother 

1. Does a person knows  who is smoking what r the consequences of a cigarette...  How many  will  quit and how  many  start newly smoke 

2. Does the peoLe here knows  what's happening in today's  racing...  Because ur point outing every body  here...  Every body is matured here... 

Brother u stop going  to races First... I'm 100 percent sure that ur countuing with the races...  Because isee revenge type essay writing on bookies r something.....  U stop  going first it's good for u...  As a friend in telling u....  HOW MANY AGree if I say dear SSSP is still in races.....  

@ Anil Xk 

     How do you conclude that races are decided "with luck in the last 20 m"? No amount of study will help you select the winner in the long run. Why astrologers, even Gods cannot predict a winning horse? Meanwhile, is there anything called "responsible gambling". Another meaning of it is "irresponsible way of life"

 @ Vijayakumar 

     It's for people like you that I keep posting my writings here Sir. My 'relentless' pursuit will continue as long as I find replies from people like you. 

@ Saggittarian

     Please understand that there is a world of difference between 'someone' tipping a horse and a 'seasoned' punter or writer doing so. There are many race-goers who take the selections - particularly those from established writers like the Major and Mr Shashank - given here as the last word. So my only appeal was to avoid zeroing in on a particular horse and just stop with discussing the possibilities of every participating horse in a race.

@ Chanakya

     There is nothing called 'intelligence' in racing. That's why every race course is devoid of intelligent people. No punter, for that matter, can be branded as intelligent'. It's all blind luck. Therefore, you cannot teach or enlighten anyone about racing. Mistakes can't be corrected, you can only see them multiplying here.

@ Ajay Shah

     If a comparison is to be made between horse racing and stock market, I can say with conviction the latter is far better as a destination for investment because you will be left with something - at least a portion of your investment - on a red day. In sharp contrast, in racing it can only be a complete washout on most days.

@ skumar

     My attempt is for the middle class punters who get ruined in racing in no time. My appeal is to the younger lot who are thronging race courses all over the country, hoping to make a quick buck.

@ Ayyarnet

     I have not suggested (at least in this post) anywhere that "everybody must quit betting" as you have started your sharp criticism against me. You seem to be a serious 'liar' from top to bottom. If someone claims at the ripe age of 77 that he has been making money almost daily and that too in the range of Rs.50,000, you alone can be that. Again, you always address yourself as "We". Who is this "we"? You might be owning estates and selling them one after the other to give dakshina in the race course, who is bothered? I write for those autowallas and watchmen who burn their midnight oil for a livelihood but land in the race course on wrong advice to make quick money. Don't be so greedy at this age. I never advised you how to spend your money. Even if you put sacks of money in the 'coouvum' river, I will not take objection, plese. You say "we" spend only small "recoverable" amount. In another thread, you had also said that you play only Rs.10,000 per bet. So Rs.10,000 is "small" and "recoverable" money for you? Not only you, everyone plays on record. I can't believe if you say that you engage in charity only because 'charity' and 'gambling' are just two opposite poles. Maybe, you do charity when you win, but when do you win? On one hand, you ask me not to engage in personal attacks but here you describe me as an 'ugly' character? I can make it out how uglish you must be. PS : My watchman is 80+ but I don't call him 'Sir', Got it? You must learn to command respect.

@ Viswa

     I totally agree with you that racing is "meant for only royals" and the general racing public flatly refuses to accept it.

@ Hals

    It is not 'deregatory' but 'derogatory'. Where have I used such a language in my post, please point it out. I don't write to hurt others but to help others, the needy. You say "repeated advice is not required" but where did I say that my advices are for you? Come on buddy

@ IIMBLUE

     I too wonder why "Ayyarnet" follows me like a shadow Sir? Is this what we call "shadow fighting"? Hahahaha.... You are very right when you say "many come to race course to satisfy their ego". There can't be a more shining example than Ayyarnet.

@ Funny guy

     If I am going to do this preaching in front of a race-course< I am afraid that I will be 'stoned' to death (with 'ayyarnet' being the first stoner?) Hahahahaha.....

@ R Ramesh

     Do my writings affect you in anyway, please? I don't think you pay and read my posts? This is not a place for 'super' brains but it's true that 'good' brains get drained soon after coming here. You must have had a lot of experience on this count, isn't it?

@ Destiny1

     I did quit racing in 2014. If I am lying I will not be writing such posts but posting my selections on a daily basis. You say "few people make money here". Can you show me at least a couple of them? Are you one among them? Come on dude.

@Siva Ramakrishna

    I don't write to earn respect or goodwill of others. Nor do I want everyone to accept my advices. Even if one or two punters benefit out of reading my posts, I am happy. My preachings go to those punters, who leave their family in poverty at home and come to race-course and enjoy (as you said) by smoking, drinking and then losing all the money. I think you are a youngster. So, please remember that the cigarettes you smoke in the race course happily and the jokes that you crack are only temporary. The huge trouble that awaits you are hidden in the clouds. When they finally arrive, these smokers and jokers will not be found around. Hope you realise the truth. The sooner the better. 

Few facinating tipsters who disappeared from HT.

Vamanan - A superb tipster who used to give one or two for the day. Very popular in HT, unfortunately he passed away. A great tipster.

Velvet Rope - After the race he used give some expert comments, wow fantastic. He will mark few horses for the future to note based on the run. Excellent analysis. Disappeared from HT like MH370.

Albert K - Well known for his humbleness and Excellent English. 

@sspp

As previously written, do not get disturbed for these -ve replies. They will come much more in future. But remember,  the GOOD always overcomes the BAD at the end.

Continue your selfless write-ups, for there could be many, many new commers and more and more in-experienced but poor punters who are addicted and find it difficult to keep out of the race course. Even if very few people realise that there is  only money loosing in this sport and slowly stop going to the race course, then it is soothing to your conscience, for you have atleast helped save a few families lives.

The people who write -ve comments are either rich and can afford their losses,or else still borrowing from others and trying their best to recover some money..

Good sense is difficult tp appreciate, while self bloated talk is appreciated.

Looking forward to many more articles from you, trying to keep people away from this manipulated cum money looting sport....called HORSE  RACING.

Respected siva Ramkrishna ji,   please refer to your post dated 10.03.2020. Thank you very much for your wonderful views which I think is in conformity with the views of millions and millions horse Lovers/punters all over the world. Excellent writing speaks my heart.  With regards,   Sailesh 

Each punter individual is capable of taking care of himself/herself. No one is immatured. Big articles from time to time warning the punters will be of bad taste. 

Bang on target Mr Siva Ramakrishna..!!!!! Absolutely agree with your comments and second them myself!

Hello Sir,

      Everyone respect your advise... but no one accepts except few... Whenever you are having time and when there is a gap of 2 or 3 days holidays for racing, your article appears with some title and without go through it all the HTians knows that it's your preaching against racing... It goes on... It goes on...

      Sir... "Too much of anything is good for nothing"...Am I weight?... As per the words of Ayyernet Sir "We know our responsibilities... and We know our limits"... Always there is an other side of the coin... Let us enjoy, entertain, gain or loss we are happy with racing... We may win or We may loose... We are happy with Horse Races...It's true Sir... Each and every punter have their own reasons to come to Race Clubs or Off-tote Centres... Who will stop them except themselves and Who ask them to come to Race Course to play...It's their will and wish... Always there are pros and cons about anything in this world... So time teaches everything... 

      As an experienced person I respect you Sir... but I love to watch and play within my limits... It's an entertainment... and enjoyment for a whole day... In the Race course or in the off-tote centres everyone mingles with everyone... No caste... No Religion... No age... No Egos... Everyone clubs... Sharing Coffee, Tea, Ciggarates, playing jokes, whistles,... Come on... Come on... Easy... That's it... Yeah I got it... For all the above excitement Race course it self is Heaven... With a little reasonable and affordable Amount many are enjoying like me... I am one among them... I can explain this much... and I support the words of Ayyernet Sir and S Kumar Sir... Thank you Sir...

     With Regards... Siva Ramakrishna.

Hi, sssp... When ever I see ur post's I can feel ur pain in it but one thing did u really QUIT racing... Or just lying to urself...  When ever there Fluke winner's then the next day ur post appears... Every punter who is minimun six months old knows what's happening in racing... Brother in the whole world people loose money not the CASINO'S... There's atleast few percent of people who make money here... They play max 2 to 3 bets.... U had quitted the racing then what is the reason for coming here with ur ESSAY WRITINGS... As I think if u still continuing racing then Stop immediately.... Because when ever I see ur post it's looks like u just lost money.... Stop going to races.... If u can't stop going to races atleast go n play 2 r 3 races..  

If your previous post goes down, you start a fresh one. Nothing new.

This is a platform for super brains to study the card deeply and give their views and suggestions. Selecting the correct one or the wrong one is immaterial. Never mind winning or losing.

This is a forum to pick the Winners and identify the Pretenders.

Instead preaching here you should stand in front of race course and say all these things to punters lol let's see how many will agree with you ...

Everytime 'Smart' comes up with a post, Ayyarnet comes up with his bio data. Then he calls himself 'we'  and gives list of horses he played and how many thousands he made. 

No disrespect meant to anyone, but that is exactly my point. I suspect many come to races to satisfy their ego. One winner they catch,  they have to go on showing ticket to everyone! One exacts they miss by short margin, they have to keep the ticket in circulation. There are people who bragg about a long shot they caught decades back and some others who bragg  about how much they have lost. 

My advice would be to stay away from fellow punters and tipsters. Make your own bed or get out. Racing is not meant for you! 

At the outset I would like to draw your attention to the request of the admin that since this column is for healthy debate/discussion and not use deregatory language and hurt the feeling of others. Just because one horse lost the selector are not fools. Everybody got their own calculations but finally nobody knows the intention of the connections. Repeated advice is not required. Most of the HTians are seniors and their advice / suggestion on RACING is always more helpfull to others, sound debate is always worthy but insinuation for individual is not accepted by anybody. Regular punters and HTians now make this forum for healthy debate and interaction to help fellow punters. Hope everybody agrees and co-operate. Thanks.

A good and meaningful analysis. The core of the issue is that this,so called,game of skills is a royal gambling and undoubtedly meant for only royals. The general racing public flatly refuse to accept this universal fact. It'a grave sin to enter the race course with one's hard earned money to make quick bucks.If U   are an addict to horse racing and U just can't keep away from the race course, you can still visit the course with a small sum , spend time with your friends and try making your pocket money there because it requires a great lot of money, racing knowledgeable, patience , wisdom , leisure time and, of course, a little bit of luck on the part of even a professional punter  to make a fortune in the race course which has already proved to be a graveyard for so many punters in the past. Thank U.

Dear SSPP:

The title The Rise and fall ofa punter was suggestedtoyou by me only year ago when you wanted to writea book. In fct I suggested The Fall and Rise ofa punter will be suitable to you since you say you are leading a Happy Life.

Your suggestion rather wish that everybody must quit bettting in Races may be good in the long range but varies person to persons or category. 

We have worked and accumulated sufficient funds and we have regular income from our estate immovable property rented out. How to spend money is our own will and pleasure. 

We are responsible people we spend a small recoverable amoun only. We do not throw in peti or big amount and then naratting sobbig stories. here. We play based on record and our favourite frequently winning jockey only Saturday I lost money on David Egan yesterday I recovered with Barrack with same jockey. This strategy works out for me I play two or tree Races only where there is certainity exists.  we are also supporting certain percentage of our income to needy charitable organisations or needy people or ailing people. That iswhy een at a ripe age alsowe are happy and Healthy.

If you are happy after quitting Races we are very much pleased to hear that you have been Rehabilitated. Then why you are again coming here this Horse is not good that Horse not goodetc. If youfeel out of interest a particular horse is good and likely to win then give here before the Race. After the Race this man is suggesting a Favorite horse that anybody an post here etc. shows your ugly charater or Nature. I am sorry.

I suggested three horses Mishkai Vulcan and Barrack all three horseswon I have played these three Horses only. Whatever be the odds we havesomething instead of nothing.  What iswrong in that.

What irritate us is your hypocritic attitude while you are suggesting every one toquit Races what dioes it matter for you to think about Vulcan or Caprisa. That makes us to think even though this person left Races butstill Raceshaunts him.

If you want to create aware ness please do it in the proper way. 

I have said enough and niow we will ignore your posting and it is not good on our part to confront with you and it is below our dignity also.

So bye  -  wishing you goodluck in all your future endeavours

ayyarnet

Dear SSPP.....

well good attempt you made to reach the audience..Nothing wrong...

Many preach here and confuse you..dont get bogged down....

when the sport is itself is such that " you ask one question...thousand questions only comes back to you as answer"....

people have made long list of achievements in this sport..we all have seen that and is continuing inspite of three years going by..dont worry..

whatever blog they have visited ...they come back here as their destiny only to preach us... 

while i agree with Saggittarrian  completely ... you make an attempt ....

as far as you are concerned ... you should reach maximum audience with your posts... Thats It 

Regards

SK 

@SSPP. You are right. I don't think any punter is going to the races just to enjoy the ambience. Every one,repeat everyone,is just going to try and make some fast money and not to enjoy. Which activity in the world ,if going only to enjoy does a person spend so much time to study and discuss and have anxiety and mental tensions.Not to mention financial tensions. I remember back in around 1989 I had gone along with a friend to the Stock Exchange floor to see the functioniny. Was amazed at the energy there,old men who could hardly walk straight,the moment they entered the room,they were full of energy and shouting,just to invest in shares and wait patiently for returns. I told my friend it is faster in the races to make money. He laughed that day and still he laughs,while I have nothing to laugh about but cry over money lost and opportunities and importantly Time lost. This is a punters life. Not a single friend nor any acquaintances made at the course,no one has made money. Only loss.

@ sspp,

your  intention may  be  right  but  your  approach/advice  is  wrong - rather  hazy and unclear; this remark  is  for  your ollder posts...

in  this  post you  have  tried  to  single  out  few people, instead  of  posting  your opinion/idea/advice... that  is  ok... 

tell me - do  you  think that  a reader/punter  in  this  forum is  devoid of  basic intelligence  and  can not  differentiate between  an  flattery  or  genuine appreciation...

if  he  can  not  , he  is  doomed otherwise  also - sooner  or  later...

our effort  must  be  to teach/enlighen/inform/advice  a punter what  racing  is - good  or  bad points, plus points and  pitfalls associated  with  it  and how  to remove/overcome  the  mistakes/blunders a  plunter maked  in  his effort to  make  some  money...

tagetting individuals  show  the 'lowness'  of  a  writer and  joining  the self-confessed  loser does  no  good  to  a  writer or  a  person  who  wants  to share  his  experiences - good/bad or  ugly...

In a highly competitive and unpredictable  but ' decipherable'  field  an experienced  person  must  give/offer/advice  some  practical  suggestions...

think  over  it?

If some one chooses to follow Caprisca having been tipped in this forum, means they lack in basic handicapping skill and they can stay away.

At the same time Vulcan was also tipped and what is wrong if their shoulders are up. 

If some people chose to tip only one or two and even one of them passes nothing wrong in bragging as long as the choice is in bettable odds(longer odds).

However I wish you pinpoint the persons you are talking about so that they can defend obviously.

A very nice writeup on the real face of the racing industry.  Every thing has been put in a nutshell. Really an Eye-opener to all who are still pursuing this sport for pleasure, hobby or even as a, livelihood, .

I salute you profoundly for your relentless pursuit in  creating public awareness on the evils of this game of chance..

I wonder as to how this game which is full of wickedness is still called as a game of skill..

Dear SSpp,

Horse racing is purely science with luck in last 20 metres.

The problem with many punters are they are not going to course with clarity of bet.

A card normally consists of class V to Class I races, carrying distance.

A study and selection of pet class with distance and decision on right time will help, but many play irrespective of the situation.It is the punter to be decided to invest or not because of it is his own hard earned money.

I never think that astrologers can predict winning horse .

The time, weight, riding type, runners behaviour, trainers expertise on particular class, distance, track work , medical treatments etc are vital factors, so if we analyse all able to study max two races per day.

So gamble responsively