@ Ruchi, 

Well said Ruchi. Your suggestion to 'humble down ', as you put it, is needed very much in this forum. A few points to think about in this quarantine days..

As in any forum, there will be people with different belief systems, personal characteristic traits, and behaviour. Consequently, one can expect some to proclaim a lot of winning strategies, and a few to pounce on them with their version or rebuttal. The debate on any topic finally turns to a free for all, and colourful adjectives gets the centre stage, and the topic/debate a burial. So, the question to be asked by each one of us.. Am I the culprit?

One may have also noticed that a few issues are repeated ad-Infinitum by a few, irrespective of the topic at hand, and their personal grudges from past interactions gets a new platform. If someone points the irrelevance of it, he is asked to skip the topic.

Is this fair?

Do we not need to do a little introspection, especially of our interaction in a public platform? Should we always aim to have the last word in any interaction, no matter the irrelevance or stupidity inherent in it?

To sum up...

A little humility, in these times, would be much in order. Good for our immunity too!

Regards.

Lalwani Ji 

You have misunderstood. Racing is not all banned but temporarily suspended or halted due to Govt order for allowing too many person to congregate at one place to stop spreading COVID19. That is all. Once the curfew is lifted Racing will continue. But when ?? 

Nobody knows.

Regards

ayyarnet

Hello Ayyarnet,

Would appreciate if you could post links for those two books.

Ruchi:

If you do not have any other work please read a few good books to prepare yourself for better prediction. I  We have had our innings and in fact your good self will be the FIRST one to give your prediction as soon as the Race Card is published ! Please be kind enough to NOT TO DRAG other people here unnecessarily.  Either you put up or shut up !

I have two books : 1) Sports Astrology 2) X-Raying the Winners

If you are interested I will uploaded it in ithe internet and give you the link here. You can even read it in your smart phone also.

Please try to be friendly with every one. Of course I was bit crude towards you once but later I had apologised for the same also realising my mistake.

Best Regards

Ayyarnet

May be by June races will begin.

Sorry, I was talking about numerology.  BY MISTAKE   IT WAS POSTED  BEFORE THE MATTER IS FINSHED.  I Play only BANGALORE & MYSORE. Other centers only to pass the time,that too now and then.  One of my Numerology predicted win NYSSA. At Bangalore,last race of the day . Card no 9 NYSSA.very very strong indication as winner by numerology. I was rather confused to accept the indication. But my years together observation and study made me to play on it . I played 2000/- win &. 2000/- place in tote at Asrao anger .You know,Rs 202/-were paid for Win.It was last in the tote board.Numerology  never go on indicating numbers in each and every race.Its indication will come hardly once or twice either for win or place.

Let us discuss this matter at an appropriate time/forum.Any  when the races will start a big question now###It is a little early to think of it .After 20th of this month we get some idea  ,.jun or July .

Actually RAGHVAN 

I feel all including myself should now HUMBLE DOWN

See the situation of the world now,Forget racing,may be if we come out of this stage of CARONA VIRUS,then one should consider it as a Second life

When I introspect deeply I feel that it's time to put the deep rooted high headness ,ego,and andi know all attitude of some aside and  humble down

Applies to you,me,lightning ,Arya and other ORIGINAL persons who never leave a opportunity to pull down others

HUMBLE DOWN GUYS (including yours truly) ,

Raghavanji, I am sorry, instead of asking you to guess or assume I have asked you to predict.Ur right only jothish pandits do that one.

@lightningstrikes  Ltr Dted 31-3-2020

No doubt neither Astrologers nor Numerologers could predict that a virus would come to destroy humans and its systems.  Ok. There are hundreds and thousands of agencies in the world in different fields,did any body of them forcosted it,If some  body did it , then only you can say Astrologers and Numerologers are failed to predict it, Otherwise the statement stand void. First of all I would like to know that how long  lighteningstrikes have studied these two sciences and put them   in practice . 

The Astrologers with the help of a paper and pencil can  give you full particulars of any eclipse even after 100 years letters.  It’s a science.

Regarding Numerology.,It works .  By  following,pedig- ree,handicapping,race books ,track work ,inside information etc no body has became Millionaire. Your work will be nearer to the winner or some times Winner. But numerology is not like that, it tells correct Winner and gun shot winner on higher odds .

In this matter I would like to give onlyon

Ruchi,

You say Lightningstrikes & Ayyarnet are the two persons, sure to visit the race course the moment racing resumes and they are big hypocrites.

I do not think those two are the only people eagerly awaiting resumption of races.   I am also in the list.  So also  there are 100s, even 1000s who are eagerly waiting for races to resume & are cursing  this lockdown!  If you are calling them hypocrites on some other considerations, then I would not poke my nose.

Anyway the "hypocrite" tag fits well to the two perons who are actively interacting in this site.  I think you know whom I have in mind.  OR at least  you can make a guess.  Compared to those two people's arrogance, hypocrisy and superiority complex, the talks of all other people sound too humble and down to earth.  

I've only given my oinion about the present trend in racing anyone getting  offended just because I spoke the truth I care very very less ,it's right time to swallow our pride  and come  down to planet earth and accept the facts of  racing, those who feel uncomfortable just concentrate on your life and refrain from loose talk,this forum gives us the freedom to express our views and debate in a civilised manner as  long as decorum is maintained , if at all any one as the right to reprimand anyone in this forum it's ,the India racing administration ,so take it easy .

HP++,

"once the trains start, it takes 30 days for the normal racing to begin"..  I do not see any link to train movement and horse race!

"the Govt should allow on line betting"..  For races in India, the unofficial on line betting already exists.  They take betting through whatsapp.  Of course in a very small measure.  You want to make that online betting official.  O K.  But, if and when it becomes official, then you have to pay  GST & club commission.  I do not think that will be of much help to punters.

Anyway for your information, currently the train bookings is possible from April 15th.  Will trains actually run or not from April 15 is something for which I have no answer.

Ayyarnet,

You say that Government fleeced horse race punters and now is the time for them to pay back.  Well.  It is your view.  Coronavirus does not discriminate whether one is race punter or not.    On its part, the Government also does not care whether one is a race punter or not while rendering assistance to  Coronavirus patient.

The Government considers the race betting as sin and justifies high amount of tax.  The most sensible response from the public is to avoid betting.  Thereby he need not pay one paisa tax.  If you are aware about the tax scenario and still indulge in betting, then you should not blame  Govt.  

Nowadays majority of punters are betting with bookies.  

Let us not bring in super rich people in this discussion.  The person/s you can compare with are those who are salaried people whose monthly earnings is 40,000 to 2 lakhs.  Suppose you earn 1,00,000/- p m, you should compare your life style and savings with those whose earnings are upto 1,10,000 and who are not race punters.  

The main point is neither the Turf clubs, nor the bookies are extending any invitation to you to bet.  Your betting is voluntary.  The Government & turf clubs ask you to pay the tax & commission.   If you think that such additional charges are too high, then do not bet!  

Convey my appreciation and greetings to your Sindhi friend.

It's  right time for turf club to seek online betting permission from government.  May  they will get. This chance they will never get in recent future.

we punter should get options for online betting like other part of the world.

What horse talker's view? 

I thank you for your opinion about the numbers, now I provide you little statistics obtained from bing.com/covid. I started entering the data from 26.3.2020 at 6:30 PM. and finished today at11: AM and the figures are below.

Date         Global      USA        India   Increase

26.3.20    486592     69219     649

1-4-20      859032    189445   1397    

Increase   1.765        2.736     2.152   

Population (Millions) 327.6     1339.2

% to Global cases     22          0.16     (As on1.4.20)    

 Per Million                578        1.04     (As on 1.4.20)

In between comes all other countries. By observing the glbal trend India took actions to contain the virus spreading.

Hence my conclusions. All these figures are on my worksheet and   any time I can provide the figures the way anybody needs.     

Thank you        

Gone they (32) replies here.Would only say one thing,lot of HYPOCRISY especially by the LIGHTNING  and ARYA

These guys will be the first to stand in front of the race course once racing starts

A bunch of HYPOCRITES

Hello all

Probably this is the appropriate time and situation to conduct online betting in india where racing should happen as per scheduled and no punter allowed inside the racecourse besides the helping staff till we fight with covid 19.

It can surely work . 

Whats your opinion mr. Raghavan sir??

First there is a  misconception   that BTC  closed racing it was the state govt which cancelled permission.

Presently sports activity is the least worry on any ones mind. Till things normalise.

So stop asking BTC  to give a time frame .No one can.Losses to racing are drop in the ocean as compared to some other industry and IPL.

Relax and keep your fingers crossed to control  this  viral

Sri. Raghavan ji

You have missed an important point in my posting. Govt put heavy taxes on winning stakes  Winning is rare for punters and even by chance after winning also they were made to shell out considerable sum. What happened now ? Govt is spending huge un imaginable funds to combat COVID19.  As you sow you reap. This iswhat is called KARMA. If you harm any one in due course of time you will harm your self. Balance of justice will remain equal. This is applicable to all You can see with  your eyes. We have a lesson to learn.

Today savings will be tomorrow safety

You have toset aside certain percentage thinking you have lost in Photofinish  !!

Making money is easy but growing it with adequate manure is very difficult. See the difference between  TATA and AMBANI

Tata opted simple and spending  quite a lot on charity wheras Ambani opted luxury  and see the result !

I am very much grateful to a Sindhi Gentleman. He took to me to an Hospital distributed Oranges and Sweet Lime Fruits to ailing people. Smiles from the ailing people impressed me very much.  I took the clue from him for his prosperity.  This Sindhi Gentleman was a Racing Fan. !!

Regards

ayyarnet

Let alone racing........

...can anyone here even tell me as to when will long distance trains start?All electric supply to the train networrk has been shut off till further notice.This is the 1st time it has happened.

Once the trains  have started it will take at least take 30 days for normal racing to begin..

 Its as simple as that.This is the time Govt shud tnink of having online race betting for some good income..Nows the time..

lightning strikes,

The stake holders that too rogue ones are definitely cursing coronavirus.  Honest ones?  This is gambling sport.  Should not expect honesty here.

(More than 50 years ago, there was a movie.  Mattukkara Velan.  MGR in double role.  In that movie, a girl was molested and the girls father questions Ashokan.  He says to Cho that he came to their house seeking justice.  Cho replies: "Justice?  Here?  You are aking for idli-sambar in a military hotel")

I do not fault those astrologers, numerology experts etc for their failure to predict cancellation of races due to coronavirus.  But, I must mention here one Smart-still-poor-punter.  He said rcing may be put on hold due to Corona virus.  Was pooh poohed for his silly ideas.  But, his prediction proved right after 3 days.

Ksmrow:

I have appealed for boycotting several times at least one day's betting.  But, in my sub-conscious, I was knowing that such appeals will have no takers.  

If the cancellation of races were announced just one day earlier, it would have helped too many punters.  Super Mario & North wind.  Many were bullish on those two horses & both were board out.  Next day they came to salvage at least part of their losses.  But races were cancelled from 13th.

Aravind:

No racing till a vaccine to tame Caronavirus?  Well.  You may be talking most sensibly.  Let us wait & watch.

COVID19 Preventive measure:

Virus is heat sensitive and normal people should drink 5-6 times hot water daily and also drink milk, tea, coffee and any other liquid in hot condition only.

Infective people should inhale hot water steam 5 - 6 times daily inaddition to above stated measure. If they follow this mesure with in 4-5 days their test report will be negative. Thanks.

Abhi bhot bada recession aanewala hai.

Jo hamare baap dada ne bhi nahi dekha hoga. 

Srinivasan,

As per the report in THE HINDU dated 14/03/2020,, the number of cases were 82 and there were 2 deaths.  17 days thereafter, the number of cases and that of death is 20 times that figure.

Should we take comfort from the fact that out of 130+ crore population, the number of cases so far is less than 1500?   In fact I also was thinking that BTC has over reacted when it cancelled March 13 races.  Only when the Mumbai also cancelled the races on 15th, I understood that the covid-19 is a serious threat.  

You say that Covid-19 has affected only a very very small fraction of India's population.  Comparing the cases reported in India with that of America, Italy etc may not be appropriate.  I feel that we should not be complacent on that score.  

Whatever may be the case.  Two view points emerged so far.  (1) races will resume may Mid-May/june.  (2) Absolutely no races till September.

And, I believe that both views will  be having strong supporters.  And I also believe that both views are only guesswork. 

Turf clubs, particularly BTC is duty bound to inform whether they have any plans to start the summer season.  And if their answer is "yes", then they should also mention about the probable date.  Coronavirus threat is there.  But, that does not mean that we will be under house arrest indefinitely.  For good or bad, the BTC should break the silence.

Srikanth,

"The country is in panic and we should not be worrying about 'start' of racing.  Excellent.  But such replies will sound fair only from those who are not punters OR race club staff.   For punters it may be even a blessing in disguise that presently there are no races and there will be no races in near future.  But, I think tote clerks will have an entirely different understanding.

Ayyarnet,

The club/s will not be worried about its bad financial condition.  The men who run the club allowed the 1/2 tax meance for too long a period and were keeping their mouth shut in expecting kickbacks from the bookies.

If the supervisors were strict, the club's balance sheet would have been showing heathy 'reserve'.

And, I do not support your karma theory.   Mistake is mainly from the punters.  If they are betting recklessly, and some trainers/jockeys plan to exploit their indiscretion, then the punters have to blame only themselves.  

Joker:

Right.  For punters there is absolutely no problem if there is no racing.  Of course a small section of punters are feeling like a fish out of water because of the current scenario.

You have saved so far!  Very Good.  Not only you...there are many punters who would have lost if there is racing.  So, you are having a healthy reserve.  Good luck.

Of course there are some crackpots in this site who brag that they enter the race course daily with 500 and come out with over a million in cash.

Deepak Jadam & Kolramsri:

We are concerned about the country as much as any other deshbhakth.  So, we pray "sarve jana sukhino bhavanthu".  BUT, we are also punters!  That is the ground reality.  No escape.  

Hii dear all 

I m 1 of the horse racing lover i dont come most but at big events i go and like every sunday .

And come home happily 

I have posted some of the events my selection and won .

On this regarding covid 19 

Only 1 word 

If your good no need to worry about this .76

Thanks dear all .

Its our safety be at home till the government says .

I honestly just wonder what the Owners, trainers,jockeys and the bookmakers are dwelling or pondering right now, I feel it's the right time to reflect upon the various misdeeds  and exploitation in this sport they have created , and equally feel sorry for the hard working and trusted people who run this sport ,

Should we blame or thank this virus Corona or is this some sort of blessings in disguise, where are all the Astrologers in HT who were predicting planets and stars regards to getting the numbers right not one of them ever stated  that a Virus would come to destroy humans and its system , can this be a reflection to the observing punters in horse racing that most of these hyper or mindreading or spiritual yogees are just a scam , if such was the case that astrology tarrot reading and numerilogy was perfect or true then every punter would have been a millionaire and every bookmaker should have become beggars by now , no need of pedigree history ,books history on breeds or track work or even information just see the stars moon planets be a wizzard in numerology and get the winners and own a 7 star hotel .

Dear Friends it's  time for us to contemplate and embrace a new begining it's the perfect start to a journey of our own destiny , racing is fun and exciting but at the same time could lead us to peril ,it's upto us to decide our own fate , trusting this sport of Horserace is a dishonest scheme it's high time for us to make the right choice money goes to where it comes from ,we find crazy people still missing the fun of losing and winning some grumbling and complaiing and stil some foolishly blaming the virus , the biggest virus is the very sport eating up peoples money and giving them no peace of mind thus eventually destroying the peace and happiness in their homes .

Corona has come at the right moment it's like s clinical surgery to bring this sport to its right perspective, we are all at hybernation now and a clear tbought processing time to clear any passage of il will of wishful thinking on this sport would rather undermine or determine us to hope of this sport , I love  this sport and its filled with lots of entertainment, but the last many years as brought a dent in my mind about Horseracing the trend now days is make as much as money you like swindle as much as you can spin the brains in and out of the racing punter  ,who cares , as long as we buy more Horses , apartments , do real estate business, buy luxury homes , cars and do business like no one cares as long as it's at the mercy of the poor punters slaughter them who cares it's our money our family's interest and future , now ample time for the above said I mentioned will their attitude change will they at least now use their conscience  , the answer will be an ever ending big no  , a million  coronas will come and go.

As per the current senario I don't think racing should start till Corona is wiped out as race course is such a place people will under any circumstances come and do betting. Mainting higine there is impossible. People spit, drink  are there no cleanliness. Plus racing without out betting makes no sense. We can't even afford indoor racing like abroad as we have no online betting system.

And it's common sense mass gathering activities are going to be banned by govt for some time till the issue is resolved. I HOPE when racing starts clubs should should be strict in terms of hygine and cleanliness in the club areas for punters as they keep for the owners areas.

Take care all stay safe till than..

I think by middle of May Race will start in Ooty, Bangalore or in Mysore.  As per indication govt wud not extend lockdown beyond 14th April. In such scenerio 30 days s enough to plan for session starting. But one issue is Rain at Bangalore, Mysore, Ooty by 1st week of June may hamper race days.

Racing is the last item in the list of priorities for government to start. 

There are some good news which we can relate to Racing.

If you consider number of covid-19 cases per million in INDIA stands at 1 and USA (Maximum cases) at 499 other Europian countries stands above 1000 to 3000 (Figures are obtained from Bing.com and Google).

Total lock down of the country will help to bring down the Covid-19 Cases (at the cost of migrent population)

Hydrabad Co. producing test kit for ?1200/-, where as Cheap China kit is about ?4000/-

The Railway bogis are converted into Hospetal (Temporary) and major Automobile Industries manufacturing VENTILATERS. 

From June Mansoon starts and helps to contain the Covid-19 cases.

With all these factors we can expect the racing to start for Jun-20.

In  the  interest of everyone  in  the  country it is better  not  to conduct racing  to prevent  spreading  of  virus.moreover racing  season  has  almost  come  to end with  most  of  the classics  completed across  India.When people are finding it  to  difficult to  meet both ends  meet we  cannot afford  to  throw  lakhs of ruppes in  ring. one  example of govt lapse is organizing  religious  ceremony  in  Delhi .1500   people  carried virus across India who were  part  of this ceremony. it is  better  if racing in all  forms  is  banned  for 3 to 4  months

Friends:

All GST collected gone with the wind. Even the Club with all sponsorship Commission etc.,  financially very bad condition.

Their condition is worse than our puters. Our loss is small recoverable but their loss is huge and unimaginable. cientist Newton said Every Action there will be a Reaction in equal in magnitude but opposite in direction.  Pulling, Pushing, Doosrathey are paying their Karma. Even if te Races are commenced how many of us will have money to bet ? 

We have a lesson to learn 

Regards to all

ayyarnet

M P Reddy,

You are asking my prediction!  Sorry.  I am not jyothishi.

At the most, I can convey only my guess.

My guess is that racing will resume by Mid-May.  Not that Corona threat will go away by then,  There is not any reason for my guess.

As a punter, I do not bother even if the race course remains closed for one full year or more.  In fact I welcome such things.  But, when I think about the hardships of not so famous jockeys, turf club employees and even race book sellers etc, I desire that races should resume asap.

The Government is least bothered about horse race as on date. 

Most experienced?  There are many people who are much clever, shrewd & experienced than myself.

GS & Anushree:

There are many punters who welcome your statements.  Let us see.

Phantom: 

Good. 

If you are under the impression that races will resume only after the scientists discovered anti-coronavirus-vaccine, then races may not resume even during 2022.

Ruchi:

Right.  Let the punters wait for 6 more months.  And more importantly, let the bookies also wait for 6 more months!

Hello Friends,

      Its better to forget about the racing upto June 30th 2020... There may be a chance to postpone the All India Races upto September end 2020... 

      Everyone knows about Corona and no need to explain... Entire world is suffering... Now India entered into 3rd stage... When it will come down... nobody knows... The entire world incl., India facing financial crisis... It takes more time to come out of the present situation... not less than 6 months... 

      So take care my friends... Be healthy... and stay healthy... After 6 months only we may expect regular racing... That is from October 2020... Bye...

Any industry can't be stopped for too many days, be it entertainment, sports or manufacturing because so many people depend on those things for their family survival. Once the ipl , cinema halls, malls are open to public, then racing also will resume. Look at China they have resumed almost all the things.

May first week Ooty will start and early start for pune too. 

Let's wait for the best.

Hi punters

For a change lets be less self centered.

Corona is a mahamaari like the previous Plague  epidemic.

If there is no social distancing, people will b effected n the desth figures might touch more than Italy Spain France n Germany combined. 

By forfeiting racing, we will only lose some enteryainment but think of the millions who will be saved.

Racing has been suspended indefinately in Ireland Great Britain as well as many courses in the US

Lets stay home n safe.

Ps also I have realised I have saved a lot in the onterim which coild be the benevolence=survival fund for many months in the current economic scenario.

CheersThe Joker

Even after the lockdown period there will be no gatherings public meetings cermonies for 6 months so no racing for next 6 months 

As per the news at 8:30 PM, there may be lock down for Three months.

If that is so the events may start at july-2020

Ooty racing is wased-out and Bangalore summer may not start at all.

Impact of Lockdown:

With respect to Indian population in India,

Daily road accident deaths 15, Railway track crossing death daily 10, Silfie daily deaths 10. total 35 death/day. Lockdown period 21 days. 35x21=735.

So life  saved by lockdown 735

Covid 19 deaths as on today 29. Net lives saved 735 - 29 =706.

In addition, Cooling of minds of aggitated people, Envirnoment (vehicular fuel burn), Noise polution controlled. There are good opportunity to clean streets, Roads, Drainage cleaned in Mumbai before on set monsoon. Cleaning staff should be given good protective equipments.

Raghavanji , it depends not only India how & when the other countries controll the corona virus.Lock down may not continue after 14th April as some are predicting and posting in social media.But even after lifting lockdown also, the Government may ask us to follow most of The rules followed in lockdown such as hands washing, wearing masks & especially no mobs gathering ,maintains physical distance (I mean social distance )at least for 3to4 months depending on situation. No mobs gatherings, means No Racing .

Raghavanji ,you seems to be most experienced person in this racing field, we will wait for  ur forcosting of this date.

Hello All..

Here I am At Ooty seen few horses have reached Ooty Race Course and also the Rails were prepared to setup..There Is No any Official Notice or Course was not yet prepared  fully...
144 act has been imposed in Tamilnadu So There is no any official Racecourse Work..
Hoping The Ooty Season Will Began At End Of April or in Early May..

Thanks

Stay Home Stay Safe

Regards

Just pray to GOD, that civil commotion does not explode into the unmanageable level, resulting in large scale death due to curfew. Do the Govt have resources to feed the general public, who have no source of income by remaining indoors. Country heading for very very serious trouble.

Country is in bad Condition no need of racing my dear punters 

Racing will commenced in the month of may. 

Forget racing till 2021. Govt has announced financial schemes for next 3 months like free ration and cash doles. All caual workers can benefit from it. Racing Industry heading for doomsday unless another sea Biscuit in the horizon.

Cruise Bangalore,

There may be no official ban.  Even I also has not used that word in my narration.  That word appears only in heading.

You say races may commence in June.   May be you are right.  Of course, Coronavirus has to be tamed by then.   If the world/India is not able to stop the spread of Corona virus, then June also seems doubtful.

Let us see what happens.  My letter was only to highliht the plight of many non punters who depend on races.

All punter can do now is just wash hands and read news online, again wash hands and have food, then wash hands and go sleep....

I feel the earlist thst racing will resume , will be by SEPTEMBER, definitely not earlier to that

Hello Raghavan,

No ban has been enforced on horse racing. It is just that racing was forced to be called off to contain the spread of corona virus.

Not sure when racing will resume but one thing is for sure that it will not happen in next 2 months.

If we are lucky to escape the 3rd stage of the spread ( of Covid-19 ) then the possibility of resuming by June is possible.

regds,
Cruis