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About Handicap , How Do We Learn ??

By Gt | 04-Apr-2020

It's a request to our senior who can show us the method of handicapping  and the working ways, which will help all those who are not aware and in such times can learn to apply for better results. No in a single post but by a tutorial format which can be followed and also raise qst n concerns , someone who can teach us in a easy simplest applicable understandable format please. 

 

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Sun said ...

16-Apr-2020

@Chanakya 

My interest in this race is 2  fold One the Rating which Handicapper will allot as it carried 7Kg and whether it can be treated as Weights Raised as in a Handicap race Or being Terms Race the Weight Raise is ignored. 
Secondly the comparison of time clocked with other Maidefns Race

Glasgow Prince said ...

16-Apr-2020

Friends, the drage effect of weight has another angle to it. The drag effect of a unit of weight increases as the weight carried by the horse increses. My experience is that the drag effect becomes more pronounced when the horse carries 55 kg and higher.

Chanakya Kaushik said ...

15-Apr-2020

@ Sun,

I don't  understand  the 'intensity'  of  your  interest in  this  ordinary  race. However  following  are  the  details asked  by  you.

Race  147: The  Willingdon Sports  club Trophy.

The  terms  are:

 

for  Indian  horses  3 year  old  only

weights- colts & geldings  50kg.; fillies 48.5kg.

Penalties:winner  of  1  race 3kgs, winner of  2  races  5 kgs., winner  of  3  or  more races 7kgs.

N.B. : If  the  top  weighted acceptor  is  below  57 kg. it  shall  be  raised  to  57  kg. and  the  weights  of  other  acceptors  shall  be  raised  relatively

that is  all.

Sun said ...

14-Apr-2020

@ Chanakya,

With quite a good years of Racing I do know that in Classics irrespect of a horse's previous performances it is set to carry Fixed Weight as per Terms.This is OK when a 2/3 year old is into its second season.But Poonawalla Breeder's Multimillion is run within few month's of its career and we find Penalty for Wins like in Rno 122.May be time to look at Terms.Perhaps the race is an incentive for owners who purchase a good breed anumal for astronomical sums to recover part of their investment.Is this statement is supported by Facts?Perhaps ITR can throw some light.

Regarding Rno 147 I down loaded and looked at Prospectus but nothing is mentioned there and  a Remark "To be Published later".If I go to Archives for 16th Feb I could bot see Terms of Race for this 3 Year Olds Race.Kindly share the Page where Terms of this race are published

Thanks.

Chanakya said ...

14-Apr-2020

@Ksmrow,

your  13/4  3.55 pm  refers...

I presume , (may  be  wrong?)  that the  data  given  by  you  pertains  to  US tracks  or other  foreign  tracks...

I also understand  that  to  compensate  for  a 'unit distance' called 'beaten  length'-  1/2  length  is  taken  as the standard unit.  To  compensate  for  the  beaten lengths the weight  relationship  to these beaten  length is given  by  the  formula - 1 kg  for 1000&1100M,, 1.5 kg for 1200m,2 kg for 1400m , reaching 4  kg  for  2400m...

In US most  races aare  run  on  dirt tracks which  are  faster  than the  turf  tracks of  that  country. Moreover, they  don't  run 'wating' races as are  run  in  India,. the  'pace' in  those  races does  not  vary  more  than  10 to  15% from  begining till last lap,while  in  india all route  races  are run 'sincerely'only  in  last  1000m or  600m...

Therefore  this scale  can  not  be  used  in  Indian  racing.  However we  can  always    learn something  from  this  data by  combining  it  with our  experience...

 

 

Gt said ...

13-Apr-2020

Dear Gentlemen ,

Thanks so much to each and every one, very kind of you to share your experience and thoughts on handicapping, 

Am a race lover, this would help us all for picking better winners, 

Appreciate ...... : )

Sun said ...

13-Apr-2020

My feeling is that the Drag Values in the book may be applicable to Foreign Horses.

For us a Simple Working for knowing Time per 1/2Kg can be arrived at by Dividing Time Clocked by Body Weight of Horse plus Handicap.

Further Drag effect on a 0-20 Clas horse and a 80+ Class horse are not same just as it is not same for 1000 Mrs and 2000 Mtr.

If we take the Body Weight of individual horses it becomes difficult to Normalise and hence I take 450 Kg at all centres except Mumbai&Pune where the Min Bottom Weight being 49 Kg I take Body Weight as 451 Kg .So at bottom Weights we come to a round figure of 1000 (in 1/2 Kg Units)

@ Chanakya  Regarding my other query I think the race was open to Foreign Horses and hence the Weight is raised as if a foreign horse were to run.May be a look at Prospectus may throw some light.For that we have down load and go to that page cumbersome.In other Web Sites you can directly go to the Prospectus for a Race Day.

 

Chanakya Kaushik said ...

13-Apr-2020

@ Ksmrow,

Thanks  for  the  clarification.

 

@Sun,

 Weights  in Terms  races are  assigned  as  per  the  terms  of   the  race irrespective of  the  fact, whether  a  runner  is  a  winner  or  a  maiden. For  example  in  a  Derby colts  & geldings  are  assigned 57 kgs. while  fillies  are given  55.5 kgs.( sex  allowance of  15 kgs.) which  makes a  winner  of  2  or 3  races with  rating  of  70  or  80  to  carry  same  weight  as  a  non-performer of  class  IV who  has also  accepted  to  run. It  is  not  unfair, because  the  'terms'  of  race is  known  to  the  connections who  still  want  to  run  their  'weak' entry  for  the  race...

your  first  point. The  terms  of  race 147 says -  colts &  geldings  to  carry  50 kgs. and  fillies  to  carry  48.5 kgs. ; with  a  note ' if  top  weighted  acceptor is  below  57 kg. it  shall  be  raised  to  57  kg. and other  acceptors  shall  be  raised relatively'.

The  top acceptor's  weight  at  declaration  was  originally  50 kg because  it  was  a  non-winner and  therfore the weights  were  'raised'  by  7  kgs. for  all  acceptors. I hope  I've clarified your  doubt.      

Ksmrow said ...

13-Apr-2020

@CHANAKYA,

Wrong understanding by me not in the line of original extract     for-sprint,mile,intermediate,Long,Extended took as

[upto1200;upto1600;upto2000;up to 2400;2600&above].

 Generally applied scale to losing margins or in length 0.5 beaten margin as half a length for 1000 to 1100 mts weight reduction of 1kg horse can cover up1/2length and for 1200mts horse needs 1.5kg reduction to cover up beaten margin so on was my view.

 

         Beaten Margin

       up to 0.5

   1.......1000 to 1100

   1.5......1200

  2.........1400

  2.5..... 1600

   3........1800

  3.5.....2000

  4........2400

  4.5.....2800

  5........3000

 

Now read original extract below and come to your own conclusion 

 

DRAG EFFECT OF WEIGHT

   

  Generally applied scale to losing margins

 Sprint

M ile

Intermediate

Long

Extended

up to 1200m

up to 1700m

up to 2200m

up to 2600m

beyond 2600m

1 to 2

1

1

1

1

 3

2

2

2

 1

5

3

3

2

2

6

4

3

3

2

7

5

4

3

2

8

6

5

4

3

9

7

5

4

3

10

8

6

5

3

11

9

7

5

4

12

10

8

6

4

         Beaten Margin

       up to 0.5

   1

   1.5

  2

  2.5

   3

  3.5

  4

  4.5

  5

  Measurement of beaten margins expressed in units of 0.5 kg.

With the knowledge of the effects of weight over different race distances it is possible to equate the margin of victory or defeat as a measure of weight.

The application of simple mathematics to any race result whereby a race rating is allotted based on (1) the actual weight carried by a horse (2) less the weight value of the margin of defeat. This gives every horse an actual 'weight value' for his performance in that race.

Once these relative weight values have been determined for each horse in a race the handicapper now uses his judgement to effectively quantify the overall value of the race.

appreciate your comments.

 

 

Sun said ...

13-Apr-2020

@ Chanakya

I could not understand ksmrow's post on this aspect but for your query my working taking 1L as 0.18 Secs the Weight Equivalents are

1000 to 1100    1.5Kg

12 to 14             Slightly More than 1 Kg

16                      1 Kg

While on the techinicalities of Haandicapping I have a doubt and hope you can throw somelight.

RNO 147 of Mumbai  No doubt it is a Terms Race but all horses participating were maidens then why Weight Raise of 7 Kg

Poonawall Breeders Million Race A Winner of 2 races and a Maiden carry same weight.One may say it is as per Terms of Race but is it not an Unfair Competetion?

Thanks.

Chanakya said ...

12-Apr-2020

@Ksmrow,

your 7/4/20, 9.59am post,

The information  you  have  posted  is  good  and informative and  a  beginner  as  well  as  an  experienced  punter  can  benefit  from  it.

I've  a  doubt or  a  problem  with the  drag  effect  of  weight.  you  have  used  a scale of  0.5 for  beten  margin which  is  normally  given  in  lengths.

1  for  1000 & 1100

2  for  1400 etc. 

My  query  is :

Is  1 length = 0.5  kgs.  for  100m & 1100m and  2 kgs.  is  to  be  tken  for  1400m?

please clarify. 

 

Pds said ...

12-Apr-2020

Dear friends,

I am doing this business of handicapping, racing, training my own horses and on top of all doing serious punting for the last 55 years and am ok with it.I would like to give you one very important piece of advise, which I think non of my very experienced and knowledgeable friends have brought out and that is the crux of the whole sab cheese. You can learn any amount of theory and all the knowledge about horses, breeding, preparation, handicapping, jockeys, trainers, owners and all the tricks of the trade incl bookies and big punters/ mafia etc etc, but ultimately your betting technique is the most importat requirment, you have to master it, other wise it is the same sob story. Here in, every race you are playing, you have to mentally work out and calculate how not to lose and be safe also and winner too. If you cant do that leave that race and you will be fine. Just ponder on this point and come back with comments and you will realize every thing.  Good luck take care.

Ksmrow said ...

12-Apr-2020

Posted by ksmrow On : May 15, 2013

Subject :BANGALORE 3YR OLD RATINGS

We can asses 2/3 yrolds potential after one or two runs for that you must synchronize time clocked and able to read the race properly from all angles, after youngster runs once twice or thrice we can get basic strength of youngster from there further improvement possible unless a set back in training, injury or any physical disorder. If we can transform basic strength into rating we can see where the youngster stands in open class races. One who believes timing clocked by horse is yardstick to measure its potential. For those interested in rating of Bangalore based 3yrolds here is my workoutlist.

1.CzarofRomance(77)

2.MiracleMemories(75)-

3.Albertino(72)

4.Murioi(69)

5.Valerion(65)

7.Apparition(64)

8.Jerseyshore(64)

9.Ace Bucephalus(64)

10.Turf Striker(63)

11.Perfect Soul(63)

12.Strengthand Wonder(60)

13.Striking(60)

14.SolitaireRoyale(60)

15.Artorius(60)

16.Agostini(60)

17.Duma(61)

18.Alcazaba(59)

19.Lightofsuccess(58)

20.Cristoffe(57)

21.WindSurfer(57)

22.RoyalSalute(57)

23.Aumento(56)

24.Isn’tshespecial(56)

25.aceangelstar(56)

26.Charlatan(55)

27.Sunglow(55)

28.Chevad’or(57)

29Surlatete(55)

30.ManofVision(54)

31.Cashmyway(54)

32.Kafika(54)

33.Boronzino(57)

34.Scarleto’Hara(54)

35.AbsolutePleasure(54)

36.ForeverHonour(53)

37.RoyalSarot(53)

38.Strombolite(53)

39.Mantara(53)

Ksmrow said ...

12-Apr-2020

@SUN, Thanks, yes  we can  do that what you said in fact attempted to give my rating to 3yr olds based on their potential time(sync time)In the years 2013 and2015 just before Bangalore summer meetings in the HORSE TALK THREAD.To be frank I never look at official handicappers ratings other than terms races we should understand their limitations guided by certain parameters and they have to work with in that.

Sun said ...

11-Apr-2020

@Ksmrow,

 Hats off to you for succintly explaining all the Factors in Handicapping.In your post you referred to Phil Bull Timeform.Longtime back I picked a Timeform Book which I think is a Weekly Publication and gives Rating of all horse after a Week's Racing.You compare the Current Rating with the Published(Running Rating) Rating of Race Card to make a choice.Can we attempt such a Rating for the horses running.Here I am not referring to Official Ratings but a Rating which takes into account the Times Clocked on a Standard Scale and Weight&Distance Handicapping.Your views please.

Sun said ...

11-Apr-2020

@GT (Continuation)

 For assesing the Quality Factors you must be able to read the mind of Owner/Trainer that means you have to be a Psychologist.Whether a horse will be tried to upset the Favourite calls for a Good Handicapping and Risk-Return analysis that goes in the minds of Owner/Trainer.If the horse at Longer Odds tried and loses by a Whisker the Penalty it gets may jeopardize its chance for the entire season.

To analyse like this after good Mathematical Ground work is the crux of the problem and that is why many people are losers.They may bet huge amounts on Favourites and Lose&Bet only a small amount on an Upset This goes on and finally they conclude Racing is losing proposition.

Whenever a Favourite Loses most people say that the horse was not tried with Half Knowledge Handicapping.This can go on.

Thanks.

 

Sun said ...

11-Apr-2020

@GT

 By this time you must have got an iidea of Handicapping.In myview there seems to be lot of confusion in Handicapping&Winner Picking.To me Handicapping can be viewed as Science while Winner picking is Art applying Quantifiable and Qualifiable Factors.The Post of Ksmrow is the best one to get an idea of Handicapping.It calls for lot of Data Collection and Preparing suitable Models for arriving at Empirical Values for elements of Data.What I mean is as Ksmrow has explained the increase in Weight will delay a horse but it may not be a Linear Equation.Similarly the delay in Time for 1/2Kg is not same for all distances.We need lot of Data Points for each horse which may come about over a period of Time but by that time horse's fitness might have changed.So it is only Approximation that can be arrived at.

Qualifiable Factors are too many but we have to presume that they are not there otherwise we cannot pick any horse.If a factor like Interference comes into Play we have to consider it as bad luck (To be continued)

Chanakya said ...

11-Apr-2020

@ GT,

Handicapping is  a  method  to  analyse and  assess the  various  factors  or  parameters which  affect  the  performance  of  the  runner of  a  race  and then  compare  these  with  other  runners  of  the  race and  then  try  to  find  out  the  best from  the  bunch...

It  is  not  possible  to master or even understand  it well  by  few sessions or within few  days  or few  months - even  now,  in this  computer  age. Yes  'learning' is  possible within these  periods but  I'm  sure  that  is  not  your  aim. Your  aim  is  to  use  the  learning  to make  a  profit  from  the  game.

Crk, Abbas and  few  others have  given some  useful  points to begin  with. My  advice will be to understand first  what  handicapping  is  with  the  help  of  books,free or paid  tutorials, freely  avalable  info  from  the internet and by  doing  'home-work' later on this information  and  data...

 Some  books which  may help  are : 'A tresury  of  American turf' by Henry  Bomze, Bhutaney's  book  on  Indian  racing, Ray  Taulbot's  books and  few  more you  can  pick  up  from  Amazon.com. But  remember - these  books  or articles on  the  net  help  only  in  understanding  the  game , do not provide the  winners!

Finally, in  this  game  learning  is  a  never  ending process;  because  NOW   it  is  managed and  CONTROLLED  by 'get  rich  quick' teams  at  most  if  not  all racing  centers - WORLDWIDE,  not  only  in  India- that  is  Bharat...

 

Pds said ...

10-Apr-2020

@GT,  I hope I dont rub the wrong side of some of the good and experienced Race lovers and handicappers by being little out spoken when I offer my comments on the gambit of handicapping for Horse Racing. I very strongly feel that a good handicapper must be:

1) Quite well educated and an intelligent person.

2) The person should be good at maths. 

3) He should be a flexible and quick thinker.

4) He should be very serious about learning all the nuts and bolts of Horse Racing and various betting techniques, training techniques and all sorts of tricks of the trade( this will need lots of time and effort and is the most important and difficult part of Horse Racing)

5) Must start with a very moderate budget till you are confident of your self. Always have good control on your self.

6) Attend some good coaching classes, a number of courses are conducted in cities like Mumbai from time to. time. Look for that

7) There are quite a few points brought out by Sunddar and other writers in previous columns, you can take those also for guidence.

8) Extremely difficult job if you want to do it well and successfully. You be prepared to work hard.

Good luck

Abbas J said ...

08-Apr-2020

Hello All,

Some thoughts about Handicapping the race

Form

A "sharp" horse could have finished strongly, stayed among the leaders, finished “in the money” (1st, 2nd or 3rd) or recovered from a bad racing trip. Conversely, a horse showed dull form if it gave up, looked sluggish or chased the pack. Horses with sharp form have the lowest odds and hence return the least money per bet. Also, often horses will race off a "layoff." A layoff is a rest varying in length from usually two months to a year or more. In this case, workouts, horse appearance, and trainer patterns are the best guides to whether the horse is ready to run after a rest.

Class

Horse races occur at different levels of competition. Generally, high caliber horses are entered in races with other high caliber horses and slower horses are entered in races with other slower horses. But a horse can move up or down in class, depending on where the trainer decided to enter the horse based on the results of its last race. Note that the strength of the same class of race, such as a Maiden Special Weight race, will vary greatly from track to track, as well as from race to race at the same track, making this too an inexact determinant of class.

Post-position or draw

The horse nearer the inside of a race track will have a shorter distance to run than a horse on the outside track, although it is also more vulnerable to being cut off by horses that start off faster and head to the inside rail.

Jockey

A better jockey can make a difference between a winning horse and one that loses.

Other factors

Other factors affecting the outcome of a race are track condition, weather, weight that the horses have to carry, daily bias of the racing surface, and many more factors that the handicapper cannot know. The track condition is closely linked to the weather as rain/snow and the amount of sun affect the firmness of the turf or the condition of the dirt. A wet track is usually denoted as "sloppy". There are cases however when a roller is run over a wet track (if the rain has stopped) and such a track is denoted "sealed". It is difficult to measure some factors with data.

Ksmrow said ...

07-Apr-2020

This not my own may be useful to interested in handicapping,

Handicap is a race in which the weights to be carried by the horses entered are adjusted by the handicapper for the purpose of equalising.

HANDICAPPING - Art or Science ?

A bit of both - It can never be an exact science because OPINION as well as FACT is involved.” According toLate Phil Bull TIMEFORM  fame,

WHAT IS HANDICAPPING REALLY?

As the name suggests, handicapping on merit means that a horse's allocated weight in a race will have been earned by the measurement of his previous performances. This means that the revealed ability of the animal is the primary basis for determining his handicap rating.

If we take a human example,

Assume Man A runs against Man B over a distance of 100 metres.

Both have a good start and Man A beats Man B by 10 metres.

Next Man B runs against Man C and wins by 10 metres.

So when A and C line up the result should be predictable:

On available evidence A should beat C by 20 metres, all other things being equal. Now if A carries some weight and races against B - there is a dead heat.

To get the same result when A meets C, it requires A to carry twice the weight.

 MERIT THEORY

If A beats B by 10 metres, and B beats C by 5 metres

Then what would the “handicap” be?

If it is known that 5 kg stops the average runner by 5 metres then on ‘MERIT’, the Weights in a merit handicap would look something like:

A carries 15 kg B carries 5 kg C carries nothing

Predicting who wins is not straightforward - the runners are now “COMPETITIVE”

 VARIABLES

  To complicate the example further the distance can be increased from

100 metres to 400 metres.

A will have a problem: the weight on his back will slow him down more and more the further he runs. So to achieve the same result as over 100 metres, the weight on his back will have to be reduced.

But what if B and C are much better suited to 400 metres than to 100 metres, and A cannot run that far at all?

In other words a change of distance could create circumstances for which historical information related to the old distance cannot be used.

Some horses are better suited to certain distances than others. Some carry weight better, because of age or build. Some cope better when the ground is soft, others only when it is hard. Add to these other factors such as the horse’s well-being, fitness, race tactics, jockeyship etc. and the size of the problem of handicapping a race faced by the handicapper becomes clearer.

 MERIT HANDICAPPING

Merit Handicapping involves rating adjustments based on FACTS as well as

JUDGEMENTS.

Facts are:

? The actual weight differences between the horses.

? The actual margins between horses at the end of a race.

? The drag effect of weight over different racing distances.

Judgements include:

? Did he get a fair start?

? Did he have to race wide?

? Was the pace of the race true or false?

? Was the horse impeded during the race?

? How did the horse act in the going?

? Was the horse racing over a suitable distance?

? Was a large margin of victory truly representative of his superiority?

Hence, Merit Handicapping is a method of allocating weight impediments to equalise the chances of horses, based on measurable facts in conjunction with the interpretation of race results.

    ANSWER:

EQUALISING CHANCES of COMPETITORS

  What is Handicapping really?

   

 MEASURING MERIT

The measurable factors are the actual weight that the horse carries, the margin of victory or defeat, the drag effect of weight over different racing distances and the age of a horse.

Some non-quantitative factors, subject to interpretation by the handicapper, are things like the quality of opposition, the pace of the race, the effect of having raced wide, being hindered during the running, the impact of the going and the apparent well-being of the animal.

Of the measurable factors the drag effect of weight needs explanation. It is apparent that it is more difficult to carry weight the further one goes. In horse racing it is generally accepted that one kilogram slows a horse down by one length over one mile (1600 metres). Distances shorter than this necessitate the allocation of more weight to achieve the same one length 'drag' on a horse whilst less weight is required over longer distances.

DRAG EFFECT OF WEIGHT

  Generally applied scale to losing margins

   Beaten Margin

   up to 0.5

   1.......1000 to 1100

   1.5......1200

  2.........1400

  2.5..... 1600

   3........1800

  3.5.....2000

  4........2400

  4.5.....2800

  5........3000

  Measurement of beaten margins expressed in units of 0.5 kg.

With the knowledge of the effects of weight over different race distances it is possible to equate the margin of victory or defeat as a measure of weight.

The application of simple mathematics to any race result whereby a race rating is allotted based on (1) the actual weight carried by a horse (2) less the weight value of the margin of defeat. This gives every horse an actual 'weight value' for his performance.

In general term's sprinters mature more quickly than stayers, and the scale takes this into account. From a handicapping point of view the immaturity factor must be taken into consideration when assessing a young horse's performance, and where necessary the appropriate compensation should be credited.

ADJUSTMENTS TO RATINGS

In merit handicapping a horse's rating is adjusted based on performance. There is no arbitrary or standard penalty.

 In handicap races it can be assumed that the winner has 'beaten the handicap' and as such his performance will not be used as the yardstick to rate the race.

Vinay. Gowda said ...

06-Apr-2020

Dear GT,

Will give you one Kohinoor secret to handicapping. Buy or download race card. Don't attend the course and never check the results. Just select a horse you want to bet and SCRATCH or underline it. Do these for one whole season. Check the results at the end of the season.

Rules to be followed scrupulously.

1. No cheating 

Check the percentage of your winnings if it is 50% and above irrespective of odds you are eligible to swim in Ocean. 

You decide which centre you want to bet, which class, etcetera..

 

Kingsfork said ...

06-Apr-2020

Vinay.Gowda

What's wrong with you? are you ok? why you act like stupid!. we are here to share our experiences that’s it, if you don't agree it's ok, No one forcing you to agree with me.

 

Why Are you so personal? Do you want know about me then google my name, you will get all my details? or If you have any other wish let me know.

 

Vinay.gowda said ...

06-Apr-2020

Kingsfork,

From all the merit centres you have chosen Delhi and Mysore it shows how much serious you and your selections are.

I am dumb or not have already proved in some contest. I don't know for which state you are king I think you are the only citizen in your country where you have yourself crowned King. Well it doesnt matter..I suggest you to read my post clearly , did you post the topic if not then why you are offended? It shows your IQ.  Ohhhh you are upset about  scratching...I think you have forgot mention scratch till it turns into gangrene or it turns into cancer like you have already done... Please for godsake don't give scratching advice to anyone one might not know what to scratch and try scratching other things...... Enjoy quarantine days... Be safe -  playsafe - song and dance -  don'tbreaktherules- Mr HANDsome.

Santosh Kumar said ...

06-Apr-2020

what is the method of hadicaping 

Heera said ...

06-Apr-2020

Hi PKB,

I mean everyone is not perfect in handicapping. Hence everyone is loser in this subject.

I terms of losing money or not, is sometimes you win and some time you lose.

 

Regards

Heera

 

 

Crk said ...

06-Apr-2020

GT,

I would suggest that you buy...BETTING THOROUGHBREDS by STEVEN DAVIDOWITZ, second edition, 1997. A very useful book to serve as an introduction to learn, assimilate and put into practice. One may think such an old edition book would not be relevant to the present day racing, trust me, nothing is more further from the truth. Playing blindly without understanding the basics is harakiri;Guaranteed failure and just a matter of time. !   An investment in good racing books and the requisite time in learning would be a good first step. Let no one tell you otherwise.

Meanwhile, i would also recommend you to look up a free website...PRACICAL PUNTING, an Australian racing website, wherein lot of articles on practically all aspects of racing can be read. These articles are by senior racing experts and really worthwhile.  

Do these two things, and hopefully, you may be in a position to answer such queries later on. 

A word of caution... There is no guarantee of success, but you may score a healthy percentile! SureLy GT, you know what I mean!

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 Happy Reading.

Seetharama Rao said ...

06-Apr-2020

SN0.1.    TO READ RACE RATING WHICH MEASURES THE QUALITY OF THE HORSES WHICH COMPETE IN A RACE, HIGHER NUMBER IS BETTER.

SN0.2. CLASS RATING WHICH MEASURES THE ACTUAL PERFORMANCE

IN A RACE, HIGHER NUMBER IS THE BETTER PERFORMANCE.

3. PERFORMANCE:  TO READ CAREFULLY TWO OR THREE MONTHS.

4. RATING 80 AND ABOVE IS GOOD FOR SELECTION.

DSEETHA RAMA RAO

Vinay.gowda said ...

06-Apr-2020

Kingsfork, 

Out of all the merit centres you have chosen  Delhi and Mysore it shows your IQ Lolz.

Basic steps to select a horse? That too from you?  You are so dumb to even read simple english leave aside racecard. Did you post the topic? You are too dumb to get admission to kindergarten... Get a life... 

Sirf Naam rakhney se koi raja nahi banjaatha !..

Vamshi Krishna said ...

05-Apr-2020
I totally agree with L. Shyam Sunddar posting.

Good Luck. 

Pkb said ...

05-Apr-2020

Sir Heera sir everything is ok  but please explain every punters are looser overall how

Kingsfork said ...

05-Apr-2020

Vinay.gowda

Do something better & show off your smartness.

you are so dumb, you don't know. these are basic steps to shortlist the real contender.

First, learn reading the race card then teach me.

Anil Xk said ...

05-Apr-2020

If you are so eager to learn handicapping, join for any courses conducting by RWITC .

But it is better to read and re read race book thoroughly, at the least two books before jumping into betting.

Vinay.gowda said ...

05-Apr-2020

Kingsfork,

You forgot to mention scratch your head after scratching all the horses in book. Lolz. 

If you have not had any skill then you would have not found this passage and posted your boring topic. 

Pretending to be dumb is more dangerous than being dumb..

Heera said ...

05-Apr-2020

Hi GT,

We don't have any authorized handicapper from punter group. You don't expect any thing from punters because all are loosers.

It is better if you keep yourself from this study....I am in racing from the past 10 years done all kind of studies. Came across owners, cutters etc It's waste of time.

Learning by loosing money is waste of life. Please don't do this.

The best way is follow only five horses from each center and play till it Win.

Regards

Heera

Kingsfork said ...

05-Apr-2020

HORSE FORM & ON JOBBER  FOR DEL/MYS

1-SCRATCH (A) SHOES  ON MONEY TO CURRENT (S) SHOES

2-SCRATCH NEVER PLACED UP TO 3RD WITH (S) SHOES

3-5YR & OLD NOT PLACED UP TO 3RD IN-HOME DISTANCE, HECK INDIA RACE.COM FOR HOME DISTANCE. IF DIFFERENT HOME DISTANCE SCRATCH

4-KEEP ON WITH (S) SHOES

5-NO COUNT  CURRENT MONTH LAST YEAR PERFORMANCE

6-NO AGE RESTRICTION HERE

7-SCRATCH 5YR & OVER NOT ON HOME DISTANCE BUT ON IN OTHER DISTANCE

8-SCRATCH LOST BY 15 LENGTH & OVER

9-NO COUNT BEYOND LAST 5 RUNS

10-PREFER RECENT RUN AGAINST RUNNING AFTER LONG GAP

11-PREFER A SHOES AGAINST s SHOES

 

12-BANGLORE & HYDERABAD HORSES RUNNING AT MYSORE DEDUCT 300 FROM RACE TOTAL TIME WHEN COMPARING EXAMPLE;1600MTR CLOCKED 10346 -300=10046.

REMAINING HORSES DO HANDICAP OR  NUMEROLOGY ETC.

PLACING MAY BE CERTAIN BUT WINNING REQUIRED GREAT LUCK.

FOR OTHER CENTER WILL POST IF NEEDED.

L. Shyam Sunddar said ...

05-Apr-2020

Dear Mr. GT, 

 Racing is a game of skill and intelligence, Each person uses his/her own intelligence and theory from the previous records of each horse. On the other side of Racing, it's a liscenced gambling and there is no specific or approved method to learn about racing handicaps. All the seniors are still learning to choose the winner. It's a better option to learn racing out of your own interest and intelligence from the previous results and the present data about the horses in the race card. You can go for racing as a hobby or out of passion but not in the sense to make money. If your expectations are to become a millionaire, then you have to be a billionaire. But still there are many sites in the internet. Just to give you a hint, You have to follow up the timing clocked for each horse at a given distance with the given weight. Now it's upto your interest, skill and intelligence. And a sincere advice is to learn anything from your own interest and experience is the best method. 

Cruise_b'lore said ...

04-Apr-2020

Hello folks,

First and foremost, one needs to acquire a working knowledge of bloodline ( pedigree ).

Those serious in acquiring the same may go to indianstudbook.com and buy the latest publications.

Without bloodline knowledge it would be akin to feeling around your way in a dark alley.

regds,
Cruise