@C

Minimum bet would be atleast 10k, per horse.  Good luck to you for finding middle level person.  I think they are giving login facility to enter bet yourself too.

@ D.D.,

good information. I can up  it  to  5k or  10K each  bet but  not  more becuause  I  believe  in  a  'spread'  betting and  not on  one  or  2 bets  of  the  day. Any  way  I'll find  some  middle  level person... 

The online system by bookies is almost complete and subject to one final test. It is an app, but sadly the name of the app will only be known by the person who is in their circle.  And even if you know the name of the app, without login you cannot enter the system.  And unlike other apps, there is no system of self login, rather it will done only by the adminstrator read bookie.

And certainly 2000 bet is not welcomed.

Dear  C   These bookies were known as Bahare   Wale and were line operators They do not deal with retail punters but only   with   bookies.

They do have very big punters . The problem is they do not accept small bets  even from bookies

Now i wonder who will decide the rates some may play with illegal bookies but be rest assured will be taken for a ride with false favs.

So better to just enjoy the racing however the recent spurt   may lead to postponmen t   further

golden  viper,

 you  said 2 bookies  zre  also setting  up the  system. Are  they from  Mumbai or  Delhi? Are  they  stall bookie or  'outsiders'? will they accept  5000/10,000 bets also or  will  only  deal  will quarter, half or  full peti.

I hope  without disclosing them  you  can  answer  the  questions...

Dr. Bashaar & G. V. ,

Now  you will realise how this faithfull d.. is  spewing stupid  lies  and  twisted  half-truths continuously on  my threads. He  has  been HOUNDED  OUT from  another  forum where  he is  unwelcome and  debarred since  last  one  and  a  half  months. Not  a single post  from him  has  been  accepted and he  has  been called  a  virus and  by  many  other names not  worth  mentioning  here.

Why  should  I  waste  my  time  in  interacting  with a debarred  and  rejacted person who  himself  admits  that  even  after  4  decades of  trying he  failed continuously to  win  and  squandered  away  money on which  his  family had  the  first  claim...

Golden Viper and Dr Bashaar,

It seems both of you are tired of talks between Chanakya and myself.

I know he is the non stop liar, and I exposed him. 

However, I had asked him some searching questions and subjected him to intense cross examination for the past 3/4 years.  There must be not less than 400 posts from my side and he has replied to all.  

I am happy that he has not bombarded this site with his half baked knowledge in numerology.  

Now he is trying to laugh at me for my loss in the races.  As if he has made a fortune out of that.  He has confessed that he lost close to 10 lakhs in three decades of race betting.  Certainly he must be a loser, much higher amount than myself.

Of course, he has used this forum to sing praises for himself.  I punctured his pride balloon and he is in red hot rage.  He is from Army, but the Majesty, leadership and dashing dynamism expected of ex-army men is woefully absent in his talks.  

Now he has finally decided to not to reply to my posts. Good riddance.

@ Dr. Bashaar,

I understand  your  pointand  I  know  you  had  been visiting  this  site  at least  since  last  few  years. But  why  did  you  fail  to  notice  that  this  man follows me  like  a  faithful dog everywhere. I claim to  be  a winner and  proved  it in my  various posts  since 2015  in  this  forum. This  man claims  to  be  a confirmed loser - as  per  his  own  admission (not  my  imagination) who  could  not learn  racing  in  4 decades  of  his  active  participation.  Isn't it  his  frustration against  proven  winners , which is  sendinding  him  to  the  path  of  'no return'.

If  your  doctorate  is  not academic,  then  you  must  be  a  professional doctor  and  I hope you will help him  to  recover  his  sanity and don't  follow  me  with  his  tail  down. I've  never started any  dialogue with  him but  will  never let  him  go  loose if he  tries  to spread  lies and dis-information about  me and will  trail  him  till  gates  of  hell. Regarding  my  postings on  the tips  thread of  this  forum I must clarify that I've  been  doing  this  since,perhaps, more  than  20 years and  will  carry  on. The  records from  Jan'17 till date  are  still   available. Everybody  has  still  40  to  50 days  spare  time and  can  search  and  analyse  the correctness  or  the  falsehood  of  my  claim...   

bookies will not opeate because there will be no punters allowed.  till atleasr end of th e year.

As per my small bookie 2 big time ones are setting up online betting system.

Will it be legal  or not is the main question. They maydo awaywith 10%  charges but a small token fee  will be charged  It is reserved only for their big the clients

golden  viper,

Yes,  online  betting  will become  a  reality  over  a  period  of  time, but will  it  succeed and  increase  the  revenue, with  the  current tax & commission structure, for govt. and the  club is  a  moot  point. Bookies  can  not  be  wished  away till  it  becomes unviable for  them  to  carry  on  business with  their  clients.

My system  will  work  successfully, though  the returns  may  vary; whether  bookies are present  or  absent.

I've  already  discarded  the  other  one from  my  response  circuit. You  may  advise  him  to  'grow up', because  he  only  starts  the  nonsense in  a  thread.Check  the  veracity of  my  statement...

Mr.Golden Viper,

                           What you have said is perfectly right. Instead of this Tu..Tu..Mai...Mai...my perception is that both Mr.Chanakya as well as Mr.Raghavan can keep quiet for the time being ( both of you please take it as a request ..I respect both of you in your seniority..Its a HUMBLE REQUEST -so that the charm of the posts will continue ) this Tu..Tu..Mai..Mai.. has become a sort of time pass for all HT members without adding anything to anybody's racing knowledge or skills -which is exactly what Admin of indiarace.com is trying to do forwhich all of us have to be thankful.

In all probabalities raacing will start sometimes in the near future or some months from now. When such a time comes Mr.Chanakya (if he is so confident of his strategy ) give his selections with betting units and make everyone silent/quiet...Make Dhood ka Dhood ..Paani ka paani.Nothing wrong. ( Mr.Chanakya please dont interpret that i have joined Mr.Raghavan in trying to challenge your claims ) Afterall you seem to have full confidence to in  your strtegy..then why should you hesitate ? Isnt it the best way to make Mr.Raghavan quiet once and for all ?

Mr.Raghavan and Mr.Chanakya ..please accept my apologies if you feel i have no right to enter into your territory-my intention is only to keep the charm of the posts intact without you both attacking each other.

Best wishes to not only to you both-but all HT memebers

                                                         Dr.Bashaar

Chanakya has claimed 72 points win at Mumbai and 23 points win at BNG.

Unfortunately, he has lost 13 points at Mysore and 2 points at Kolkata.

Of course, it takes some time to verify his 95 points win at BNG & MUM. 

But,  there is one glaring omission in his narration.  And that is regarding the 10% tax that bookies collect.

So, he has to deduct the 10% tax (Rs. 200/- each) from his every bet;  both from his win bets and lost bets.

This will definitely reduce his profit claim.  He may say the tax amount was negligible and should be ignored.  But, I have my own doubts.  His claim of profit is 1,60,000.  But, it will definitely fall short.

Next thing, he has not tipped anything for 12/3/20 races in this site.  He says he has tipped in his own blog.  Let him tip in his own blog or in some other blog.   He is fully at liberty.  But, he can not claim profits in this site.  Of course he can definitely claim those profits in his own blog or in the blogs that he has tipped. 

On 2/1/20, for race no 5, he has bracketed (3,5,6) with a rider that favorite will lose.  The favorite was quoted at 18/10.  So, one unit gain from that bet looks too high.  My guess is that he would have earned max 1000/- from that lay bet.  He has claimed 1 unit or 2000/-.  

He has claimed 23 points win at Bangalore.  During the period in question, there were many days when bookies refused to operate at BNG.  On such dates we can take only the payouts at tote; even if the tote payouts are much less than what bookies offered.

I have functioned as co ordinator for PTR games for may be 4 years.  I can certainly notice when the participants try to fudge the profit claims.

Whether Chanakya replies to this post or not is not my concern.  He alone is the person to decide on that.  I do not worry too much if my posts are not replied to.  I will put my point across.  That is all.  The concerned parties may object or funish the clarifications.  Alertnately, they can ignore my post altogether.

Please refer todays E. T.  front page

Online betting will become a reality and even RWITC  is trying for the same 2 points 

Racing will start by sep but without any punters and no bookies.

So please revise your system. Bookies haters should be pleased

A humble request to 2 writers here almost 40 mails of TU TU Mai between them that too     not  even  on racing !  GROW UP