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Difference Between Scientific & Astro-numerologic Method Of Winner Picking In Horse Racing

By Krish | 06-Feb-2021

Difference between Scientific & Astro-numerologic method of winner picking in Horse racing

To understand the difference, please read my definition:

1 Science – Visible, Measurable Truth so far (past & present) known to mankind.

2 Spritual science(Asrto-numerology) – Invisible, Un-measureable Truth existed in all period of time(past, present & future).

In scientific method, you study timing, handicap, class, track condition and many more parameters. You apply this method and pick the winners. Every one follow this method and you all are lead to pick favorite or second favorites. Here punters are fish in the ocean. Club or Book makers place two nets the bigger one for favorite and smaller one for second favorite. If outsider wins generally happens in most races every one burns their fingers. If favorite horse wins, you earn little payouts.

In Astro-numerolgical method, you apply your gained knowledge to pick 1 or 2 horses. Here you are sitting with fishing rod with bait. Bigger rod for 1st choice and smaller rod for second choice. Horses are fish in the ocean. Here no of fish(horses) available depending upon field horses running in that particular race. Your horses odds may be even, 5-1 7-1 or long shots. You might loose one or two races.

If wins your return will be very high.

Now you know the difference and try to learn Astro-numerology or any other method.

Good Luck!

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17 Replies

Krish said ...

08-Feb-2021

@raghavan,

Why do you want to refer books on numerology, horology etc. They are good for author themselves. You make your own numerology. For that learn basic numerology relation between number and alphabets. For that just refer Chaldean system of numerogy on internet site. For racing data you have Indiarace.com and study one or two years data or start collecting now on wards. I see you as expert in numerology in next 6 months time. Thank You.

Sps said ...

08-Feb-2021

Krish 

I don't consider my self competent to post my tips with  my limited  winner picking ability which is normal handicapping method. Some how post Corona session I am in profit.

I have zero knowledge on Austro Numerolozy etc.

You are the only person who has given all Selection based on A.N. and with (+) ROI. Therefore I look forward limited highlights on your selection to implement in beting.

Thank you for the helping attitude.

Krish said ...

08-Feb-2021

@SPS

My tipping style may not change. ie,1st and 2nd choice. If you are interested in my tips apply your winner picking skill to pick one out of two. There are so many better tipsters in HT. By the way where is your tips? I don't see any?

Any way good luck to future races.

Sps said ...

08-Feb-2021

Krish 

I select two or three or maximum four races for a day based on my limited knowledge and bet either WIN or

WIN / PLACE depending on odds.

That's why I requested you to give only one tip in every race . Even If you can reduce number of races also more better. 

I understand just on someone request ,you cannot change your style. You have your own metod and limitations. At least in addition to one (day best) ** you can indicate two (double)*. In this method you high light THREE SELECTION out of 16 in a race card of 8 races.

It is just my view not only to you, but to every successful tipster. At present only RACEBRO is doing like this of his own.

Regards

 

 

Raghavan said ...

08-Feb-2021

Selecting a horse on its past performance, or its jockey competence or trainer reputation is the method followed by maximum number of punters.  Of course some follow astrology method also.

I do not know ABC of astrology/numerology method.  So, it is not proper on my part to either endorse it or to ridicule it.

But I have seen some of the tipsters are mentioning occasionally that their selection is based on Astrology/Numerology.

On, 6th, at Kolkata no 4 won three races in a row.  There were 6 races at Kolkata.  In the remaining three races no-4 finished 3rd.  Yesterday, no-4 finished in 1,2,3  in 6 of the 8 races.. 

So, if any tipster has said that no-4 is strong on 6th, or on 7th, that statement proved correct.

But, in what way it is helpful to a punter if he relies on astrology or numerology?  He knows damn well that no-4 is strong on 6th.  He has to bet for win, shp, thp on no-4 in all races.

Further, it is not only the card number.  There is draw number also.  So, the punter has to check the horse with box no 4 in all the races and has to bet them also for win, shp & thp.

Some tipsters say not just one number.   (I prefer not to name those tipsters).  They recommend three numbers that will have strong influence.  (Say 1, 4 & 7).  This further confuses a punter.  Should he bet on all horses that have card nos 1, 4, 7 or box nos 1,4, 7 for win, shp & thp?

(There is an additional problem.  Suppose, there are more than 9 horses.  Than 1,4 & 7 also means 10, 13 & 16).

There are books on Astro/numero methods to pick winning horse like Horary numerology of the turf by Rasajo, Mozan's racing numerology.  There may be more books.

Punters who are frustrated because their selection/s fail too often are welcome to study those books and try their luck in that method.

They can also share their experience in this site.

S U R Y A. Track Logics 136 said ...

07-Feb-2021

70% it's work on numerology 

SUN 1--10

MON 2 --11

TUE   9--7

WED  5

THU  3 --6-- 12

FRI.   6--3

SAT.  8--4

EVERY 1 ST -- 3 RD & 6 TH RACES ANY CENTRE 1 3 6 HORSE AND DRAW NO 99% WILL BE THERE

THIS IS SCERET OF 136 RULING  NOS... 

THANKS

SURYA TRACK LOGICS 136

Krish said ...

07-Feb-2021
SPS

Thank you for your analysis. It seems to me your are one of the fish in the ocean and not fish catcher sitting in the banks of ocean/sea/river. 

Krish said ...

07-Feb-2021

@ Abbas J 

I appreciate for your valuable informations. You have covered lot in details about horses potential, owners psycology and sceintic studies etc. Thank you very much.

Krish said ...

07-Feb-2021

@ Small piece

Thank you for your honest opinion.

Krish said ...

07-Feb-2021
Chase 

Thank you for expressing your reality.

Abbas J said ...

07-Feb-2021

Hello All,

This is someone thoughts, Might helpful or not Please read:

Attention racehorse jockeys: Start fast, but save enough energy for a final kick. That’s the ideal strategy to win short-distance horse races, according to the first mathematical model to calculate how horses use up energy in races. The researchers say the approach could be used to identify customized pacing plans that, in theory, would optimize individual horses’ chances of winning.

Every racehorse has different capabilities. Like humans, some excel at sprinting, whereas others are marathoners. Figuring out which is which, and how to pace them, can be the difference between faltering in the final furlough and taking home the Kentucky Derby’s $1.3 million winner’s payout. Jockeys and trainers have traditionally relied on centuries of experience, data from previous races, and intuition to plan their races.

Amandine Aftalion, a mathematician at the School for Advanced Studies in the Social Sciences (EHESS) in Paris, thought she could add to that. Since 2013, she has been analyzing the performances of world champion runners like sprinter Usain Bolt. She’s found that short-distance runners tend to win when they start strong and gradually slow down toward the finish line. But in medium-distance races, such as the 1600-meter, runners perform better when they start strong, settle down, and finish with a burst of speed.


Her model shows how those winning strategies maximize the energy output of muscles reliant on two different pathways: powerful aerobic ones that require oxygen, which can be in limited supply during a race, and anaerobic ones, which don’t need oxygen but build up waste products that lead to fatigue.

Aftalion wondered which strategy would be best for horses. So she and Quentin Mercier, another EHESS mathematician, took advantage of a new GPS tracking tool embedded in French racing saddles. The trackers let fans watch digital images of the horses move across a screen, and they gave Aftalion and Mercier real-time speed and position data.

The duo studied patterns in dozens of races at the Chantilly racetracks north of Paris and developed a model that accounted for winning strategies for three different races: a short one (1300 meters), a medium one (1900 meters), and a slightly longer one (2100 meters), all with different starting points on the same curved track. The model takes into account not just different race distances, but also the size and bend of track curves, and any slopes or friction from the track surface.

The results, published today in PLOS ONE, might surprise jockeys who hold horses back early for bursts of energy in the last furlough. Instead, a strong start leads to a better finish, the team found. That doesn’t mean those jockeys are wrong, though. Too strong of a start can be devastating as well, leaving the horse “exhausted by the end,” Aftalion says.

In theory, the model could allow trainers to plug in parameters for individual horses—like their unique aerobic capacities—to get custom racing strategies, from pacing recommendations to ideal racing distances. And if there’s a market for it, developers might even create an app, Aftalion says.

That’s a nice thought, but it’s not likely to win over horse trainers and jockeys, says Peter Knight, a veterinarian at the University of Sydney with more than 30 years of experience working on horse racetracks. Various other scientific attempts to explain performance over the past 4 decades “haven’t been particularly successful,” he says—and not just because horses vary so much in body size and aerobic capacity: The models cannot account for the horse’s own behaviors.

For example, a horse might give up when another horse passes it, because it doesn’t understand that it’s supposed to win. Until researchers can get inside the horse’s head and account for psychological variables, Knight says, “we can’t truly model performance.”

“But perhaps the fundamental question is: Do we really want to?” he adds. “For people who love horse racing, the uncertainty provides the excitement, and the actual running of the horses provides the spectacle and the beauty.

Venkat said ...

07-Feb-2021

I have tried very hard to develop an algo for defining a clear risk reward profile but grappling with too many variables made it impossible for me. I can do 3-5 standard deviations to determine the risk but not able to succeed with the reward profile. Is there any one who has an advanced degree in maths and possibly physics.

I have found that numerology works sometimes but limited. Astrology according to me is a con job.

Cheers

Cee Kay said ...

07-Feb-2021

Horses drawn 2 today, in Mumbai...keep an eye for win/place.

G C Raj said ...

07-Feb-2021

I will give importance to the scientific method where defnitely success rate is more than astro numerology, but in addition to the science in the racing field one has to consider so many other factors like flow of money, connections mood and link etc etc

Sps said ...

07-Feb-2021

Krish 

Every day you post your selections based on Austro Numerical (AN).

You are giving 2 Selections per day and also give One Day Best. 

My objervation :-

1) Day Best Selection Rarely Wins.

2) If We purchase equal ticket for all races both Selection then Loss by Default. Over any period long or short.

3) Numerology may be excellent but unless a person know this thoroughly, it is dangerous. If a person of your calibre can't handle this then how other can do.

4) Now coming to your Selection (AN)

Give one selection per race. You may further reduce number of races. 

5) In Char Chand Contest you have given Single Selection in Selected Four Races. Over a period of 30 days Your ROI is about 30% but strike rate is very less. In % ROI looks good but due to lower strike rate a person can not invest 500/-  or 100/- per race. 

 

 

Small Piece said ...

07-Feb-2021

You itself mentioned astrology/numerology is invisible and immeasurable then to learn it fully it may take our life time. Even ancient astro numerologist Varahamihar spent their life time in discovering immeasurable truth.

So I feel even if you make small mistake in astrology/numerology it will give wrong result, atleast in scientific method out of few one wil be correct.

Finally what everyone following is better than some few following.

Chase said ...

07-Feb-2021

Wishful thinking , Imaginations obscuring Reality.

" The Greatest Sources of Our Suffering Comes From The Lies We Tell Ourselves"- Elvin Semrad , Head of Massachusetts Mental Health Centre , Hardware Medical School.