In my personal opinion no limitations for Indian Breeding. It is at par with International level. Yes many breeders are not keeping proper documentations and that is part and parcel of Indian Society. Good examples of Indian Breeding are Elusive Pimperneil, Set Alight, Jacqueline and Adjudicate winning Invitation cup. I would blame the breeders/owners/turf clubs for such condition today. Horses will improve when they are exposed to Competition. Unfortunately when Indian Race horses should race abroad Dubai, Hong Kong, Singapore etc Breeders are playing within themselves. Foregin horses should be allowed to compete in India without 8 Kg weight imposed. Japanease did  it with support from Govt and Industry together. Our Owners/Breeders want to evade GST taxes, duties and do not want more people to join racing. Indian Breeding is world class for sure.

Ravi Gowande

Pedigreestar    

SMART CHIEFTAN raced twice in Singapore, did not place and returned to India. He never raced in Hong Kong.

Three colts sired by China Visit were exported to Singapore in May 2006 -- Imperialardo (out of Lei), Redpacketday (out of Adorer) and Fashionably Late (out of Congratulations). As per information available in Indian Stud Book publications, Fashionably Late did not race while the other two placed but did not win.

@ Anil Xk ji 

  Sir, Self fully agreed with you. Admire your thoughts. A lot can be done in this field. Hope things will be alright in future.

Regards n thanks.

I am not 100? sure if it was Hongkong, but Smart Chieftain had won a race there. 

Exileration nor Comander in chief ever raced anywhere abroad. Are u jokers or what.

@ Indian_Turf_Record

  Appreciate your pieces of information extended, also understood/realised your ideology. You are doing your work in an efficient, great & wonderful way. Infact, self gratify your work & expect you will continue to do the same in futur, updating Ht'ans.

Regards.

@ Turf record

You are outstanding in keeping records... congratulations.

One horse owned by Ameetha Mehra ( by china visit) also won in Singapore but it gone directly before cracking. I remember John Meagher is the trainer. 

@ BKA 

The thought line put forward by you is millions worth.

There is no skill improvement and attracting new blood in Indian breeding industry, those who happened to be breeders are still continuing . There is no good cross breeding attempts by anybody in near future to note with.

Agakhan improvised his stable by cross breeding his mares with latin lines and arab lines and regained top spot in Europe.

Except new breeder B. Vijay ( sarvang stud)nobody else will try anything. 

Many factors to be discussed with but the most important one is the life span of Indian mares are very short. I still remember my family owned Manipuri horse lived with us upto 23 years in ordinary condition. So the mindset and treatment towards those sports personalities to be changed. 

The innovative idea of Upkeeing Living legends ( great performers after retirement) is worthy.

I still remember the sorrowful condition of mare Donna mia, during my visit to that breeding station.

Most of the people still thinks that racing is just gambling.... can't waste my energy to correct them...busy in work

@ BKA

       Since we both have a liking for racing and Kipling, I am sure you will permit  me to correct some statements and facts. The aim is not to find fault ,with anyone but merely to ensure that sanctity of historical information is maintained.

      EXHILARATION. He never went abroad. He was never ridden in any race by a jockey other than P. Shroff.

      COMMANDER IN CHIEF. He never raced abroad. 

      To best of knowledge, Indian-born horses who have won abroad are:-

England - Flower of Baroda (over hurdles) and Southern Regent (flat).

U.S.A. - Adler

Dubai - Mystical

Hong Kong - Astonish

Singapore/Malaysia -  Saddle Up (Highest rated Indian-born horse by Timeform), Polar Falcon, Simply Noble, Whatmore, Monfieth and Royal Liberator.

South Korea - Beat It Dude, Bernstein, Gobongsan and Golden Ball.

If I have missed out any, the omission can be made good by those in the know. I have only included countries whose racing is recognised by IFHA. Hence winners in Sri Lanka are not given. 

As you have rightly said, Kipling's six Ws can't adequately explain the situation. At least in our lifetime, "East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet." At least on an equal footing on a race track. 

@ The Joker 

   Sir, Many thanks for reminding me the name of Indian Horses performed nicely in abroad. Commander In Chief from India also visited Hong Kong around 1990 but not won a race on foreign soil, perhaps stood 2nd or 3rd??

Regards.

Hi BKA sirjee

Dr MAM owned a horse called Polar Falcon( by Ajaad) who won in Singapore. There was a horse with the Byramjees Beat that Dude who won in Korea. 

Also Mystical won in Dubai. 

Le Havre was a champion in France but stands in Ireland. 

Cheers

The Joker

@Santosh Kumar V K

  Not only Exhilaration/ Adler , some other Indian Horses also won, a sprinter from India won in Hong Kong (Please, correct me).

Regards & thanks.

@ Indian Turf Records

1) Right u r, Sir

   How has 'W' in last. Some other 'W' r whom, whose, whether, which C.B.I. using frequently in their day to day workings. 

2) Around 80's & 90's period, source of pieces of pieces of information was **Print Media**.for a common man like me. Perhaps periodical magazine "Thoroughbred", self read the article with interview of Jockey ridden Exhilaration in Canada & won, This European Jockey used to ride in India also, moreover it was 2nd outing of Exhilaration in Canada.

    Gap finding in this episode, must be quite interesting for both the ends. Dr.Cyrus S.Poonawalla (Chemistry Ph.D.) is a person of repute (as well as his family members) & always tried to run Indian Racing with his best efforts & infact -- he owner of both Exhilaration & his Sire Malvado (Canada).

    Due to my age, memory diminishing day by day (Neurons of ridges & furrows of Hind Brain, leaving the original place).

 Regards & thanks.

Maybe he was Referring to Adler

@ BKA

     Nice of you to have quoted Kipling. If you are referring to The Elephant's Child, I think it goes, "what and why and when and how and where and who".  That five Ws and one H. Of course, I could be wrong. 

@ BKA

     EXHILARATION never raced outside India.