Indiarace.com - india's first & foremost horse racing portal

Topic Details

Back to lists

How To Find A Winning Horse.

By Raju Bhagyanagar | 23-Mar-2021

Good evening friends,  it has been years , I have been loosing money on horse betting. I would like to know what is the criteria to find top three horse out of a bunch of 12 to 15 runners. I have been part of horse talk forum for many years ,and have senior,  experienced participants giving their picks.. Really hats off the administration of indiarace.com. coming to my topic I know a few factors , which are to be seen in a horse... like,  Pedigree,  trainer, owner, Jockey, handicapp, previous running. All these is one part.

But , I also find people looking for numerology, draw number horse numbers , day value and sometimes colour of jockey... and above all luck is a very big factor.... I request admin sir to kindly post my topic in HT forum, so that all friends can give their valuable suggestions...

Post Your reply

25 Replies

Chanakya said ...

27-Mar-2021

Ab-delhi,

You  are  also like those  who  make a  comment  without  carefully  reading a posting. I've  never  said  it  is 'easy' but  said  it  is  'not  difficult' to  find  winner  of  a  race. A good  handicapper can find  winner of most  of the  races. Many times  when winner looks  an  'outsider' ( odds  10/1 or  more) a handicapper omits  or  relegates  him  to  second  or  third  position - at  least  I do  it!

Yes, I've  won perhaps   close  to  2  million during  last  10  years which  has been  used  for  my  USA and  middle  east trips  from  2016  t0  2019. I don't  justify  after  the  race - I post  my  selections  BEFORE  the  race  and  then give  justification  if  required...

I go  to  races  to  WIN and   MAKE  MONEY - not  for  entertainment or  a  cup  of  coffee or  a  glass  of  beer. I don't  take  part  in  'paper'  contest ; but  will  take  part  if  you  or  anybody  offers  substantial  amount  of  money  to  the  winner...

 

Hals said ...

26-Mar-2021

Patience is must in racing becay certainty in racing is uncertainty. 

Avoid 5/6 yr old horses - mostly inconsistent.

Avoid V-B races - only low class/form     Avoid cl.I - once reach top class cannot win again and again in handicap races as has to carry weights hence connections prefer to bring down weights. 

Avoid classic races - cannot predict and lot of hidden preparations are there also setup races among top connections..

Avoid first timers as we do not know the real potential.

Select one or two races cl.iv or III only 3/4year olds, study the form, track, distance, horse weight etc.

Avoid playing hot favourites.

Santosh Kumar V K said ...

26-Mar-2021

Capital risk ,

Gud one. Bring it on,

Regards

Ruchi said ...

26-Mar-2021

THE LEOPARD STRIKES......looks like it has escaped from the zoo making its presence felt everywhere

Ab-delhi said ...

26-Mar-2021

Mr Chanakya as u claim it is so easy to find a winner in every race then by now u must be a multi millionaire.

Justifying the winner after the race is very easy. I have seen ur selection , you give two or three horses in every race and give this is a open race fav will loose.And u claim u can find the winner in every race . 

There is a contest  CHAR CHAND why did u not participate in that and shown your talent . you could have easy won the contest then every body would have believed your claims.

Capital Risk said ...

26-Mar-2021

@Raj original

Alphabets counting applicable only if other things fail. If that also fails we have to wait to and watch after the results (may be omit vowels in the horse name, )

Raj-original said ...

26-Mar-2021

Simple . Ask a great astrologer who writes regularly in HT.

He is also famous for after race claims.

And another Legend who gives 30 horses in a day in the form of horse no. Draw no. And alphabets counted left to right ,right to left.

You will be millionaire in no time.

Racing is soooo simple.

Chanakya said ...

25-Mar-2021

It  is  not  difficult  to  find  a  winner  of  almost  EVERY  race. How?

1) learn  handicapping- speed, pace, weight, astro etc.

2) learn  how  to  interpret the  current  fom from trackwork

3) analyse & compare  current track  with one  when runner  won  or  placed

4) penetrometer readings  & their  affect  on  the past  performance

5) caliber  of  current  jockey  and other when runner placed/won

Many  more  but  these  are  enough to  make  you  spend  10  hours for  8  races  of  the  day  of  any  center...

If  you  can  learn and  MASTER these points - you  will  never  lose...

Wild Card Entry said ...

25-Mar-2021

Be Cool is the only solutions for loosers,dont think of yesterday's losses, you cannot cover your losses, play safe bet based on your income, take it for passion, one cannot be a master in horse racing you will keep studying till the end of your life, there are tons of information in horse racing which one cannot grasp it, you will be playing with little informations so play accordingly, you will think after loosing this horse has the best track, best pedigree, best owner, best Jockey, despite of that it lost, that is the connection that the horse has got from its masters. So think wisely before loosing further, wager minimum amount end of the day you loose you r satisfied. 

Hp++ said ...

25-Mar-2021

@whocaresfortheloss 

Before that yu can find one at the winning post

Raju Bhagyanagar said ...

25-Mar-2021

Good afternoon friends, I thank admin of indiarace.com,  first, and Satish Goud , Ayyarnet, Ravi Gawande, Robert, Ab Chawla, King Koti,  shanky , Sachin sewera,Raghavan and Munesh, for giving their valuable suggestion and guidelines , and prompt response to my query., and also thank regular writer, like godzilla, Ruchi, Govindrajan Chennai, Deepak , and all esteemed participants of Horse talks, wishes you a very profitable days for the coming mumbai meeting on Saturday and Sunday....

Hp++ said ...

25-Mar-2021

No one can find a winning horse so easily..Even big trainers like RRB have given wrong calls..If yu hv a 30% success rate its too good

Jairam said ...

25-Mar-2021

You see in race, if any race there are 3 or 4 top jockey raiding in any one or more then race Don't palay favorite on top jockey, play other top jockey odds like 3/1 or above, for example

Trevor 12/10 odds,. Suraj 2/1 odds

Akshay Kumar 5/1 odds, 

Sandeshs 6/10dds  this time play Akshay & sandeshs both , if there are 2 top jockey play longer Odds top jockey

Whocaresfortheloss said ...

25-Mar-2021

Stand near the winning podium, where all the winning horses will be taken after the race, where you can always find the winning Horse

Any said ...

25-Mar-2021

Dear raju

Play favorite horse for win only upto derdy days of any centre after derby is over just eat favourite & play small amount in big Odds on those horses who continiously knowking door but fails to deliver blue riban.. important thing is that avoid races up to 7 furlong, most propably I used to play 1600 & 2400 + above..... Gamble races 1200FL,1800FL & 2000FL.....  i.e on sunday play horses like wizad of stocks, Cosmic Ray, forest flame

Munesh said ...

25-Mar-2021

The one that is raising to the task, time and again, is Immortality. And there is scope for further improvement also.If Chouhan prefers this mount, it will be added plus.

Raghavan said ...

25-Mar-2021

There is no formula or calculations to find a winning horse.  Paisa favorites (Up to 60/100 odds) may win 50% races.  But, too many punters have gone bankrupt by betting on paisa favorites.

So, follow some simple principles strictly where you can CUT LOSSES.

1. Never bet if the number of horses are 6 or less.  And, never bet if there are 13 or more horses either.

2. Bet maximum 3 or 4 horses in a day.  Bet low.  Do not go in for 5500, 11000 bets.  Restrict your bets to 1100/- per race OR in exceptional circumstances bet 2200/-.

3. Never bet paisa favorites.

4. If it is possible from your side, avoid betting for win/places completely.  Try exotic bets like forecast & trinella.  These are definitely tougher & more difficult than betting for win/place.  But, do not worry.  For the past three & half years I am betting only on these pools.  Strike rate is nothing to crow about.  Around 15% to 18% if I am lucky.  But generally 12 to 14 correct bets in 100 attempts.  Even if you can not achieve the strike rate of 12%, there will not be big loss.

Satish Goud jee,

Just bet one or two horses?  Suggestion is not at all bad.  But, just be sympathetic to those who bet three/four horses in a day.

I would like to know your views about a man who bets around 16 to 20 horses in a day!  

Sachin Savera said ...

24-Mar-2021

Hi There,

I have been racing online and onshore always. The best way to find a winning horse is to look at the history of the horse. Jockey always plays a important roll in horse racing.

Shanky said ...

24-Mar-2021

Experience n patience wins your ideology of finding winning horse. Play selective centre Bang/Mum. Don't play in the 1-4 weeks n the last 3 weeks of the season commencing n ending respectively.  
Wait n play before few sec while entering the gates, so you can  judge the swing of the market betting of the horse. Follow the animal weight in the handicap races, which is one of the basic criteria for winning or place prospects. Sometimes the trainer won't indicate the animal weight in certain races n indicate as NA/NR, which indicates its going to be pulled down or for future races.

Racing has so many factors; play 1-2 races with good analysis n if u lose that day don't chase. Wait for another day n back the horse. If u have patience u can sustain in the game n win horses.

King Koti said ...

24-Mar-2021

Play 3 years old maiden races only.

Ab Chawla said ...

24-Mar-2021

RUCHI Sir, is a learnt  and able man, he can provide his guidance and suggestions for sure. 

Robert said ...

24-Mar-2021

One cannot win all races in a single day, play one or two races with bookies which you are sure of.  For some entertainment play forecast quinella and tanala on a very small amount , sometimes you can win big too . 

First ,latest track work, second whether that horse is compatible with the running distance, third blood line, fourth horse recent performance , fifth you have to see that horse earlier run bunch, if the bunch was too tough and it placed close 5th or 6th in the earlier run and if the same horse runs in a inferior bunch, you can play that horse, lastly you can give some importance to jockey abilities. Also pending horses should be accounted for.

Lastly, you better always believe In your instincts rather a tipster's choice. 

Ravi Gowande said ...

24-Mar-2021

" No Astrology can give a Winner" 

Racing is team sport it is combined effort of Jockey, Owner, Trainer, Breeders etc Thier Hard Work as well as luck ensures Horse wins. Astrology, Numerology are only tools to forecast winners. It depends on the person who is using and how he is using. 

If you do not want to loose money in horse betting. Use astrological insurance if you keep track of your investments with respect to Jockeys, Trainers, Owners. Over a period of time. And Instead of playing horses play on the person who is paying you maximum time and selections from experts/handicappers are tipping a particular horse you will definately earn money at least you will not be loosing money.

Ravi Gowande

Pedigreestar

Ayyarnet said ...

24-Mar-2021

Friend Raju:

There are many avenues to make money outside Race course. To make money going to Race course is nit the correct decision. But having entered the Races likeall of us you may find it to difficult to continue or even leave it also.

Having more than three decades in Races my sincere suggestion to take things easily dont concentrate too much. Dont followastrology or Numerology etc. After the races are over they will tell you I told you is not it !!!!

Just to keep yourself survive follow a winning stable in any centre  for example Vijay Singh Kolkatta Pesi -Mumbai and Sulaiman Attaullah in Bangalore or follow one or two Frequently winning Jockeys. Here your advantage is even you lose also no problem you can recover your loss soon.

But please please dot play or be a victim for impulse betting.

Be happy with you got and never allow your mind to go out of yourdecision.

Small win is bettervthan losingevery thing 

I have survived with this strategies fordecades and made little money also

enjoing my retired life with my regular glasses of Kigfisher

 

Good Luck to you

 

Ayyarnet

Badagowni Satish Goud said ...

24-Mar-2021

Honestly the Best horse Wins.Every body has their own handicap methods.Horse racing is purly run on merit. No astrology can give a winner.the trainer trains the horse and jockey rides the horse. The best way to find a winner is do your home work.There is no specfic pattern to fallow, always think from the handicapper view why he reduced the rating and increaced the rating.the best runs of .last performences. track condition of the horse, weather horse likes the distace or not  etc,there are so many  factors involved in merit. Finaly i heard from my seniors 25 years back

A Man who plays one RACES  in a day is MY BOSS

A Man who plays two RACES  in a day is like ME (Gambler)

A Man who plays three RACES  in a day is MY SLAVE

Every thing is published in the race books just fallow it keep solving it you will get the result. Good luck all