@ All,

Have decided to stop any reference to NUMEROLOGY.

With out cracking head one can make a million (definitely he should possess multi million)

Just play favourite shp or thp

double your bet till you win every day you are winner.

Dear Sir Mr.M.P.Reddy , I don't believe in Astrology or Numerology But I do have a lot of respect to people irrespective of their beliefs and faiths.

I know memories are fallible . And Biased thinking is quite normal and widespread.

So  I always verify before putting my trust. You may call me a skeptic.

Your Formula is restricted to card Number 4 and 9.  With drawn on declaration stage  Not last minute withdrawals at the starting gate which are quite frequent. O.K.

I verified the current Mumbai season for a start. 

Two instances qualify as per your norms:

25.12.2020:In Race Number 3 Horse Number 4 Lady of Luxury was withdrawn on Veterinary grounds at around 10.30 AM.

Results of the days races? Winners in brackets: R1 (3).  R2 ( 3) R3 (6) R 4(10) R5(12) R6(10) R7(1) R8(3)

Nowhere is never 4.

On14.3.2021 in Race Number 5 Horse Number 4 Joakim was examined at around 12 hours a day earlier on 13.3.21 and found unfit and was withdrawn.

Results of the days races? Winners in brackets:

R1(.2). R2(5) .R3( 5).R4( 3).R5(5) .R6(13) R.7(11) .R.8(5) .R9(2).

Astrology and Numerology are steeped in selective bias , confirmation bias, and such other biases bolstered by a faltering memory that rewrites past history as per your imagination. If you see an aggregation of clouds if you are thinking of horses the clouds will look like horses.

The trick of our imagination. Quite common. 

No need to worry. 

@Raghavan,

A straight answer to a straight question; nothing apologetic about it, Sir.

In the lost race of Mumbai I played  5k on no. 7 @12/1 and 5k place @2 1/2 , only on the basis of NUMERolgy

@ M.P. R. Sir, No need to Feel Offended.

Faith is O.K.  Faith is Personal. No Need To Explain.  

crk,

If you have ignored 3 & 5 in the last race at Kolkata, that is perfectly understandable.  No need to be defensive or apologetic about your actual choice.  Normally every punter prefers to bet on the basis of merit of horse and astrology, the pseudo science takes a back seat.

But betting on horse race is one thing.  Functions like Griha pravesha, marriage, thread ceremony etc is another thing.  It is better if you do not mix up these events with betting on races.

Peronally I am not against astrology to locate a winner in horse race.   But,  I am against some of the crazy propositions like bet on three horse numbers & three box numbers!

w@Chase, taking your name in my letter is an accidental  While I started my letter your name was in the top two names. hence casually I have taken your name. In continuation of your name,I wrote.....

“and friends “ also..You said in your last two paragraphs  every one has their own formula etc , and you said they can not be packaged in to Astrology or Numerology.that means that you have faith in NUMEROLOGY. Thanks for that. As you said the formula that  I have derived after lot of observation is put forth in front of you. Ready made formula. Observe keenly ,or study old race book. After drawing inferences only you speak. Definitely  you say after that it is not blind faith,BUT strong and correct faith. Without tasting a single item in dish ,we can not pass comments saying that the dish is not worthy to eat.

" The More  They Explain,  the More They Reveal The Blindness Of Their Faith"

@ Raghavan,

No, I did not play Horse No 3 or 5 in the last race, as also in one more race.

Like many here, I also do my study of races the conventional way, and Numerology is one additional feature I factor in my final selection at the time of the races. I am no exception in changing my mind and blundering my way to losses!

I don't think necessary to explain my belief  in Numerology or any other logy to detractors here. I am a student of it since long, and have the gumption to declare it works for me, and that, you will agree, is what matters!

I also sometimes wonder, how many of the detractors here have ' not ' consulted an Astrologer for their own/son/daughter's marriage or for any other important functions in their lives! Their answer or silence would be, I dare say, quite revealing!

With malice towards none, I rest my case.

REGARDS.

@ chase and other friends, here I am giving one rule ( rather grabbing favourable opportunity)that should be followed in Numerology,it goes like this. Suppose  in race no 2  horse no 4  or 9 is withdrawn at declaration level  then 95% of times 4or 9 will win either in 1st race or in 3rd race. Following this rule I made money many times. Generally in 1st race only this no. Will win. Mostly the odds will be 10/1or near to it. Please observe now on wards. If you find time try to refer old record books ,how ever old they may be . You will definitely find(discover) this rule true for yourself. This rule is applicable if 4or9 withdraws in any race no.say 1-12. Please observe then say,yes true, or no wrong. But without taking pains, not studying records,kindly don’t pass an adverse remark . But try to respond ,so that I can give more rules that I am observing since many years .    

With regard 

M P Reddy

@ M P Reddy : you are right and that's what I have also said in my post. The movement of numbers can be watched from first race onwards and by the time it is fourth or fifth race you can definitely arrive at the possible number. 

Interesting observation M.P.Reddy Sir.

During the course of the races we are assailed by conflicting emotions : Euphoria on winning even a small amount , Dejections and disappointments on failures, Internal dialogues with self criticisms , bravado , Anchoring Effects, Various Biases , Favouritism , Aha moments , post race realisations etc.

When we pause and think a bit differently , focussing on a ninber sequence or a song or a beautiful natural scene or just concentrating on your breath  , our mind gets diverted from the constant chatter and monologues interfering with our thinking process. 

That is meditation .

When you dissociate yourself from the conflicting emotions , our critical thinking goes up another level fleetingly and we get insights , a clarity in our decisions.

It is difficult to be calm and quiet in the betting ring so , even if we attempt , it may , at times emerge in a flash and disappear. We may even fail to recognise it. If we do recognise it and encash it , we again fall into the trap of explaining it with our pet theories. 

Yes . Every one has a technique. Your is writting down the winning  numbers and contemplating them. Follow up on your techniques. Practice it . Free yourself from emotions. Tune up your logical thinking.  Meditate.

Every one has their own formula. Their own Mantra. Their own way of Thinking. 

It is personal. Can not be generalised. Can not be packaged into Astrology or Numerology. Period.

Buddy,

Never bother about my loss.  

I have strong reservations against astro numero calculations to locate a winner in horse race.  My post has been up voted by some, down voted by some.  

Overall, there are some people who it seems have benefited by astro numero method.  Let them pursue it.  

Generally speaking, I have nothing against astro numero method.  But, giving three numbers & asking us to bet on those three card numbers and box numbers is the craziest approach.  And your pal's predictions which reads "astro says..favorite may lose"  is the worst form of advertisement on astro numero method!

BKD,

If you are winner, then my heartiest congratulations.  Perhaps you are mixing astro calculations and past performance of horses which will improve the strike rate.  If you are satisfied with the positive results, then you need not worrry about what others think.  As long as you do not advocate to bet on 6 horses in a race, and select two or three horses in a day that you fancy based on whatever logic, you are on the right track.

Win legend,

Why are you against non tipsters.  Anybody & everybody can tip.  One has to just see the newspaper/s like THE HINDU, Deccan Herald OR race books like Vel, Cole etc to tip!   Tipping is not brahma vidya.  There are some people who believe that tippng requires the expertise of breaking open Padma Vyuha. 

If some people are not tipping and contribute in this site for or against any thinking,  welcome such posts or ignore such posts.  But please do not ridicule any body.

Ayyarnet,

In racing, a punter with 33% strike rate may win marginally, provided he does not bet odds on favorites.  But, generally, every punter is in loser's circle only.  You can not generalise based on one or two exceptions.

The turf club has to pay establishment charges, stake money etc.  And they depend on punter's money only.  The owners expect some returns on their investment.  They depend on punter's money.  The trainers, jockeys have to maintain their life style.  And they too depend on punter's money.  And the bookies want the punter's money too.  Against all these odds, it is difficult (virtually impossible) to win in races if you are betting regularly.  

"Even if you lose, no problem; you can recover it soon"!

The only winners in race course are Bookies, Club & the Government.  Money lost is lost for ever.  A punter betting for the first time in his life may be dreaming about the profits.  But a punter who bets second time  and 3rd, 4th 5th time and still continuing always hopes to recover his earlier losses.

Raj_original,

There are some people who believe in Astrology, Parrot Jothisham etc.   So, it is always better to use milder language whenever you are discussing  astrology!

CRK,

Yes.  3 & 5 were prominent on 28th March.  5 horses won & 3 among them at good odds.  So, your astrology theory definitely profitable on 28th.  No ifs & buts.  You have come out with flying colours in predicting 3 & 5.  I have only one question to you.  Did you play 3 & 5 in the last race?  3 was withdrawn & 5 won paying 96/- for win.  

It is difficult to implement such theories in horse betting.  I presume you played h-no-8 in the last race which was promptly board out.

I have studied numerology and been following it for a long time. One thing I can say for sure, with the help of numerology u can avoid betting on a wrong horse..For Example if u like a particular horse in 5th race and the results of first 4 races does not favor the number of the horse u like than its better not to play that horse..90% of the time that horse will not win, even if it's a hot favourite.. there's a proverb" money saved is money earned". And u can bet EXTRA money whenever the results favour the number of the horse u like..

@Snjay. Vaasthu is definitely not applicable for RACING. Regarding Numerology I tell you one thing here.I play races since 1974.  As per that book as well as my observation also.they are   ,if you write 12345 in upper line and 678910 below to the upper digits, you get 5 pairs  ie 1 and 6 one pair and so on and so forth,and lost pair will be 5 and 10. These paired no.have  affinity with each other. Numerology never tells   in advance,say one day before or even one hour before, that today these are the nos prominent or these numbered horses will win. That thinking is totally wrong. Sorry to say so. After 2,3 races only the movement of numbers , that they change  place to place  ( 1to4 places only) should be observed.Some times from 3rd race , but definitely from 4th onwards NUMEROLOGY  starts indicating the winner. As races go on , by the time we reach no 6 ,7,8 (last races) Numerology definitely indicate a  fluke horse number winning on bigger odds . One thing l have forgotten to say that NEVER  numerology indicates less priced or favourite horses as winners . Only flukers enjoy Numerology. I gave information here ,only 1% of knowledge I gained  during my long journey in this racing field .Definetly at least one fluke in a day I play as per the indication of numerology and recover most of my losses. Next time I will come with little more information.please study and observe  the movements of no . Write each race results either vertically or horizontally till only 4 places on paper or back side of the book . Just observe the movement of each no.before it strikes.You will start wondering regarding their movement that you notice.

No physicist or astronomer "believes" in astrology or any other ancient pseudoscience..even albert einstein

Well said Raj O and Chase ,

These worthies unable contribute anything worthwhile with their racing knowledge , have to complicate everything by their half baked theories and supertition.

raghu - this time what you say makes sense to me - if you know, like you know you are going to lose any which way -why waste time handicapping it is stressfull - just numbers or 'tik tac toe' ....no stress or time wasting -  just go in and .......have fun ....people do pay for entertainment on other platforms too.

Astro Numero Vaastu  etc is applicable only to  Indian racing.  Abroad all winners are on merit of horse & jockey.   That is bottomline.

There is a saying Empty vessels make more noise SanjayS I don't see any tips or contribution from you on this forum then why are you jumping with your 5 rupee JP ticket hahaha....

I understand your view point JP sir, But there is a lot of difference between Astronomy , a science and Astrology , a pseudo science. Aryabhatta was an astronomer not an astrologer. They used astronomy and its relation to the seasons , rain or drought , predicting good times and bad times and advising the then kings and merchants on their adventures and misadventures.

It was never meant to be related to individuals life and individual random events. That came later as astrology.

And that kind of pseudo science also gave way to Numerology which is not astrology at all. 

Astrology and Numerology are all wishful thinking. And random events and coincidences  just add to those confirmation biases.

Crk had a hunch about 3 and 5 on Kolkata races. But he did not stick to his own hunch in the ,8 th race and relied on card number 8. Why? If he had just remained stead fast on his hunch of 3 and 5 he could have made some good money but did not.

 There are times that our hunches work out but not always. When to trust our hunches ( which are steeped in to our biased preferences,) and when not to rely on them ( through logical and critical thinking,) is something very difficult to practice. 

Something's are simple to believe  but difficult to practice. 

We just complicate it further through our egos .

Self employed American astrologer NIXON has this to say about ASTROLOGY AND SPORTING EVENTS.

Yes, it is possible to win sports wagers using astrology and numerology.  it requires that the bettor pay careful attention to what they are told and that they understand that nothing is 100% as the astrologer cannot control for any number of variables that might effect the outcomes.

I used to have clients who bet horse racing contests, dog racing contests, and American football games using the information that I gave them. successfully they were the ones who followed my directions carefully and who did remember to place a bet

@RAJ ORIGINAL.

Well said this is the right replay among many, hope the so called astrologers read the last para and realise what is practical reality and the unknown gravity.

@ RAJ-ORIGINAL. astrology  is science  with  calculations. How they had calculated the date of lunar or solar eclipse which is now done by computer. The planets  were identified  long before when  the westerners  discovered telescopes. Visit some of the temples like Tanjore big temple and  science  is still.not able to find out how the 70 ton temple tomb was placed. The temple is all stone and for several kms there are no stone belts. This is the greatness of our Indian culture  abundant and rich in science and mathematics. Astrology is one subject very few can master or interpret with precision and accuracy.It will be an insult to greats like Arya Bhatta and others who.were masters in astrology and Mathematics if people like me.or others talk about it. I had a friend who was meticulously noting down the card numbers of the race results everyday. He was knowing numerology. Before the last or the penultimate race he would arrive at the number more favourable to win in the coming race and back that number(horse) . 9 out of times he was spot on. I have written this several times here in HT. Astrology is a based purely on calculation and interpretation is basedon individual understanding, knowledge of the subject and experience. 

Godzilla,

My knowledge in numerology may be nil.  But, I know this much.  It is not such an easy subject.  Just by adding digits in the current date one can not arrive at the lucky number of the day.

There are several books on this subject.

Anyway, your sense of humor is well appreciated.

Friends:

There is a proverb " Too many cooks spoil a Dinner"

If you follow too many ways you may not make money.

My simple suggestion to my fellow punters leave all these things

set aside all. If you want to make money follow a winning stable or frequently winning Jockey. If you want to make money in Races you have to ba Business Man and invest selective Races.

Whether you make money or not that is your luck but I can assure you will not lose. Even if you lose no problem you can take it as granted your loss is not forever iyou can recover it soon. Races are meant for people who have sufficient funds. Losers always small players only.By chance even if they win also they will continue to play the small amount they have won  and finall lose all that they had.  Making money is not so easy as everybody imagine or think.  You have to learn step by step. No one can become a millionnaire overnight.

They will continue to play small amount till they lose all.

Like any other trade you have to learn first before you decide to continue.

Regards to all 

ayyarnet

I will bet to all numerology experts to give numbers without knowing the name of the horse like before handicaps itself is that possible please grow up guys it's high time no breeds horse based on numerology please for godsake grow up

3 and 5 stuck in 5 out of 8 races. Maybe fluke or maybe...! Just to draw your attention, dear Raghavan.

ASTRO numero is useful for the people who don't understand proper racing track, but it can be tried as luck by using numero nunbers, if you seriously believe on this you have to beleive on the vaasthu Saatra also, which direction you are buying tickets, the place you r sitting bla bla bla,, other way you can try ASTRO numero when your home work  is not working on that particular day. 

At no time in the history of man kind ,respect for astrology has nose dived this low.It deserves to be treated like that.

Astrology = hoax = fantasy = junk science and loaded with garbage.

Astrology is a pseudo-science which claims that the positions of the heavenly bodies have an effect on the lives of human beings and events on Earth. Astronomers came to realize long ago that astrology was basically bunk.

Astrology only garners respect from folks that are generally not well - versed in science and mathematics.

The chance of mistake is 100%, because astrology is an illogical, delusional, and completely false pseudo-science invented by ancient barbarians to explain what they could not.

Do you honestly think that stars and planets can affect the social lives of humans? 

Astrology is no more correct than alchemy, witch-hunting, exorcising demonic possession,

Astrology doesn't work and they know perfectly well that it doesn't. You may as well throw dice to determine how long you will live.

Ignore it because it's nonsense.

Astrology is a combination of myth and superstition, wrapped in scientific sounding terms.

Anyone can name any 2 numbers  on any race day and its is bound to come  4 to 5 times in a day with an average of 60 horses numbers and 60 draw numbers. But still the sucess rate is less than 5%.

what is great in it?

 If you want to know about bodies influencing you at the time of your birth, ask where the doctor and nurses were standing in the delivery room, because their gravity affected you more than that of the planets

People who believe in numbers can also close their eyes and do 'tic tac toe' the money ,time and thought process spent on racing is probably the worst way to live life ...plenty of better things to do .....only if  you are making money its okay ....otherwise even coming out level on a monthly basis is not worth the effort . 

And in race num.8, Card Num. (8). CORMORANT may also Win.

(Contd. from the previous post.)

Today at Kolkatta, numbers (3) and (5) may be prominent. Consider only CARD NUMBERS.

In the 2nd race, Card Num. (6). DARING HEART looks good to strike. Merit and numerology (by extension as BKD mentions.)

Merit and race analysis necessarily take precedence over any logy.

Numerology is another weekness of a punter.The big thing in favour of numerology is that ,on an average eight horses run in a race , and one of them has to compulsorily win ! You give it the name of a theory , which becomes a justification fo others to lose their shirts !!

Over the years I have seen punters persisting with their Bus ticket numbers , race course admission ticket number ,birth date, race time etc.Needless to say all of them lost their shirts .

One worthy ,passed a big exacta winner & runner, one day.(single ticket ).Later he revealed his secret.He used to note down the draw number of first four finishers of previous race , and lo and behold his exacta ticket for present race (grand rs 10 ) was ready.Once he hit the successful formula ,he practiced it more --only , he took 4 horse combination.As could be expected ,he lost it all quickly and is back to rs 10.

The problem with numerology is whether you will choose card number or draw number or the number of alphabets of the horse.  Probably with some logic , people should try their own respective  lucky numbers on that given day rather going generally. 

I ain't trying to discredit numerology theory, but simply asking how can it be effectively used in a horse race ? 

Dear Raghavan ji,

My favourite topic. Thanks for bringing it up again. 

Those lucky day numbers, had been suggested by me, if I recall correctly. 

As you are aware, I have been principally following Mozan's 'number-name' theory for quite sometime now, with a little twist to the same, based on past records and modified, to some extent, based on current observation and results. The success ratio normally varies between  30 & 50%  on most days, with rare exceptions.

One thing however, I would like to clarify to all our readers is, that my observation // suggestion is strictly based on the  names of the competing horses in a race and the RULING number of the day. PERIOD.

IT HAS NO BEARING ON THE DATE OF THE RACE OR THE PLANETARY CONFIGURATION  FOR THE DAY. (THAT CAN ONLY BE COINCIDENTAL  AND MIGHT ONLY SERVE TO REINFORCE  MY OBSERVATION, IF AT ALL) 

HENCE, NO REFERENCE  IS EVER MADE TO THE DRAW NUMBERS WHICH IS IRRELEVANT. ONLY THE HORSE NUMBER HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO  CONSIDERATION.

Raghavan, your request to provide only one number for the day may not always be practical.

Reasons being......

Say, the Ruling number of a horse  is given as 2...it means there could be four possibilities ie.  7, 11 or even 16. Similarly, if it is 1, it also means, 4 ,10 & 13..

However, if it is given as 3 (12), 5 (14), 6 (15). 8 (17), 9 (18), it has only 2 possibilities.

In order to ZERO  it down to a single horse number for the particular race,  an element of judgement or discretion // experience / some handicapping skills etc, can be useful. (In fact, this elimination process, is the twilight zone, where one tends to make most mistakes) 

Therefore, my suggestions to an interested reader would be......

A.. The single number I provide in my selections, can be taken as the main number. I will do the prior elimination, on behalf of the readers, or mention separately, that the dual // opposite number needs to be considered or not)

B. I will advise them to bet mostly for WIN  // SHP ONLY. (Ratio 70: 30) If it is a hot race time favourite, ignore SHP... (taking a chance)

I guess, this is my understanding of this subject, and  personally speaking, I am not a regular loser.(Win more often than lose)

 Neither do I bet in all the races. When the luck factor is not working on a given day...I tend to shut shop early. 

MY RACING MANTRA......NEVER CHASE YOUR LOSSES. THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER DAY TO LOOK FORWARD TO. 

Thanks & Regards,

BKD

@ Raghavan

       Your posting reminds of story concerning Irish playwright G.B. Shaw. Shaw was once invited by a friend to go racing. He decined and said, "I know one horse runs faster than others and I do not need to go racing to see it being proved". His friend said "Bernanrd we also know that. We don't go racing to see it being proved. We go racing to see WHICH horse runs fastest".

      That story is relevent because a tipster who says "2 and 9 will be prominent today" will be proved right at least partially at end of day. Some even boast when horse No.2 gives Rs. 480 for THP in sixth race. Tipster will be doing service tp punters if he can say something like "In race No.2 draw  No 9 and in Race No 6 card No.2 have good chance of finishing in first three.

     What is required is specific pointer. Not general statement..

I agree with you 

raghavan sir

Today is 31+3+2021 .. ,,Final figure is 3...Three is best numero of the day. I have learnt little bit of numero from you guys...Ha ha ha ha