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By Chetan | 19-Nov-2021Hi Everyone,
Race 1 - KAMARIA (7)
Race 2 - ZUCCARELLI (3)
Race 3 - MARLBORO MAN (10)
Race 4 - CAMDEN TOWN (7)
Race 5 - PARISIAN (1)
Race 6 - NORTHERN LIGHTS (1)
Race 7 - BORN QUEEN (1)
Race 8 - GRAND ARCHITECT (3)
DAYS BEST - NORTHERN LIGHTS (6-1)
UPSET - ARABIAN MUKTHAR (8-10)
Regards
Chetan
113 Replies
Ksmrow said ...
30-Nov-2021Bangalore 26/11/21
1-3 capable (win) -1
1-10 Marvellous Maggi(place) -1
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2-3 The Sovereign orb(win) +.35
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2-2 Flamingo road(place)@evens
to88
7-3 Golden oaks(place)@1.5
double 2k
+9
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3-2 Win my Love (win) .8
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4-2 Power Lady(win) -1
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4-4 Stone House (place) -1
6-12 Teresita(win)dpuble 1k
~~~~-1
5-1 Douglas(win) ?
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6-4 Golden wings(win) -1
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8-2 perfect renidention(win) -1
8-7 Star and Garter(place) -1
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9-1 Drums of war(win) -1
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9-8 Speed Seven(win)?
-8+10.1(tax-1.3)
=+800
26 Bng:11bets12k=+800
Just one place bet saved the day
Corrected Table:-
15/11hyd:13bts14k=-1400+31900
21st pun11bts11k=+12900+30500
25Bng:9bts9k=-2500+43400
26Bng:11bts12k=+800+40900
27 kol:10bts10k=+2500+41700
27 hyd:11bts11k=-6500+44200
28 Pun:13bts13k=-9100+37700
52race days betting turn over ammount 569000 on 555Horses
3 days loss =116800
22 days profit=115400
profit/loss as on now (-1400)
My Betting Bank 30k
Balance as on now 28600
Ksmrow said ...
29-Nov-2021
Pune 28/11/2021
1-1Hellbent(win) -1
1-10 Shaadows(place) -1
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2-2 Arcadia(win) +1.2
2-5 Successor(win) -1
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3-4 Excelrator(place) to
5-6Rambler(place) 1k.
~~~~ -1
5-4 Tigrio(win) -1
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6-6 Dragoness(win) -1
6-7 Lit(win) -1
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7-2 IndianCrown(win) -1
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8-11 zuccarelli(win) +2
8-12 Queen O War(win) -1
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9-1 Arabian Phoenx(place) -1
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9-9 +3
10-4 Remy red(place) ?
(Played 9-9(w) cancelled 10-4)
-10+6.2
Tax -1.3
-5.1k actually lost,not counting this calculated loss as for original picks
= -11+3.2 Tax-1. 3
= -9100
Too many place bets made to miss pick winners in 3,9,10 races.
15/11hyd:13bts14k=-1400+31900
21st pun11bts11k=+12900+30500
25Bng:9bts9k=-2500+43400
26Bng:11bts12k=-3000+40900
27 kol:10bts10k=+2500+37900
27 hyd:11bts11k=-6500+40400
28 Pun:13bts13k=-9100+33900
52race days betting turn over ammount 569000 on 555Horses
31 days loss =119800
21 days profit=114600
profit/loss as on now (-5200)
My Betting Bank 30k
Balance as on now 24800
Roi(-0.9%). I will tighten up a little and draw clear parameters and stick to them in selecting bets and go for at least above +5%Roi
Ksmrow said ...
28-Nov-2021Thanks to chanakya ji, Glasgow Prince, Ab-delhi and The doc for their valuable remarks on my 500 bets Practical exercise, the process still going on as The doc said this achieved not to loose money, even after some mistakes of over reach and underplay able to grt this result. there is much scope for improvement of results if one strictly fallow his system I think anybody who has 25? SR in his single bets can go for this system and safe gourd his money in racing.
The Doc said ...
25-Nov-2021@ KSMROW
You did follow your system religiously and one must applaud your patience, discipline and perseverance.
The most important thing you have achieved here is not to lose and I think thats the biggest take away from this exercise. The ROI of 2.6 so far is not much to talk about. The ROI is as per your calcualtions. But the way i see it u now have bankroll of 43400 against the starting balance of 30,000 that means you have 13400 surplus. That is around 44% gain. That is something you can boast about.
There have been people who have tried to do what you have done but failed miserably. I have noticed you have not played more than 2 horses in any race, have taken some rolls as well as played places too. Thats quite a good mix. Keep going and i am sure you will fine tune it
I am not so good in maths but i think you are calculating ROI wrong way. I think you r calculating ROI on turnover and not on capital.
Glasgow Prince said ...
23-Nov-2021Ksmrow,
First of all kudos to you for your sincerity, modesty, honesty and hard work.
In my opinion, a ROI of 2.6 % is far too low to assure a punter that he will always be on the plus side. It may easily go into the negative territory ove a longer period. On the whole, it is neither here nor there............does not justify the hard work put in but I am sure you will keep improving your system. Hats off to your perseverence.
Kautilya said ...
23-Nov-2021Final Score by 15/1/2021
HIQ: - 48.4
LIQ: + 75.05
21/11/2021 Pune
HIQ: 0.0
LIQ: -3.3
Final Score by 21/11/2021
HIQ: - 48.4 + 0.0 = ( -48.4 )
LIQ: + 75.05 - 3.3 = ( + 71.75 )
Seetharama Rao said ...
23-Nov-2021ON 21.11.2021 PUNE'21
GRAND ARCHITECT WON 1N 1200 M TIME 1.11.33 NOT GOOD TIME.
SANDRA'S SECRET 2ND PLACE .
NOT TO PLAY ON SANDRA'S SECRET.
Ab-delhi said ...
23-Nov-2021Ksmrow
Good to see that after more than 500 bets you are in plus. You very honestly displayed all your bets . last Sunday in pune was ur best day which helped you to remain in plus. Your result shows that it is very difficult to develop a system in racing . money is the utmost satisfaction in racing. If you calculate the cost of visiting the race course then you made no money. This shows that playing more than one horse per race doesn't work.
Chase said ...
23-Nov-2021@ Raghavan Sir, Your Tongue in Cheek comments on Alpha Gene were simply hilarious.
" And the Pune race in which Alpha Gene ran was several times superior to the Melbourne cup race. Another 4 or 5 outings, Alpha Gene will definitely finish 4th in a 6 horse field! ". Wow. That is classic Stephen Leecock , the Canadian satirist that I enjoyed reading long back!
Satire comes naturally to you.
Why don't you consider Writing Satire , a skill sorely lacking in our country, seriously!
Chanakya said ...
22-Nov-2021Congratulations for proving that it is possble to win and make money from betting on races. Also proving that by betting on all or most of the races of the day it is possble to win.
I want to highlight one point. Few days back or perhaps till two days back, your ROI was just a bit more than 1% + but today it went up to more than 2% - a 100% rise!
Why?
Because you took chance or attempted to include an 'outsider' - Grand Architect, in your betting plan whose success increased the ROI. I am a firm believer in this kind of betting; because to make money and a decent ROI a punter should include this kind of bet in his plan.
Although I am reducing my interaction to negligible, perhaps to nil in coming days: I would advise you to keep going and proving to naysayers the truth that it is possible to win and make money from racing.
Goodluck and goodbye...
Vijayakumar said ...
22-Nov-2021@ Raghavan,
I agree with your views.
As some one claim here, dynamic rating has nothing to do with the outcome of this equine sport. For example, why the tricks of Pessi Shroff, who won the Villoo Poonawala Gold Cup with a rank outsider RAMBUNCTIOUS as against his own atablemate and public fancy ALLURING SILVER, cannot be foreseen with the so called dynamic ratings before hand.
Beyond all our calculations, we saw horses winning in racing unexpectedly and ultimately all our bettings with totalisators and bookies have failed.
I openly say, no one can conquere this sport. That's the magic of this royal game.
Mak_95 said ...
22-Nov-2021LongerOdds
You are genius. Keep it up.
Ksmrow said ...
22-Nov-2021
My bets with bookies 21/11/21
1-3 Sunlord(win) -1
1-5 Brazos(place) -1
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3-2 immeasurable (win) to
8-3 GrandArchitect(place)double1k +2.6
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3-10 Marlboro Man(win) -1
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4-8 Kinnara(win) +1.6
4-4 perfect star(win) -1
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6-5 Multistarrer(win) +4
6-9 Chancellor (win) -1
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7-1Born Queen (win) -1
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8-3 Grand Archtect(win) +10
8-5 power of Neath(place) +2
All 1k each
Tax -1.3k
=+12900
With today betting done on 501tips practically backed with bookies
Overall With today wagered ammount totalled Rs514,000 even after 47 race days betting on 501 horses I am able to hold on to my 30000 Bank Balance got profit 13.4k after 21st Sunday races I said will get final figures Here it is:- Final statement-
1/11Bng:11bts11k=-2500+45600
2/11Bng:11bts11k=-1000+43100
3/11mys:10bts10k=+900+42100
4/11mys:13bts13k=-7200+43000
6/11kol: 6bts 8k=+3200+35800
7/11pun:14bts14k=+9800+39000
8/11hyd:11bets11k=-8600+48800
10/11mys:10Bets10k=-400+40200
13/11kol:7bts7k=-2400+39800
13/11pun:10bts10k=-6000+37400
14/11pun:10bts12k=+3900+31400
14/11hyd:12bts12k=-3400+35300
15/11hyd:13bts14k=-1400+31900
21st pun11bts11k=+12900+30500
47race days betting turn over ammount 514000 on 501Horses
27 days loss =98700
20 days profit=112100
my profit as on now 13400
My Betting Bank 30k
Balance as on now 43400
Roi(+2.6%)well below my target.
Nothing to shout Big ,but it gave me immense satisfaction pleasure in backing all my tips moreover finish in winning circle,I thank also my Bookie Friend for what he did
He used to get my bet list before first race and bet accordingly.
500 bets in 47 race days covering all centers except delhi is quite a big Sample I will be happy if our Ht experts and experienced come out with their remarks iam asking only those one believes and already working in solving racing puzzle my call is not for non believers.
Bharat said ...
22-Nov-2021Did race club or bookies pay punters for bets on Alpha. Alpha lost distance at start but finished 11.75 lengths behind winner. By using that logic Horse finished first beating Kamaria by 1/4 length. So much Gyan for a mediocre horse with mediocre rider reason for everyone to thrash it. But one self confessed expert is still not ready to accept defeat. Giving bizarre theories to justify the recommendation.
Ruchi said ...
22-Nov-2021Hi Larry,
Good to see yr post.How come you don't post your strong numbers now days?
Coming back to the main topic.. actually there is a age old proverb in my mother tongue GUJERATI..which when translated goes like this " No point in preaching the Bhagwat Gita" in front of BUFFALO ( BUFFALOES)"..The proverb says it all.
By the by only two guys came up on the Failure if ALPHA GENE...I expected more.Two is below standard for my post.
By the bu nobody commented on the HOT TIP ARABIAN MUKHTAR..which ran like a dud ......nor did any one come up on my prediction of a 10/1 shot GRAND ARCHITECT( before race posted at 4:55)
Admin: be fair and do post this
Raghavan said ...
22-Nov-2021Larry,
Chieftan ran 3rd. Gave me modest dividend on Exacta. Of course, 180/- was my investment in exacta. You are right about Sun Lord that ran nowhere.
Ruchi may be a hero to you. And for that matter to many horsetalk members also. But, Ruchi is a paid tipster and it will do both Ruchi & his customers immense good if he gives tips to his customers only. As far as I am concerned, there is no one exceptionally superior tipster & also no one hopelessly inferior tipster in this site.
I have no problem/s with his dynamic ratings. But, I have strong reservations in respect of his astro numero tips.
Alphe Gene was board out. And Ruchi had tipped it for place. His logic was that it is too good as per dynamic ratings. Those who believed him paid the penalty.
When ignoring his commitment to his customers and gives free tips to horsetalk members, Ruchi will do well to tip only the horse that has proven credentials. Such tips may either score or finish board out..no problem. He should not tip dummy pieces like Alpha Gene!
Raghavan said ...
22-Nov-2021Bharat,
Alpha Gene finished a creditable 6th out of 8 runners. Must give due credit to that performance. Do not ridicule. In Melbourne cup, they give prizes (stake money) to the first 12 finishers. And the Pune race in which Alpha Gene ran was several times superior to the Melbourne cup race. Another 4 or 5 outings, Alpha Gene will definitely finish 4th in a 6 horse field!
Dinesh G said ...
21-Nov-2021Ksmrow Sir last race you made fantastic selection God bless you sir
Bharat said ...
21-Nov-2021Larry, holding bucket for expert who was so confident . What matters I his bets. As far saying that 3 our of 4 placed. Obviously anyone putting top 4 favorites in that race would have got 3 right. No rocket science. Every race , put top 4 favorites 2-3 will place in 8 out of 1o races. No expertise needed.
M.murali said ...
21-Nov-2021Hello Priya,
My friend is a keen observer of your tips and told me that you have given this tip born queen to win after a long time.As my friend suggested I did bet good amount and lost.No regrets from my side as I backed it,but just want to know how much did you backed it with as you have given its your best bet?
Ruchi said ...
21-Nov-2021The ratings for last race...TOP FOUR
8=GREY FALCON (595)-GRAND ARCHIET (590)-TIMLESS DEEDS (580)-SANDARAS SECRET (576)
Analysis= keep a eye on grey falcon... can surprise all.TIMLESS DEEDS will be outpaced.GREY FALCON has blinding speed if ON can make all run.GRAND ARCHITECT can come of the pace.So it boils down to GREY FALCON AND GRAND ARCHIET..Both 15/1 outsider and 3/1 place GO FOR IT EACH WAY
Chase said ...
21-Nov-2021AlphaGene and Arabian Mukhtar .... What kind of discussion is this? The more Tom- Tom Expert Talks, The More Revelation !
Khemka said ...
21-Nov-2021Vikas tamang very good. Keep give us your tips every day.
Gundoo said ...
21-Nov-2021VIKAS TAMANG YOU ARE GREAT 5 WINNERS FOR PESI SHROFF, YOU PREDICTED 5 TO 6. NORTHERN LIGHTS BAD HANDLING IT COULD HAVE BEEN 6. GREAT. YOU ARE THE CHAMP.
Ruchi said ...
21-Nov-2021BHARAT.....
Don't strain BHARAT..ALPHA GENE...did run.Was left at the gates by a distance,finished 6 th a total of 10 lengths from the winner.
Now distance means 15 lengths ,if you know what is racing ...So with a level break ....you don't need a binoculars to calculate where it would have finished.
Any way my Top four as per DYNAMIC RATING WERE as put up in this forum yesterday itself
ALPHA- WALK THE TALK - KIMAYRA- BRAZOS
KIMAYRA (WON) WALK THE TALK (2 ND) BRAZOS (4TH)
Three of short list came on board...
CHEERS
Bharat said ...
21-Nov-2021Tried to look through my Binocular at the winning post for Alpha Gene . Could not spot the horse nor rider. By then telecast stopped. Can anyone update. Was it withdrawn .
Larry said ...
21-Nov-2021Results of the 1st race are out, and both Sunlord and Chieftain have not even placed. Out of the 4 horses that worked out as per Ruchi's DR 3 have figured on board, however, at the end of the day, all that would be posted by many is the fact that Alpha Gene did not win or place, nothing else, now that is the way people on this forum think, can't really help it, anyways, Ruchi, good work, you post once in a while these days - which is quite understandable - however, whenever you post, even if I'm strong on a particular horse, and if that does not figure in your scheme of things, I go back and check, about my choice, vis-a-vis yours, and then make my decision.
Ramesh Sharma said ...
21-Nov-2021Today 6=7 Winter W/P one horse for the day All the best
Vsr said ...
21-Nov-2021Pune selections:
Race 1: 7 Kamaria EW, 2 Chieftan for place.
Race 2: 3 Zuccarelli WIN- one horse Race.
Race 3: 2 Immeasurable and 10 MM will fight out, 10 MM for WIN and 2 for SHP.
Race 4: 4 Perfect man WIN.
Race 5: 1 Parsian WIN.
Race 6: 1 NL is fav, 5 MS, 7 Winter and 9 Chancellor have chance, if 1 NL is not tied then 5 MS and 9 Chancellor will fight out, 9 will get it from 1 and 5 as it is due for WIN.
Race 7: 2 AS was fav based on OAKS run as 1 BQ ran 8th in that race and it'll reverse the placings with Sandesh riding the BQ.
1 BQ WIN .
Race 8: 4 SS EW.
ATB frds. :)
Mahendrakumar Mathur said ...
21-Nov-2021- SUN LORD 3 sure
- ZUCCARELLI 3 sure
- MARLBOROMAN 10 sure
- KINNARA 8
- PARISIAN 1sure
- MULTISTARRER 5
- BORNQUEEN 1
- SANDRA;SSCRET 4
the selections are based on ASTROLOGY and are only for WIN or SHP
Ruchi said ...
21-Nov-2021VIKAS TAMANG ..thanks for the excellent tip at good odds ARABIAN MUKTHAR BUT....
My view is AM is a Speedy sort,likes to race freely in front.It runs it's best race when FREE IN FRONT.
Today GREY FALCON,SANDRAS SECRET,ARABIAN STIRM are all speedier than ARABIAN.Also TIMLESS DEEDS and GRAND ARCHIET can come off the pace.
If ARABIAN MUKHTAR does not hit front ,it will be running 2,.nd or 3 rd till bend and then fizzle out.Ut has no finishing speed.
Withit speedier horses today I feel AM WILL BE BOARD OUT.REST IS RACING anything can happen
K. said ...
21-Nov-2021Hii
Srry for wrong Information CANCEL(FLYING VISIT)
ADD (GRAND ACCORD) BIG ODDS
K I N G K O N G said ...
21-Nov-2021Hi Friends,take a look at the odds ,do you think is it worth to play such races,@ paises all race favorites
Ksmrow said ...
21-Nov-2021My bets with bookies 21/11/21
1-3 Sunlord(win)
1-5 Brazos(place)
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3-2 immeasurable (win) to
8-3 GrandArchitect(place)double1k
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3-10 Marlboro Man(win)
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4-8 Kinnara(win)
4-4 perfect star(win)
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6-5 Multistarrer(win)
6-9 Chancellor (win)
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7-1Born Queen (win)
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8-3 Grand Archtect(win)
8-5 power of Neath (place)
All 1k each
Ruchi said ...
21-Nov-2021A little more MASALA on ALPHA GENE.We all do some system or other to analyse and predict the outcome.It works most times and DO FAIL TOO AT TIMES as no system is infallible.So here goes
Analysis= CHIEFTAIN and SUN LORD have had only one run each , so their DR is not yet established. So, cannot comment much on the potential of these. from balance, well, ALPHA GENE is TOP RATED which has surprised me too. this horse has not yet hit the board , but yet is TOP RATED. That is the beauty of this suystem.May be the horse has some potential. I just watched the last run of ALPHA GENE, after i found that it was top rated.In race (34) it was slow off, Lost 5 lengths, it was 8 lengths behind the last horse and 15 lengths behind the Front runner. It Maintained same position till turning for home. it entered the home stretch 8 lengths behind the last horse. but then with minimum effort it finished 8th. It was just 5.5 lengths behind the 3 rd placed horse. So although we assume that BAWAJI and RASPUTIN, who finished 0ne-two are too good (they finished 6 lengths ahead of the 3rd horse) then ALPHA GENE finished just under 5 lengths from 3rd place. that means it must have covered at least 10 lengths or so. in fact it beat (4) horses who finished behind it.inspite of being detached at bend.
That was over 1600 mts, today 200 mts more to go, its demoted to VB. All this prompts me to feel that ALPHA GENE may surprise all today by at least hitting the board. I AM NOT SAYING it will WIN, but with r SHELAR it will be 10/1 in PLACE. why not take a chance. For TOP SPOT i feel BRAZOS and WALK IN PARK are good chances.
IF IT LOSES TODAY,THE DYNAMIC NUMBERS ARE DEFINITELY GOOD AND WORTH WHILE FOLLOWING ALPHA GENE . Definitely horse has some potential
Crk said ...
21-Nov-20211. WALK THE TALK
3...WINTER STORM... EACH WAY.
4...CAMEDON TOWN.
6...MULTISTARRER
7...SULTAN SULEIMAN...BORN QUEEN.
8...SANDRA'S SECRET/ISTANBUL...TIMELESS DEEDS.
Abhay...pune said ...
21-Nov-2021MY SELECTIONS
R NO-1-H NO-7-KAMARIA
After interference soon after start she finish close 3rd by less tha 2ls over mile trip now running over extended trip with same rider with same weight,good track work.
R NO-2-H NO-3-ZUCCARELLI
3year old maiden race,good 2nd to too good MIRACALE in HYD DR,now running with very weak company,pleasing track work.
R NO-3-H NO-6-WINTER STORM
In her debut run easy 6th by 6.5ls from 11th position over 1000mts in same class now running over 1400mts with 2kg less,working good on track,jockey change.
R NO-4-H NO-8-KINNARA
3year old maiden race,vastly improve.
R NO-5-H NO-1-PERISIAN
IN TOP FORM.
R NO-6-H NO-9-CHANCELLOR
Due 4year old proper class 4 gelding,failed favorite two time in last PUNE season over 1200 & 1400mts,ignore last lung opner run from very out side draw,now running over same dist with same weight with same jockey,superior track work.SHOULD WIN TODAY.
R NO-7-H NO-1-BORN QUEEN
Top rated [115] classic filly,notable winner over same dist by 3.5ls in OOT,fluent track work,good handicap today.
R NO-8-H NO-4-SANDRAS SECRET
Winner over 1000mts,in last run after forward run he finish close 2nd over 1400mts by just ns now running over short dist with strong rider.
DAYS BEST BET R NO-6-H NO-9-CHANCELLOR
DOUBLE R NO-3-H NO-6-WINTER STROM TO R NO-7-H NO-1-BORN QUEEN.
BEST OF LUCK...
Golden Viper said ...
21-Nov-2021Todays races are a joke on us.
How does one play Pessis horses at such odds!
Barring race 4 al are winners So after spending rs 1000 a watch race day
THe only uppsetter I see is Sultan Suliaman take an each wasy chance.
Last race better to close shop as an upset on the cards.
Why this scene Sunderjee the onjy challenger to Pess is in Hyd Toddaywalla is still to recover andI Sait only token resistence others do not count
Kautilya said ...
21-Nov-20216-9 Chancellor
8-1 Carlos win plc
Ruchi said ...
21-Nov-2021A request tothe Genuis members here to give their opinions on hot tip of ARABAIAN MUKHTAR PLACE,given by another prominent member.
Let not your GENIUS know how and comment come only for my posts.Do spread your knowledge on the HOT TIP put up ,my GENIUS HANDICAPPERS AND KNOW ALL'S
Mad Max said ...
21-Nov-2021@ Ruchi
The first race is in between these three horses - SUNLORD, CHIEFTAIN, KAMARIA - only. And I like them FINISH in that order.
Ruchi said ...
21-Nov-2021Some say ALPHA GENE is a " UNPROVEN" horse is laughable....my dear sir(s) this is just the third start of this 3 yr old ,it has lot of scope to prove itself.
Let us see how it runs today....if it fails ,well the dynamic numbers are good so definitely one for the note .
I know whatever I post is taken in other way.If I say ALPHA GENE has place chance and it loses then whole HT will pounce .whatever I post a battery of people are ready and waiting if it proves otherwise ,then that's it.
Guys this is racing everone has a right to opine,take it if you like,leave it if you don't..
Jai Kumar said ...
21-Nov-20211 7 KAMARIA win
2 3 ZUCCARELLI win
3 2 IMMEASURABLE win
4 2 JUGHEAD place
5 1 PARISIAN win
6 5 MULTISTARRER win place
7 2 ALLURING SILVER win
8 4 SANDRA'S SECRET win place
Upsets
1 9 WALK THE TALK
2 4 ANIMOUS
3 8 PRINCESS SNOW
4 1 CONNAUGHT
6 6 MAGIC IN THE WIND
7 6 SULTAN SULEIMAN
8 1 CARLOS
Godzilla said ...
21-Nov-2021After looking at odds, in first Race, please play
1. LIGHTNINGONMYFEET .. PLACE .. as not very confident about SUNLORD.
Vikas Tamang said ...
21-Nov-2021Hi friends , Today last race big gamble on Arabian Muktar horse no 10 place is a certainty, play small win and good place,Big gamble ,All the Best.
Varun Kumar said ...
21-Nov-2021Kautilya sir plz post tips tq
Thank u indiarace
Seetharama Rao said ...
21-Nov-2021RACE N0.8 HORSE N0.4
SANDRA'S SECRET 5YO
CARD NO.3 1000 M WON 0.58.67 GOOD TIME.
Wild Card Entry said ...
21-Nov-20211. 9 walk the talk 5 brazos or 6 alphine genie
2. 3 zucerelli or 1 if shroff gambles
3. 10 malboro man outsider 5 flash force
4. 2 jug head 4 perfect man
5. 1 parisan
6 5 multistarrer
7 7 sultan suleman or 2 alluring silver
8 5 power of neath or 6 istan bul
Wild Card Entry said ...
21-Nov-20211. 9 walk the talk 5 brazos or 6 alphine genie
2. 3 zucerelli or 1 if shroff gambles
3. 10 malboro man outsider 5 flash force
4. 2 jug head 4 perfect man
5. 1 parisan
6 5 multistarrer
7 7 sultan suleman or 2 alluring silver
8 5 power of neath or 6 istan bul
Raj said ...
21-Nov-2021Pune race (21-11-2021).
1-9 walk the talk place.
2-3 zuccarelli win .
3-4 Seminole place.
4-3 Nord win (fluke bet).
5-1 Parisian win (days best bet).
6-9 chancellor win.
7-7 victorious sermon place.
8-6 Istanbul place.
Good luck friends...........
Jagadeesh M said ...
21-Nov-20211. Chieftain
2.Zuccarelli
3.Winter Strom
4.Jughead
5.parisian
7.Alluring Silver
Munesh said ...
21-Nov-2021Today, Pune race course will be Pessi's exclusive play ground! Unending procession of pessi's winners!
Celebrate!
Cheers!!!
Pinka said ...
21-Nov-2021pune 1 st race = 9 WALK THE TALK
Sashi said ...
21-Nov-2021If Alpha Gene is top rated it reflects very poorly on the rating system adopted. Why say it will be 10-1 place and worth betting. For a hopeless horse Even Rs 10 wagered will be wasted.
Shashi said ...
21-Nov-20211 lightning on my feet.
2 zuccareli
3 malboro man
4 kinnara
5-parisian
6 multistarrer
7 alluring silver
8 sandra secret
Ashokmysore said ...
21-Nov-20211-3. 2
2-2
3-4
4-2. 4
5-1. 2
6-5
7-6. 1
8-3. 2
Race Handicaping said ...
21-Nov-20211-9 place
2-3 win
3-9 place
4- *****
5-1 win
6-9 place
7-6 place
8-9 place
Play safe
Chaplin Chuckles said ...
21-Nov-2021Kamaria going as the favourite is a good joke to start with day. This stable pick-pockted the punters with all their winning wards this season. Can't believe this horse is the favourite!
Marlboro Man from this teeny-weeny stable shown as the leading one by the satchel boys. Your money will definitely be puffed-in and rings of anguish blown at you.
Alluring Silver at measly odds - My god! The tiny Pune home stretch will spell her doom. Realise that before expecting her to turn into Glittering Gold.
Sandra's Secret left the punters in tatters in first win this season and you expect her to clothe you as the favourite now. Get real, man!
Fluke Master said ...
20-Nov-2021First: Fashinably bred LIGHTNINGONMYFEET for the early birds to get their worms fast and quick.
Second: ZUCCARELLI all the way. Danger stablemate Botero. Crafty master at work. Be cautious.
Third: SEMINOLE is likely to smoke out Marlboro Man.
Fourth: NORD to set the jackpot leg tumble to three digits.
Fifth: PARISIAN stands tall and mighty like Eiffel Tower.
Sixth: SERGIO may make Jackpot leg dwindle to double digits.
Seventh: FLYING VISIT will further reduce the Jackpot leg to single digits.
Eight: Wily CARLOS will be the lone man standing in the final leg.
Be brave and back with conviction if the given ones match your picks.
Racebro said ...
20-Nov-2021Hi All,
1-7 KAMARIA - Consider the last run 3rd a lung opener over 1600m which was not bad. Prior run 3rd last season over 2000m was an excellent one clocking 2:4:94 Should win in this category and distance well within reach. Bhawani knows the horse well and retained.
2-3 ZUCCARELLI - By Western Aristocrat. Performed well 2-3-2 Last run 2nd behind Miracle in Deccan Derby over 2000m was an excellent one 2:4:74 This might be a one horse race.
3-10 MARLBORO MAN - Recent 2nd over 1400m in a lower category race 1:26:48 Now running in higher class but has a huge weight advantage of 6Kgs. Seminole should run well and a good place prospect.
4-8 KINNARA - By Kingsman. Its a huge breed. The filly is light weight. Just had one run over 1200m was 6.75L 6th with timings of 1:10:44 which is good. Must have come up with the run and sure to go one better this time in this maiden race.
5-1 PARISIAN - By Champ Elysees. After 2nd to Juleitte in Hyd over 2400m was a run away winner by 8L recently over 2000m in Pune. I dont see anyone matching his stirdes. Caprisca is good for shp.
6-1 NORTHERN LIGHTS - By Lethal Force. It was my Days Best last time. Will stay the Days Best again in this race. Running in same category has the guidance of an apprentice to take off few Kgs to its advantage. Chancellor who is done better timings over the same distance is a good place bet.
7-1 BORN QUEEN - Is 6 out of 8 runs. Should be able to come on top of the bunch in this G3 race. I see Augustus Caesar a very good place bet who ran a very good race over 1200m clocking 1:8:93.By Holy Roman Emperor, a mile will suit.
8-9 ARABIAN STORM - Who ran recently over 1200m with slightly better timings than the stalbemate Timeless Deeds. I would recommend an eachway bet.
DOUBLE: KAMARIA - MARLBORO MAN
TREBLE: KINNARA - PARISIAN - NORTHERN LIGHTS
DAYS BEST: BORN QUEEN
Bhavani Varaprasad said ...
20-Nov-2021Pune race (21-11-2021).
1-9 walk the talk place.
2-3 zuccarelli win .
3-4 Seminole place.
4-3 Nord win (fluke bet).
5-1 Parisian win (days best bet).
6-9 chancellor win.
7-7 victorious sermon place.
8-6 Istanbul place.
Good luck friends...........
Transparency said ...
20-Nov-2021Meh Aaya Tere liye
Which Bookie is giving 10/1 place ......
When had R Shelar last Won .......
What is Sandra's Secret .......
How many Pesi going to Win
Had a former Pune Champion Trainer now not in contention
That's the basic questions in mind of Punters .......
Kalu Bhai said ...
20-Nov-20211-7,9
2-3
3-2
5-1
6-1
7-6ew
8-4ew
Noddy said ...
20-Nov-20211_CHIEFTAIN
2_ZUCCARELLI
3_SEMINOLE
4_JUGHEAD
5_PARISIAN
6-WINTER
7-SULTAN SULEIMAN
8-SANDRA'S SECRET
K. said ...
20-Nov-2021PLAY AS PER YOUR FUND DEMAND AND SUPPLY
WITH TERMS AND CONDITIONS
2 - 3
3 - 2 win
4 - 8
6 - 5 open
7 - 4
8 - 2
SULTAN SULEIMAN (SHP/THP)
MULTISTARRER (OPEN)
FLYING VISIT (BIG ODDS)
IMMEASURABLE (WIN CONFIRM)
Taher Memon said ...
20-Nov-20211-7w/p
2-3w good
3-10p
4-8w/p
5-1w
6-1w
7-1w
8-2w/p
Hemanth said ...
20-Nov-20211- 2 CHIEFTAIN tracking nicely can fight for top houners
2-3 ZUCCARELLI most experienced horse in this set easily win this race
3-2 IMMEASURBLE pesi shroff for get double here
4-8- KINNARA likely tower over this opposition
5-1 PARISIAN tracked impressively extend the winning sequence here
6-1 NORTHERN LIGHTS one to beat
7-2 ALLURING SILVER bold show here.....
Critic said ...
20-Nov-2021Dynamic Ruchi Rating Alpha Gene as the best in this field is indeed laughable. He is likely to be first only if te count starts from the rear. No ghost of a chance.
Don't waste money on an unproven horse from an unreliable stable. Common horse sense dictates that.
Sultan ..the Money Maker said ...
20-Nov-2021Hi HT friends .....tomorrow
Race ..6...7...WINTER ...win ...single shoot horse at longer odds....each way bet suggest....
Crk said ...
20-Nov-2021Ruchi is no doubt a good race analyst and his selection, ALPHA GENE may come into his Dynamic Rating, but the horse, in my view, shows no sign of being in form.
My choice is the bottom weight with the good allowance rider astride WALK THE TALK .and my horse of the day.
Ruchi said ...
20-Nov-2021Hello all
ALPHA GENE IN FIRST RACE IS TOP IN RATING
Just see the run of ALPHA GENE.Last run it was slow off the gates.Was a detached last ,bad last in fact.St 1200:,mts it was 8 lengths behind the last horse,at 800 it was distance behind , entered the home stretch a detached last .Then see where it finished ,8 th beating 4 horses in spite of being detached at bend.The first two horses were 6 lengths clear if rest but interestingly ALPHA was just under 4 lengths of the 3rd ,4 th,5 th,6 th and 7 th placed.
That was over 1600 mts after having got left.Tommorow it's iver 1800 mts,+ it's TOP IN DYNAMIC Rating and if it gets a level jump .....the possibilities are very good.Fingers crossed
Go Cool Punter said ...
20-Nov-20213-4
Rrajesh said ...
20-Nov-20211st.... LAY SUNLORD
2nd ...ZUCCARELLI
3rd : marboro man
4th jughead place win
5th parisian
6th X
7TH born queen and alluring silver
8th : ISTANBUL WIN PLACE
Robert said ...
20-Nov-2021Race no 1: 7. Kamaria
Race no 2: 3.Zuccarelli
Race no 3: 10. Marlboro man
Race no 4: 6. Angels trumpet
Race no 5: 1.parisian
Race no 6: 7. Winter
Race no 7: 2. Alluring silver
Race no 8 : 9. Arabian storm or 11 grey falcon upset.
JP: F/1/5,7/2/6,9,11 @ Rs 480
Pg said ...
20-Nov-2021Have my own doubts if Alluring Silver will win the Poonawalla cup, for obvious reasons.
Chase said ...
20-Nov-2021Kamaria for the first race . Both Brazos and Walk The Talk will not be on board.
Krishtm said ...
20-Nov-202132 Immeasurable
51 Parisian
61 Northern Lights
72 Alluring Silver
@horseracing555 said ...
20-Nov-2021Sunday, November 21, 2021 PUNE (IND)
1=7*KAMARIA
2=3*ZUCCARELLI
3=2*IMMEASURABLE
4=X*X
5=1*PARISIAN
6=6*MAGIC IN THE WIND
7=6*SULTAN SULEIMAN
8=5*POWER OF NEATH
Ad said ...
20-Nov-2021Viloo Poonawalla cup should easily be won by ALLURING SILVER.
Robert said ...
20-Nov-2021Born queen will bite the dust yet again Alluring silver will win.
Ankit said ...
20-Nov-2021Ruchi...ji..very interesting analysis..thank u...
Krishtm said ...
20-Nov-2021Looks like Mr & Mrs Vijay B Shirke's day
C. R. Dass said ...
20-Nov-2021Kamaria... Winter storm.... Magic in the wind
Royal Tiger said ...
20-Nov-2021Pesi horse only 3 win tomorrow
Balance are pepsi
G C Raj said ...
20-Nov-2021pune 21/11/21 selections
1)walk the tak(9)--kamaria(7)
2)zucarreli(3)
3)immeasurable(2)--marlboroman(10)
4)kinnara(8)--perfect man(4)
5)PARISIAN(1)
6)MULTISTARER(5)--NORTHERN LIGHTS(1)
7)2LLURING SILVER(2)--BORNQUEEN(1)
8)SANDRASECRET(4)--ISTANBUL(6)
ALL THE BEST
Vishal said ...
20-Nov-20212-3 Zuccarelli
5-1 Parisian
7-6 Sultan Suleiman
3 Good Bets for the Day.
Pramod Kumar said ...
20-Nov-2021My selections:
Race 1 -- KAMARIA
Race 2 -- ZUCARELLI
Race 3 --- MARLBORO MAN
Race 4 & 5 --- NO BET
Race 6 --- CHANCELLOR
Race 7 -- BORN QUEEN
Race 8 -- GREY FALCON
Wazzbond said ...
20-Nov-2021Sir Aditya puna Vikas sir please give please give selection ,
Ruchi said ...
20-Nov-2021LOT of HT members feel that the two youngsters SUNLORD and CHIEFTAIN will be at the busy end in the first race.They both have had a run each Most times the DYNAMIC RATING is established after minimum three runs and it's not correct to judge the potential after just one run.,but sometimes horses have very poor rating after one run and that too after finishing on Board.That has what happened to SUNLORD AND CHIEFTAIN.
After one run and in spite of hitting the board their rating is very very poor.Its (498) and (495) respectively.Very very poor.I feel both horses have less chance TOMMORROW
That is why I am tempted to give the DR of the first race.with my detailed thoughts of the race.
The TOP FOUR with good rating are
ALPHA GENE(535)-WALKTHE TALK (535)- KIMARA (530)-BRAZOS(521)
Analysis= Yes ALPHA GENE with R Shelar is top in rating.Suprised? so am I but my working shows that.I expect that ALPHA GENE will be 10/1 place and is worth a bet For the top spot I feel with good rating WALK THE TALK if jumps out well from the gates ,will fight out with BRAZOS Incidentally BRAZOS is the owner mate of the raging hot choice of all....SUNLORD.
VIKAS TAMANG and many have counted a super (6) for pesi ,if you have counted SUNLORD and NORTHERN LIGHTS in your super (6) for pesi....please have a re look both may FAIL.At best a TREBLE for pessi nothing more I guess.is my feeling.
Just my thoughts .....all those who want to pounce in case I am proved wrong then....please keep your brick bats to yourself.
This is after all Racing and Pessi is a "Master."
Shayan said ...
20-Nov-2021DEAR ALL
RACE NO1# 9 WALK THE TALK(DONT IGNORE)
RACE NO2# 3 ZUCCARELLI
RACE NO3# 10 MARLBORO MAN
RACE NO4# 2 JUGHEAD
RACE NO5# 1 PARISIAN(PLAY UNLIMITED)
RACE NO6# 9 CHANCELLOR
RACE NO7# 1 BORN QUEEN
RACE NO8# 4 SANDRA'S SECRET(DAYS BEST)
REGARDS
SHAYAN
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Robert said ...
20-Nov-2021Thanks Mr.darkfelt for the information
Deepzzz said ...
20-Nov-2021All r tipping BORN QUEEN as we saw in OAKS
BORN QUEEN was not at all match up with AS recently AS 3rd to JULIETTE which is in good form my selection as per track and home advantage and form ALLURING SILVER should romp the trophy
Rashi said ...
20-Nov-20218 -- 2 - TIMELESS DEEDS (WIN)
Chase said ...
20-Nov-2021@ Vikas Tamang: You are a personification of the Eternal Optimist in punting enthusiasts. Always Hopeful. Brushing off failures and Diassapointments. Resilient. Somethinging very noble. All The Best To You.
Priya said ...
20-Nov-2021Born Queen ... Sandesh will win the race..
1st race and 8th race upset chance with jockey p.s kavraj ( each way )...
Thank you.. all the best.
Vijay Tamil said ...
20-Nov-202121/11/2021 PUNE Race Selection
R 1 - 2 - CHIEFTAIN - P
R 2 - 3 - ZUCCARELLI - Win
R 3 - 10 - MARLBORO MAN - W/P
R 4 - 2 - JUGHEAD - W/P
R 5 - 1 - PARISIAN - Win (P.Shroff - Double)
R 6 - 9 - CHANCELLOR - P
R 7 - 1 - BORN QUEEN - Win - Day's Best
R 8 - 1 - CARLOS - P
Day's Best - R 7 - 1 - BORN QUEEN
All The Best
Cinch said ...
20-Nov-2021GOOD MORNING
2ND RACE ANIMOUS EXCELLENT EACHWAY BET
7TH RACE GRAND ACCORD EXCELLENT PLACE BET.
GOOD LUCK.
Darkfelt said ...
19-Nov-2021@Robert not yet. Entry only for Owners and Members.
Best Regards
Wazzbond said ...
19-Nov-2021Good evening to all sir can I know what is the entry fee in puna
Transparency said ...
19-Nov-2021Sergio ridden by Zervan and Dallas Chancellor had bright chance to upset the odds on Northern Lights
D.s.venkatesan.d.s.venkatesan. said ...
19-Nov-202121_11_2021.pune races.
1*no.9.walk the talk.
2*no 3.Zuccarelli.
3*no10 Marlbord man.
4*no 8 Klnnara.
5*no 1 Parisian.
6*no 8 Stars for you. ARAZAN. FENESING 500 WIN TODAY.
7*no6 sultan Suleiman ARAZAN(IRE) 501WIN TODAY.
8*no 2 Timeless Deeds.
ALL WIN. Thanking you all
D.S.VENKATESAN.Madras.
Transparency said ...
19-Nov-202122.39 Nobody above Nature ........
Well in advance as usual ,Yeah It's Meri Murzee ....choose the four best in Win or place .....For Fluke lovers ......
Perfect Man
Truly Epic
Timeless Deed
Marlboro Man
Born Queen
Brazos .......
Great Upset Time to strike for Zervan/Dallas combo
Krish said ...
19-Nov-2021Best of Luck! | Track: PUNE | ||
R# | Track | 1st Choice | 2nd Choice |
1 | PNE | 3 SUNLORD | 9 WALK THE TALK |
2 | PNE | 3 ZUCCARELLI | 1 BOTERO |
3 | PNE | 10 MARLBORO MAN | 2 IMMEASURABLE |
4 | PNE | 3 NORD | 5 RED RIOT |
5 | PNE | 1 PARISIAN(D - Best) | 3 TRULY EPIC |
6 | PNE | 1 NORTHERN LIGHTS | 2 RED CARNATION |
7 | PNE | 2 ALLURING SILVER | 1 BORN QUEEN |
8 | PNE | 11 GREY FALCON | 2 TIMELESS DEEDS |
Robert said ...
19-Nov-2021Am in pune? Pune race club opened for public on racing days?
Observer said ...
19-Nov-2021Good chance for Pesi to create racing history by clearing the card. His runners are having a good chance in every race of the day.
Againstodds said ...
19-Nov-20211 7 Kamaria
2 3 Zuccarelli
3 10 Marlboro Man
5 1 Parisian
6 1 Northern Lights
7 2 Alluring Silver
8 6 Istanbul/ 4 Sandra's Secret
Ab said ...
19-Nov-2021FOLLOW PESI SHROFF ON SUNDAY PUNE RACES.
Vikas Tamang said ...
19-Nov-2021Dear friends, 21 November will be pesi shroff all the way. He will win minimum 5 to 6 races from the 8 race card.. just play his horses no matter what odds please leave the race if you don't like any of his horses. GOOD LUCK TO ALL MY WELL WISHERS.
Godzilla said ...
19-Nov-20211ST Race .. Krish Bhagwat with 3.5 kgs allowance on SUNLORD should win. Tracking well.
2nd Race .. ZUCCARELI .. No win so far is surprising. Ran with Class horses. Should win in this set.
3rd Race .. IMMEASURABLE .. Failed fav with 62kgs handicap [placed second]. Should win without a sweat and complete hat trick of wins for Pesi.
4th RACE .. PERFECT MAN .. Had a benefit of run. With that kind of track, cant remain as dud.
5th Race .. PARASIAN .. In rousing form.
6th Race .. MULTISTARRER .. Won impressively earlier, can win again.
7th Race .. SULTAN SULIEMAN .. Amazing track work. Sultan should rule in this Race.
8th Race .. TOUGH COP.. Came down in handicap.
DAYS BEST; SULTAN SULIEMAN..
Longerodds said ...
19-Nov-20211-7 Kamaria
2-3 Zuccarelli
3-2 Immeasurable DAY BEST
4-8 Kinnara
5-1 Parisian
6-8 Chancellor
7-8 Rambunctious
8-5 POWER OF NEATH - FOLLOW- CAN UPSET ANYDAY- DO NOT BE FOOLED BY A NON PERFORMING RIDER
ALL EACH WAY OR PLACE
Jack Sparrow said ...
19-Nov-20211st race:H NO.2 CHIEFTAIN place
2nd race:H NO.3 ZUCCARELLI win
H NO.1 BOTERO place
3rd race:H NO.4 SEMINOLE place
4th race:H NO.4 PERFECT MAN place
5th race:H NO.1 PARISIAN win
6th race:H NO.9 CHANCELLOR place
7th race:H NO.2 ALLURING SILVER win
8th race:-------------_----------------
Rahul71 said ...
19-Nov-2021Pune 21 st Nov...
1) Sunlord
2) Zuccarelli
3) Immeasurable
4) kinnara
5) Parisian
6) Northern lights
7) Augustus Caesar...outsider each way
8) Sandra's secret
The 1st 5 selection are all Pesi Shroff horses..all selections are on merit..
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