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Timings Theory!

By Winner | 13-Jun-2022

Hi everyone,

HOPE all are doing good and godzy baba my prayers for SPEEDY recovery..

Years back posted once topic regarding zeroing the horse on timings (ONLY).  Few of them got hint and got benefited .. Here again pp 0giving some more as am too liberal,honest and humble guy!

1. Ignore if the penetrometer is above 5. (Expecting a horse to win again from soft conditions to average/good going or vice versa... Is a big {NO}) it may click but once in a blue moon.. Ex:GANAPATHY sir trained horse (Dr.Ramaswamy owned) guess the horse (___)

2. Expecting horse to win in other centre other than home ground is a big {NO} (TIMINGS.)..example PRESIDENTIAL few of them studied card well and selected ALL ATTRACTION  congrats!!!(knotty ash5-1, peluche6-1, star superior2 1/2, watchmyscript X and 12-1...) It may click but make sure others have not clocked the..... Home sweet Home ...

3.Double check if the SELECTED horse has ran (  SAME  day) if found then SCRATCH....

TERMS and conditions should be read   carefully  and students should  never  skipCLASSES if theydo, they FAIL!

So far in 6 meetings had only one bet  6-1, won by   __ lengths... unlucky not be unbeaten!

so good to see Karthik, Neil are interacting here . requesting professionals share their opinions on the BIG races!!!

Not a single day goes by without visiting to this website specially to HT column.

Kind regards,

Vinay.616.

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14 Replies

Sun said ...

On : 26-06-2022 10:41 pm

@ Be Practical.

Yes I will keep trying but I want to impress on you that though my first choices may not win but the 3 horses I am picking do present an opportunity to get positive returns.

U can see Bangalore 25th and 26th three choices and draw your own  conclusion.

Thanks.

Winner said ...

On : 23-06-2022 02:37 pm

Satyanarayana sir,

Some centres are exceptional in my system!

Agree,It's wrong to rely only on timings to get winners.

Horses which gallops infinal stages are to be considered!!!

25 is very auspicious number,so will take one step forward and pray to god not to drain my money and the time  too are very odd not to ignore, 

Don't look elsewhere to the winner!

Thank you!

Be Practical said ...

On : 23-06-2022 02:25 pm

@SUN

Make another attempt for coming weekend races. Do not let yesterday's failure to bog you down if you are confident about your mathematical projections.
Be like King Bruce. Try, try and keep on trying till you succeed.
Wishing you all the best.

Winner said ...

On : 23-06-2022 01:51 pm

Satyanarayana sir,

Some centres are exceptional in my system!

Agree,It's wrong to rely only on timings to get winners.

Horses which gallops infinal stages are to be considered!!!

25 is very auspicious number,so will take one step forward and pray to god not to drain my money and the time  too are very odd not to ignore, 

Don't look elsewhere to the winner!

Thank you!

Sun said ...

On : 21-06-2022 06:56 pm

Just to test my system I give the horses as per Timing

Rno 1 Horses Considerd 1 2 3 5 6 8   Choices Breakaway  Coyote Girl Aurele

Rno 2 Horses Considerd  3 4 8 12     Choices Countrys Flash  Covis

Rno 3  Maidens

Rno 4  Horses Considered  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8   Choices Ceffina Silver Days Again All Great Friends

Rno 5  Horses Considere  1 2 3 4 5 6 7        Choices  Hioctane Trust Bond Crescendo

Rno 6   Horses Considered  1 3 6 7 8 9 10 12 14 15  Choices Socrates Jungfraujoch Mutant

Rno 7 Horses Considered 2 5 7 9 10 12   Choices Like My Daddy Impelling Power Waverunner

Best of Luck.

Winner said ...

On : 21-06-2022 03:29 pm

Satyanarayana sir,

Information is wealth . Thanks for your 1600 analysis on Mumbai horses.... You are  Multi  talented____ !!! 

Will surely return the favour soon!!!

Sun said ...

On : 20-06-2022 09:52 pm

@ Winner 

The post under U Satyanarayana is alias Sun 

Thanks 

U Satyanarayana said ...

On : 20-06-2022 04:58 pm

@ Be Practical,

Thanks for your advice.Just for your information my Calculations placed Philosiphy ahead of others in Fillies Champiion Stakes 

It is not that every time one gets a single Winner in a race.Even if one gets a Winner between 2 horses and a good place bet it is enough.

The approach of Timing Analysis has to take care of many parameters as u rightly observed.

Thanks

 

Be Practical said ...

On : 18-06-2022 01:24 am

Mr Sun.

In a speculative trade or a game of chance, mathematical projections can never be perfected. The VARIABLES are too many and CONSTANTS are very few. It is an exercise in futulity.

Winner said ...

On : 16-06-2022 03:42 pm

1.Faith,Crown Consort and Shabelle are limited to max 1400mtrs.

After thorough study my choices 1st choice Queen Spirit each way and Philosophy only win cover bet for Queen!

Danger for my choices are King's ransom and place vendome..

King or queen!

Winner said ...

On : 16-06-2022 11:58 am

Thanks a lot sir!

Sun said ...

On : 14-06-2022 06:22 pm

@ Winner,

Horse Body Weight change I have not studied.I feel it is useful in  Zeroing on a horse among competing horses

False Rails  Since it is declared by Clubs  that Starting Gates are Placed using Rodometer I have ignored the same

Slope/Raising ground of a Course,I feel the effect of this will be reflected in Final Timings.

I work on Normalising Times to 1600 Mtrs which is Metric Mile.Taking a Standard Time of 1 Min 40 Secs for Lowest Class of 0-25 I work out Season's Average Time for 0-25 Class.My figures are

Mumbai    1 Min 38Secs which is 9800 on 0.01 SEc Unit ie 1 Min is 6000 Units

Bangalore  10100 Hyderabad 10000 Chennai10200 Kolkata 10300 and Ooty 10500

If a Mumbai hoprse is participating at Bangalore and if we take Time clocked at Mumbai,the Winner will always come out to be Mumbai horse.

So in a 1600 Mtr race to Mumbai Time add 300 or 3 Min to bring it on par with Bangalore Time These are only approximations

Thanks for your interest 

Winner said ...

On : 14-06-2022 10:12 am

Sun sir,

Completely agree with 2nd,4th and 6th points.

Now working on body weight of the horse/false rails, tracks(hill down/uphill. Please throw some light on this like did before.

Will be of great help for Ekalavyas....

Thank you

Sun said ...

On : 13-06-2022 09:12 pm

My views 

1.All Times have to brought to a Common Datum

2.First and foremost we have to adjust for Weight Raise or Lowering of Weights in a Race Weight Raise means all horses in that race carried more Weight than on the Standard Scale So if it is Weight Raise we deduct some Time from Time Clocked and Vice Versa

3. We then adjust for Penetrometer Reading taking a reference Value Here extreme values may pose a prblem

4.Then we have to Adjust Time taking Class Factor.It is common knowledge that higher class Times are better than Lower Class Times,Here we have adjust the Time of High Class after taking into account the effect of Lower Weight of Higher Class compared to weight in Lower Class

5.We have to map all times to a Standard Distance say 1600 because unless we do this we will not have Common  Datum

6.We need arrive at Average Time for a Centre&for a season 

7.Then arrive at Centre to Centre adjustment 

If one follows such a method one can predict Winners across Centres 

Thanks.