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The 2024 Four Winter Derbies Ptr Contest First Leg Declared Open

By S.k.sagar | 05-Jan-2024

FOUR WINTER DERBIES 2024  PTR  CONTEST IST LEG DECLARED OPEN

FOUR SELECTED RACES

1)      KOLKATA DERBY TO BE RUN ON 7TH JANUARY 2024

2)      BANGALORE WINTER DERBY TO BE RUN ON 26TH JANUARY 2024

3)      THE GOLKUNDA (HYDERABAD WINTER)  DERBY TO BE RUN ON …

4)      THE INDIAN DERBY TO BE RUN AT MUMBAI ON …

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO NOMINATE THE FIRST THREE `A`, `B`, AND `C` IN EACH OF THE ABOVE FOUR SELECTED RACES AND THE FOLLOWING BETS (NOTIONAL) WILL BE REGISTERED.

10000 points on `WIN` and `PLACE` each on `A`

10000 POINTS on `SHP` and `PLACE` each on `B`

10000 POINTS on `PLACE on `C`

4000 POINTS on each of the two FORECAST Combinations with `A` and `B`

2000 POINTS on each of the six `TANALA` Combinations with `A` `B` and `C`

TOTAL BETS FOR EACH OF THE FOUR SELECTED RACES = 70000

TOTAL FOR ALL THE FOUR SELECTED RACES = 280000

WIN  ROLL OF 2000 (TREBLE) ON EACH OF THE FOUR COMBINATIONS = 8000

SHP ROLL OF 2000 (TREBLE) ON EACH OF THE FOUR COMBINATIONS = 8000

WIN ROLL OF 2000 (MINI JACKPOT) FOR ALL FOUR RACES =  2000

SHP ROLL OF 2000 (MINI JACKPOT) FOR ALL FOUR RACES =  2000

GROSS AMOUNT (POINTS) INVESTED =  300000

DEAD LINE FOR POSTING YOUR CHOICES =  1.00 PM  ON THE DAY OF THE RACE

DIVIDENDS SHOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE OF THE CORRESPONDING RACE CENTRE

ALL PARTICIPANTS ARE REQUESTED TO POST THEIR FINAL

SCORES WITHIN TWO DAYS AFTER THE RACE.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL

Post Your reply

97 Replies

Jeevan said ...

14-Jan-2024

Chennai derby

8-11-4

Alleyezonme said ...

12-Jan-2024

My score? Please

sea the son 

Long lease 

destroyer

 

Syns said ...

11-Jan-2024

My score after first leg

Ramiel place 24000 (missed win badly)

Sun said ...

10-Jan-2024

@SK Sagar,

Noted Sorry for the slip 

Golden Viper said ...

10-Jan-2024

thanks sagarji   my  score is 34000  hyd  is yet  to  declare  for

  the  derby the  date  bng  is  fixed  26 jan

regards

S.k.sagar said ...

09-Jan-2024

@ SUN  ... As per rules  ( Refer all earlier PTR Contests ) There is only place dividend for `C` in case the horse is placed ( which is within the first two for a Five Horse Field)

Please note there is no `THP ` for `C`

So, your score is 12000.

Best wishes

Golden Viper said ...

09-Jan-2024

there seem  to be  confusion  please  take  sun  an  old  timer  see his returns 

 

 

B V S Prasad said ...

08-Jan-2024

My points is 

LONG LEASE PLACE 

10000 × 12 =  12000

I request to take anyone initiative to calculate of all members earlier LIBERO has done so many times most of the people doesn't understand & following calculations 

S.k.sagar said ...

08-Jan-2024

 

TOP THREE IN THE FIRST LEG WITH MAXIMUM SCORE ARE PRASANNA KUMAR,SUDHAKAR HYD, AND SARAVANAN.

Each of them has scored 220200 points as per calculation shown below:

34000 ( win and Place on number 5) + 48000 (shp and place on number 3) + 88400 (Forecast 5 -3) + 49800 (Tanala 5-3-1)

In addition, they have 3 win rolls (Treble ) of 4400 each alive  + 1 win roll (Mini Jackpot) of 4400 alive on Long Lease + 3 shp rolls ( Treble) of 4800 + 1 shp roll (Mini Jackpot) of 4800 alive on Ramiel.

In 4th pace is Saidas Kher with a total score 170400 plus all the win and shp rolls alive as above. He did not get the Tanala.

Eleven other participants cracked the Tanala.

Kindly note participants need to calculate their own scores, it is part of the game. Its not so difficult.

My score at the end of the 1st leg  = 34000  + 3 win rolls (TREBLE) and 1 win Roll (MJ) of 4400 points each alive on Long Lease.

Best of luck in the next leg.

Sun said ...

08-Jan-2024

My points

Long Lease 12000

Destroyer     55000

Total 67000

 

Saravanan said ...

08-Jan-2024

THANK YOU SK FOR HELPING IN THE CALCULATIONS.

MY NEW OPENING BALANCE IS NOW 1,51,100.00 FOR SECOND LEG...

 

SARAVANAN. 

Sps said ...

08-Jan-2024

Respected S. K. SAGAR (sir)

I tried & tried to under stand your lead post for calculation of SCORE. I am not able to understand.

I request you to give *CALCULATION* for yesterday Kolkata Derby. I am not alone many more have not understood.

Thanks and Regards

Skumar said ...

08-Jan-2024

@SPS .....My calculations are correct ...10000 NNP's means 100 Tkts X 22 Dividend for win on LL and place is 12 ...

All the 3 or 4 participants who got the Correct order of 5-3-1 May use my below post of Saravan's calculation and all of u would be same as 1,51,100.00 NNP's in first leg of Four winter derbies PTR contest.

Regards

SK

Sps said ...

08-Jan-2024

Correction to my earlier post (07.01.2033) On the Score.

CONGRATULATION to

(1) SARVANAN and

(2) SUDHAKAR for giving

all the three selection for 

#5 LONG LEASE (WIN)

#3 RAMIEL (SHP)

#1 DESTROYER (3rd position)

Both they are on TOP position.

I request Mr. S.K. Sagar to calculate the score and post.

I tried to calculate but I feel, I have not understood how to calculate.?

Respected S. Kumar has given calculation from his side but I note that there is at leat one mistake.

Score on LONG LEASE (WIN & PLACE) should be 3,40,000 but he has written 34,000/- 

Mr. SAI DAS KHER is on 2nd top position for giving 

#5 LONG LEASE (WIN)

and 

#3 RAMIEL (SHP)

With due respect and regards to all.

 

Virgorau said ...

08-Jan-2024

A. Long Lease  : 34000

B. Destroyer      : nil

C. Hornell           : nil

Total                    : 34000

Virgorau 

Saravanan said ...

08-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby- First leg of Four winter derby contests-07-01-2024


Dividends Paid at RCTC :


7-5 Long Lease : 22 for win and 12 for place

7-3 Ramiel : 24 for SHP and 24 for place 

7-1 Destroyer : NIL 
 

Forecast on 5-3 : 221
Tanala  on 5-3-1 combination : 249


Returns today :


7-5 Long Lease 10000*22 and 10000 *12 = 34000
7-3 Ramiel   :  24*10000 Each    = 48000
7-1 Destroyer       : NIL 

Forecast : 200 Tkts X 221 = 44,200

Tanala : 100 Tkts X 249    = 24900

Total Leg 1 Kolkata earnings = 1,51,100.00 NNP's 

 

Eligible in round-2 for win  and SHP rolls

For Saravanan

SK 

Saravanan said ...

07-Jan-2024

MY SELECTION IS PASSED...

LONG LEASE WIN

RAMIEL SECOND 

DESTROYER THIRD.

CAN ANYONE HELP IN CALCULATION FOR IT PLEASE. 

 

SARAVANAN. 

Ravi Teja Reddy said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkota Derby competition selections : 

A - 5. Long Lease

B- 1. Destroyer

C- 3. Ramiel

 

A - long lease win 22*10000 + 12*10000

22000+12000 = 34000

C - place 24*10000 = 24000

A+C = 34000+24000 = 58,0000 Total

Next Derbies will try best for all 

Ravi Teja Reddy said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkota Derby competition selections : 

A - 5. Long Lease win 22*10000= 22000+ place 12*10000=12000. 

Total 22000+12000 = 34,000.

Will better try for next Derbies

B- 1. Destroyer - Nil

C- 3. Ramiel - Nil reversed both 

Sudhakar Hyd said ...

07-Jan-2024

Sir,

I also predicted 

Long lease

Ramiel

Destroyer respectively 

Skumar said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby- First leg of Four winter derby contests-07-01-2024


Dividends Paid at RCTC :


7-5 Long Lease : 22 for win and 12 for place

7-3 Ramiel : 24 for SHP and 24 for place 

7-1 Destroyer : NIL 
 

Forecast on 5-3 : 221
Tanala  on 5-3-1 combination : 249


Returns today :


7-5 Long Lease 10000*22 and 10000 *12 = 34000
7-4 See The Sun  : NIL
7-1 Destroyer       : NIL 

Eligible in round-2 for win roll 

 

ATB to one and all  and all are requested to note the above for RCTC Dividends !!!!!

Regards

SK

Sps said ...

07-Jan-2024

Congratulations Mr. Saidas Kher.

Your Score is highest as on date for Kolkata Derby as you are the only person who has predicted LONG LEASE as WINNER and RAMIEL as SHP. 

Many participants have given LONG LEASE as Winner but you are the only person who has given RAMIEL as SHP

My well wishesh to continue, but don't come under phycological pressure that you must score.

Let it be a natural process. 

Please calculate and post. 

Vicky said ...

07-Jan-2024

Win 5

SHP- 3

THP 1

Vampsvenom said ...

07-Jan-2024

(A) LONG LEASE

(B) DESTROYER

(C) HORNBILL

Virgorau said ...

07-Jan-2024

A. Long Lease

B. Destroyer

C. Hornell

Virgorau 

Bang On said ...

07-Jan-2024


1 SEA THE SUN 

2 DESTROYER 

2 HORN BILL 

Abhay...pune said ...

07-Jan-2024

A-DESTROYER

B-LONG LEASE

C-RAMIEL

Prinit said ...

07-Jan-2024

A 4 Sea the sun

B 5 Long lease

C 1 Destroyer

Bobby said ...

07-Jan-2024

 

Calcutta Derby

A. Destroyer

B. Sea The Sun

C. Long Lease

Mahi0115 said ...

07-Jan-2024

A. Destroyer

B.Sea The Sun 

C.Long Lease....

Syns said ...

07-Jan-2024

My choices for the Derby PTR is

A. 3 Ramiel

B. 4 Sea the Sun

C.  Long Lease

Augustus said ...

07-Jan-2024

A...Long lease

B...Destroyer

C...Sea the sun

Vkrishna9 said ...

07-Jan-2024

My Choice

A - 5.LONG LEASE

B - 1.DESTROYER

C - 2.HORNBILL

 

 

T K said ...

07-Jan-2024

5-- long lease A.

  1-- destroyer B. 
3-- ramiel C.

Thanks

God Is Great said ...

07-Jan-2024

A. LONG LEASE

B.SEA THE SUN

C.DESTROYER

Skumar said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby- First leg of Four winter derby contests-07-01-2024

7-5  Long Lease
7-4  See The Sun
7-1 Destroyer 

ATB to one and all !!!!! 

Regards
SK

Sps said ...

07-Jan-2024

A) #5 LONG LEASE

B) #1 DESTROYER

C) #2 HORNBIL

Sun Son said ...

07-Jan-2024
  1. Destroyer
  2. Long Lease
  3. Hornbill

Ravi Teja Reddy said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkota Derby competition selections : 

A - 1. Destroyer

B- 4. Sea the sun

C- 3. Ramiel

Ravi Teja Reddy said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkota Derby competition selections : 

A - 1. Destroyer

B- 4. Sea the sun

C- 3. Ramiel

The Joker said ...

07-Jan-2024

Hi

My selections for Kol derby

A Long Lease

B Destroyer

C Hornbill

Cheers

The Joker

Shantha Mysore said ...

07-Jan-2024

A : 1 Destroyer

B : 2 Hornbill

C : 3 Ramiel

Prasanna Kumar H said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkata derby winner:5-3-1

 

Chutzpah said ...

07-Jan-2024

destroyer

long lease

ramiel

Prabhu said ...

07-Jan-2024

A - Distroyer

B - Long Lease 

C - Sea The vSun

Wild Card Entry said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkota derby

A  Long Lease

B Destroyer

C  Ramiel

 

Ravi Gowande said ...

07-Jan-2024

1) Destroyer

2) Long Lease

3)Ramiel

Ravi Gowande

Pedigreestar

Honeytip9 said ...

07-Jan-2024

A. Destroyer 

B. Sea the Sun

C. Ramiel

Tanmayee said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkata.longleause

Bangalore.jamari

Hyderabad.sysithess

Mumbai.elbnar(m.narrudu/yashnarrudu jockey

Golden Viper said ...

07-Jan-2024

It is  nice tp see  so many  resonding sir  I will  never  forget  you  as  i was  one of  the winners  long  time back

Long  lease 

Destroyer 

Hornbill.

thanks and  all  the  best to  you  sir

Ashmys said ...

07-Jan-2024

A. Sea the sun

B. Destroyer 

C. Long lease

Racebro said ...

07-Jan-2024

A - DESTROYER

B - SEA THE SUN

C - RAMIEL

Alampana said ...

07-Jan-2024

The Destroyer

Hornbill

Long lease 

Sudhakar Hyd said ...

07-Jan-2024

A. Long lease

B. Ramiel 

C. Destroyer 

Vikas said ...

07-Jan-2024

Calcutta Derby Selection

A. DESTROYER

B. LONG LEASE

C. HORNBILL

Saidas Kher said ...

07-Jan-2024

          Kolkata Derby

Winner = LONG LEASE

SHP= RAMIEL

THP= HORNBILL

Narayana said ...

07-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby competition 

A.   Long Lease

B.    See the Sun

C.     Horn bill

Philip Dcruze said ...

07-Jan-2024

Good morning Sagar Sir ,

Hope you are doing fine. My choice as follows:-

A - Long lease

B - Destroyer

C - Sea the sun.

Ashokmysore said ...

07-Jan-2024

A.  Sea the sun

 

B.  Destoyer 

 

C.  Long Lease

Babaka said ...

07-Jan-2024

2.HORNBILL

1. DESTROYER

4. SEA THE SUN 

Darshan said ...

07-Jan-2024

A.  DESTROYER

B.  LONG LEASE

C.  RAMIEL.

D. SEA THE SUN

Saravanan said ...

07-Jan-2024

1. Long lease

2. Ramie

3. Destroyer

Badboys said ...

07-Jan-2024

A. SEA THE SUN

B. DESTROYER

C. LONG LEASE

Nani said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkata derby :

A. Hornbill

B. Longlease

C. Destroyer

Shashi Verma said ...

06-Jan-2024

A. Long lease

B.  Sea the sun

C.  Destroyer

 

 

Abhi Hyd said ...

06-Jan-2024

1) destroyer

2) ramiel

3) long lease

Ravi Teja Reddy said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkota Derby competition selections : 

A - 5. Long Lease

B- 1. Destroyer

C- 3. Ramiel

B V S Prasad said ...

06-Jan-2024

A  4  SEA THE SUN

B  5  LONG LEASE

C  2  HORNBIL

Ak said ...

06-Jan-2024

1)Destroyer

2)Ramiel

3)long lease

Tiger said ...

06-Jan-2024

(My Choices for Kolkata Derby-2024)

`A` : DESTROYER

`B` : LONG LEASE

`C` : SEE THE SUN

 

Good Luck.

 

TIGER''......................................................................

Sun said ...

06-Jan-2024

My Selections

A     Sea The Sun

B     Lomg Lease

C     Destroyer

Best of luck to all

Drams said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby:

A. Destroyer

B. Sea The Sun

C. Long Lease

Abel.d.raj said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkatta Derby

A 1. DESTROYER

B 5. LONG LEASE

C 4. SEA THE SUN.

High Definition said ...

06-Jan-2024

Hi All

I am new to this form but was a spectator for along.

My selection 

Destroyer win

S.k.sagar said ...

06-Jan-2024

My Choices:

`A` : Long Lease

`B` Destroyer

`C` See The Sun

Whatsinthename said ...

06-Jan-2024

A 4.SEA THE SUN

B 1 DESTROYER

C 2. HORNBILL

 

Udhaya said ...

06-Jan-2024

Derby winner tomorrow 5 4

Dr C.c.sahadev said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby-07-01-2024

Placings

1-5-4

Abhi Hyd said ...

06-Jan-2024

Destroyer

Esoterical said ...

06-Jan-2024

A-4 sea the sun

B-5 long lease 

C-1 destroyer

 

S.k.sagar said ...

06-Jan-2024

@ ALBERT KHARE ... Nice to hear from you after a long gap. Please note everyone can participate in the contest including Commentators, Trainers, Owners, etc. Yes I remember your succesful partition in the contest long back. I am happy to know you enjoyed reading my book.                                                             This time also there is a prize for the Winner and the 1st Runner up. It is my seventh book `TIME TO IMAGINE .. AND OTHER SHORT PIECES)  published very recently. It also has a chapter ( a long one) on Horse Racing, apart from sections on Science, Philosophy, World Geo Politics, Pure Mathematics, Interesting stories on all kinds of topics, the Game of Scrabble, Predicting the Sensex, etc etc.                                  

                             The book is available on Amazon, Flipkart, Kindle, and will soon be available in 25+ Bookstores across India.  Copies are available with me also. Those interested in Signed copies  - @ 20 % Discount - overcan write to me at my email address : `sks@total-environment.com` with their postal adress and I will courier tthe book. 

                             Regards and best wishes

                             S.K.SAGAR

                              

One Two Ka 4 said ...

06-Jan-2024

LONG LEASE - Win - in for long term back until it looses 

 

DESTROYER - 2nd - could be destroyed by long lease

 

SEA THE SUN - 3rd - will always be there 

Mishti said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby:

A. LONG LEASE

B. DESTROYER

C. HORNBILL

S.k.sagar said ...

06-Jan-2024

@ Achtut, Godzilla, Original Gangster, RockStar .... Kindly note you need to give your Ist choic `A` ( The winner), 2nd Chice `B` ( shp) andf the 3rd Choice `C` only for the Kolkata Derby, which is the first leg of the contest. Kindly Revise your posting as per above, before 1.00 pm on Sunday ( 7th January 2024).                                                                                                                              GOOD LUCK AND BEST WISHES

          S.K.SAGAR

Alleyezonme said ...

06-Jan-2024

4- Sea the sun

5-Long lease

6-Destroyer 

Only One said ...

06-Jan-2024

Destroyer Win

Prabhu said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby 

1 - 5 - 4

Atchut said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby

W  Destroyer

Godzilla said ...

06-Jan-2024

1. KOLKATA DERBY ..   LONG LEASE

Againstodds said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkata 

 

A  Sea The Sun

B  Destroyer

C  Long Lease

R Srinivasan said ...

06-Jan-2024

A.   DESTROYER

B. LONG LEASE

C. RAMIEL

Original Gangster said ...

06-Jan-2024

Kolkata - Long Lease

Bangalore - Synthesis

HYDERABAD - Champions Way

Mumbai - Jamari

Rockstar said ...

06-Jan-2024

1)kolkatha derby-DESTROYER

2)Banglore derby-ENABLER

3)Hyderabad derby-SYNTHESIS

4)Indian derby-ENABLER

Shantha Mysore said ...

06-Jan-2024

kolkatta derby selection.

1-2-3-4

Jeevan said ...

06-Jan-2024

Calcutta derby

5-1-2-4

Albert Khare said ...

05-Jan-2024

Are commentators allowed?

Just kidding! Wishing everyone participating the very best. This was such a glorious contest, when I remember participating in it. The brain child of Mr S K Sagar 

I also had the great luck of placing in the top 3 one year, thanks to my straight tanala in one of the legs and getting the gift, which was a book written by Mr Sagar 

I sadly don't have the book anymore, but loved the writing style, even though I lack the intelligence to comprehend every bit. Nonetheless it was a book I managed to complete. 

Mr Sagar if you are in town, please do catch up. 

Work Alcoholic said ...

05-Jan-2024

Kolkata Derby

1-5-3-4