Jandayi win win 2400 Mts no chance for place also for enabler and christofole 

During his visit to India, jockey Oisin Murphy participated in an interview with the press in Mumbai. In the conversation, he emphasized that after riding a horse twice, he acquires the ability to effectively evaluate the final 100 meters, thereby improving his chances of securing a victory, especially in races with more than 10 horses. When discussing JENDAYI, Murphy expressed confidence that if given the opportunity in a significant race, the horse could establish an impressive record. Unfortunately, Oisin Murphy has withdrawn from the current race due to increased charges. P S Chouhan, who previously rode JENDAYI and secured a victory, will now take the reins. There is speculation that this might be P S Chouhan's final derby, as retirement and a transition into an assistant trainer role are being considered starting from the upcoming Monsoon season.

I have confidence in jockey Oisin Murphy, and if he participates, the chances of winning are considered to be 100%, except in the case of Did Not Finish scenarios. From a handicapping perspective, a closely contested competition between MADAM RICH and JENDAYI is anticipated. However, this time, I have reservations about placing trust in the combination of trainer Rajesh Narredu and jockey Suraj Narredu due to undisclosed reasons.

I have no intention of pressuring anyone into making bets or specifying the amount. Personally, I am leaning towards expressing 101% confidence in JENDAYI for a place bet if the odds are at least 80 paise. Otherwise, I might choose to abstain, with final decisions to be made closer to race time after observing the paddock. Wishing everyone the best of luck, and this post may serve as my final one here without additional explanations. Thank you all.

Dear Pepps, thought I'd say a quick "Hello."

Truly impressed by your writeups on this thread, in fact, after a long time do I see something sensible on this forum, because otherwise folks out here post their choices with vague write-ups about everything else other than the horse concerned.

I quite ascribe to what you have stated about Synthesis, and I was waiting to post on similar lines, but you sort of stole the words from my keyboard, may I say so, but, be it in terms of the average field rating of Jendayi, as compared to Synthesis, or the pedigree pointing to longer distances, I'd observed that too, except for those names of past winners you mentioned.

No doubt Jendayi had quite average fields to run against, and maybe it was just her good fortune that the field wasn't tough, and that she's truly good, but that would unfold on Sunday as to how good she really is.

Moving on to Synthesis, thanks for the names of the horses, from Synthesis' lineage that have won several classics, just makes me all the more confident about backing Synthesis without any fear, because I look at pedigree numbers and the lineage, and the way I look at a long distance race is quite different, and till date it has paid me rich dividends.

People usually look at the sire, but for longer distances I look at the dam, because my research tells me that for longer distances the horse needs big lungs, an attribute that comes from the dam, not the sire, and ever since, I've always been looking for longer distance numbers on the dam side, and this has paid me rich dividends, the last one being El Greco (Damsire:Multidimensional) which was at a lucrative 25/1 odds.

When a horse wins a classic everyone raves about the sire, not the dam, but my observations tell me that the best of sire, if he has no support from the dam's side invariably fails. For example, many horses with Multidimensional as sire have lost prestigious races in the past, and the ones that have won, if one were to check, it's the dam who was probably actually responsible for the win, and he mostly had Razeen as the damsire; that combination (Sire:Multidimensional Damsire:Razeen) has won most of the classic and graded races.

Now what I mentioned above is a matter of debate, and till now I doubted if  anyone on this forum might be able to shed any more light on this, the only person who I feel might be able to do so is Major Nargolkar, who writes on Indiarace about classsic races, but he's too huge a personality to be responding to my query, because I'm sure he might not be reading HT topics, but after reading yours posts I feel that with your knowledge you might be able to chat with me on this topic.

Continuing about Synthesis, if you check on the dam side he has Multidimensional as damsire and Razeen as grand damsire, now that's a heady combination, and may I be bold enough to state over here, Synthesis will ultimately turn out to be an all time great in the very near future.

As you mentioned in the last para, there's just this trifle issue about soreness in the last run, and I hope he has fully recovered from it, and if he has he will surely donkey lick this opposition, like he did in the Hyderabad Derby, where superior horses like Truth and Livermore, currently rated about 85 could not even see Synthesis' tail clearly as he flashed past the winning post.

Just a small request, Pepps, please do post regularly because I'll have someone's writeups to refer to after a long time, and decide on my final choices, and if you're from Bombay I'd love to share a cup of coffee with you over the Derby weekend, also, someone on this thread offered 50:1 on Synthesis, if you too are from here, please do meet me and accept a small bet from me, if you truly mean it, and are confident about what you say,  rather than posting just for the heck of it.

Enabler will win 100%

Dear Respected Sunil R Sir,

You mentioned that JENDAYI has a favorable chance of winning, especially if it is ridden by jockey Oisin Murphy. However, if there are any changes, kindly inform us. Your tips have been consistently accurate, and we greatly appreciate your insights. Unfortunately, there have been instances of misleading information from another source, causing disappointment for many followers regarding LIVERMORE in Hyderabad. We eagerly await your kind response.

In big races topic like this which gets more than 100 posts confuses readers more that it provides help. Because people give their support or opposition for horse without giving good reasons. 

One horse is Synthesis. Some senior and popular forum members like him. Others don't. Only on Sunday we will know which side is correct. 

Some are saying 2400 m. is too long for him. In Deccan Derby he beat Truth by 11 lengths. His dam Sana won Calcutta Oaks (2400m). She is sister of Mathaiyus (Indian St.Leger, 2800m), Mea Culpa (BangaloreOaks 2400m) and Zoya (Calcutta Oaks, 2400m). Next dam Yana won Indian Oaks but was disqualified. She also won Stayers' Cup 3000m. Yana's brother Strasky won Indian Derby. Sire of Synthesis is Speaking of Which is also sire of last year's winner Mirra. Can somebody explain why  Synthesis will not have stamina.

According to race day report Synthesis was sore after last race. He may not be fit. That is another matter. Also because a horse loses over 2400 does not mean he has no stamina. Better stayer wins the race.  

Oisin murphy has opted to ride at lingfield uk.

So might be Chavan gets the ride.

And finally acceptance 13 runners 

1)capotolium- pace maker just leave

2) chirstople -wil be in mix

3)constable-A dark horse if he stays katham all tata bye bye bt he needs tis run leave it

4)dream alliance-horse not in  previous form leave it

5)enabler- wil be in mix 

6)exuma- has expirrence bt timings not fast leave it

7)fighton- just leave it he is sprinter

8)gaint king-same as exuma has experience. Bt ..leave it

9) synthesis -wil be in mix ..only shp/thp..

10) ameerah -wil have to face strong now ..leave it

11)Jamari-horse wit good heart ..it's not a colt like war hammer or zuvcereli to come and win back to back race she is filly..she may find her true opositions now...bt she won't go down easily...bt can't win... Wil be in mix

12)jendayi- now wil face tough competition...bt her oks timings shows she is not ordinary...will be in mix

13)madam rich- a light weight filly lost some weights by run after run..she is not gaint filly she is light filly like jullite..bt travelling 32 hours frm banglre to Mumbai after breathing banglre derby 2nd to jamari ..she needs to settle...if she was 500+kilo horse I would have bang bang tis horse fr ew sure...long strech may help her only if she is calm...relaxed travelling...wil be in mix

Now  finally 3 colts  chirstople,enabler, synthesis vs 3 filys jamari,jendayi,madam rich

Again out of 6 picked I have filter 3 now ...jamari madamrich,enabler out

Jendayi vs synthesis 

The HPSL Indian  Derby (Gr.1).  7th race 5win 12pls
ALL THE BEST FRIENDS 

@Saidas - Thanks for sharing your journey here... Much needed motivation for me.

Jamiri will be in top  three. So go for place. Why always win. Saiddas I am big fan. R u from Bangalore 

JENDAYI

ENABLER

JAMARI

Every time there is an Indian Derby everyone has his own choice. Which must be respected as this race has thrown outstanding number of outsiders beating best of the lot on that particular day. So I respect everyone's choice as race is not run on records. It depends on what happens that particular day. I my self have an experience when I played Rochester each way, my friends called me a fool cause they felt he is not bred to stay that long. So respect to one and all for their choices, but for me it's Enabler vs Jendayi... I give Enabler a better chance as his finishing power is amazing which will matter. 

I don't think JAMARI will participate in the blue reband of the Indian racing. 

So only one clear cut winner is JENDAI followed by cristophle and enabler. 

Ready to give 50/1 for Synthesis . 

If this dud can win at Mumbai then I should be ashamed that I am still racing.

Expecting SYNTHESIS..out of speaking of which to last out one inch beyond 2000 ???

Secondly it got beaten even by CAPITOLIUM in the ruia..

To expect it to finish ahead of JENDAYI,JAMURAI,MADAM RUCH,ENABLER,ELPENOR,CHRISTPHLE..

Sometimes MIRACKLE do happen..keep waiting for a miracle to happen..good luck SYNTHESIS fans

@Major Madan Roa Ji,

I would like to draw your attention to the initiator of the thread for the Indian Derby, Mr. S Athresh Iyer. He explicitly mentioned that he had a strong inclination that this year's Indian Derby winner would be either MIRRA or SALENTO. I kindly request you to review his post once again and refrain from placing blame on the tipster. Thank you for your understanding.

SYNTHESIS will win the Indian Derby, I'm confident about it, and I'll share my observations as to why prior to race day. 

I know this does not fit in on this thread, but on Saturday do play DECACORN, not saying this based on information but based on something I see at the handicap stage. 

@Godzulla sir Thank you very much for putting up such a wonderful question. But before I answer let me first make it very clear that sir this forum have given all of us a opportunity to learn something new everyday. It's an honour for me where already Mr. Godzilla sir, Mr. Sunil Sir, Mr. Govindrajan sir, Mr. Decent punter sir , Mr. Ashok Mysore sir are sharing their views. 

Now sir I come to your question yes I also suffered lots of loose of money in this industry when I use to play randomly. I almost hanged my boots and said bye to this industry. Than one day while searching I came to  know about 

Mr. Zeljko Ranogajec, the world most famous punter from Australia. also known as," The Joker" I liked his one quote 'In Gambling if you don't learn by mistake than you are stupid "  And his other quote "Quit when you earn"

I know I was not doing anything wrong but what I was doing most time was I use to leave my horse because of odds or some one going behind other n i following them. Mainly was second. 

In 2022 season I was left with just 25k and I knew it's do or die. Trust me sir that 25k is now more than  many times in my bank and I am able to run my four member family from that money. 

I shared my views was not to show I know much better than others , I shared because I know when you don't have money in pocket even your shadow will leave you.  I always tell my friends n known punters to be cool and if they earn 2-3 k per day it's more than enough. You can't become millionaires in one day but yes if you keep patience one day you will 

Sir this forum does not allow to share contact info otherwise I would have really been blessed had I been able to make contact with you all also 

Thanks a lot for asking me and giving me chance to explain myself.

In the last 100 meters ENABLER  will rech the top speed. That no horse in india habe reached... Just flying from outside.... 

Numerology to predict winner

Guy past couple of years  analysis 

Horse no.10 o drawn on gate 10 should not leave te board. So win place can be bet

To all who believe that Mahalaxmi will shower easy money on 04-02-2024 I just want to make them aware that 99% Tipster did not gave chance to Mirra in 2023 n 200% tipsters did not dream that Rochester in 2018 could get on board leave win. 

So to all please play as per situation. Tipster will just come n write sorry but you will loose your money. When card gets made than decide its utter time waste to think now. In short it's actually pretty bad concept. No one is such a big pundit in this industry who can declare who will win or loose by seeing handicap.  Sorry if my words are hurting someone but I an straight forward person n speak straight. Mr. Sunil one last request as someone else also mentioned try to post your choice once and keep stuck yourself on it, no need to change every second.  Its humble request

I request people who are hoping to see reduced numbers at Acceptance stage to kindly read Prospectus. All 17 whose names are appearing have paid Final Forfeit will accept. McKeown's two horses are not scratched due to oversight. They may be allowed not to accept but trainer will be fined.

Jendayi is unbeaten and winner of two Gr.1 races on last two starts. Fans of Jendayi should note that average field rating of those two races was 52 and 54. Jendayi may win but if she starts as favourite, she is false favourite.

This derby will be a Tribute to Shashi Chand Jain ENABLER All the way cinches the INDIAN DERBY.

It's a gift to Shashi Chand jain enabler

Dear All

The enabler is the miler horse.  Already it had beaten the top-class Jamari and now an extra 400 miles going to be added, so definitely Enabler will win the Indian Derby 2024...  

@Mr. Subhash and Mr. Manoj ,Brother don't rush. It's just handicap till now let the acceptance and card come than definitely will share my views. No need to hurry. 

Madam Rich

The long Mahalaxmi st. and ample scope for further improvement might keep Madam with the money.A little ahead of or behind Jendayi.

Cheers

Enabler going to win this time.a horse from Pune Derby win.yesh going to lift his 1st Mumbai darby.wish him best luck.

Christophle

One horse race

Till now if I am not wrong the tipster whose suggestions for Derby stood up-to mark in

Kolkata

Chennai

Bangalore 

Delhi

Hyderabad 

It's only one that's SAIDAS KHER. 

HONESTLY WILL LOOK INYO EVETYONE TIPS BUT DEFINITELY WILL GO WITH SAIDAS KHER THIS TIME. NO IF NO BUT 

@Sunil please give your tips as early as you can. Don't make last minute changes. It's request. 

@Saidas kher what's your favorite for derby in Mumbai please share 

Suraj Narredu continues his winning streak and will take Synthesis all the way to the finish line, the only danger would be Jendayi.

Chopin is a class horse and will win in style.

That's my double for the day. All the best and Happy racing !!!

IF AND ONLY IF JAMARI PARTICIPATES WILL WIN. NO DOUBT.

SHE REMINDS ME OF IN THE SPOTLIGHT. WILL HACK THE FEILD.

ALWAYS FOLLOW A FILLIY WHO IS IN FORM AND ALREADY WON 2 DERBYS.

Race will be upsets...madam rich she is light weight filly...needs banglre run rest...bt...can't in tis hot weather if she would have got 1mnth rest she was the winner...

Synthesis - can't win can be in mix...there is a myth..the horse who wins one of myth race can't win Indian Derby... synthesis had won tat so I igone synthesis

Jendayi- she did not find any strong contenders in her past as other have seen tis run she needed 

Enabler-faceing very very tough set now..have to see his stamina in long distance

Chorstople-a big surprise run in ruia cup..he is main contender wit good odds others all pesi won..fr jamari jendayi..now turn fr chirstople

Gaint king and exuma- these both have experience in lower class

My choice - chirstople followed by jamari and outsider 10/1 fr plce horse

@Misti it's actually creating confusion also  it's harmful. I believe. But still I respect Choices .I am waiting for final card. Than I take decision. Without seeing the card I don't want to confuse myself

Started keeping my HT name as Jamari, from the time she shed her maiden tag on her second run of the career, at that very moment felt she had the classic potential. Very happy for the horse and the entire team to get so long.

Well, Jamari has done nothing wrong. She has the winter form with her. Though the running of the Bangalore derby didn't suit her running style as the pace in the race wasn't smooth enough through the entire race, still she managed to devastate the opposition with clocking a record timing at the course, held by the Queen 'Juliette'.

The only task on her shoulder is to again run the mile and a half within 8days of time on a different track. Saying that, a few horses including the recent legend War hammer have achieved this feat in lesser than 8days.

Beaten by Enabler in the Pune derby, as she was not her 100%. Had a minor setback while traveling to Pune after the Bangalore summer campaign. After that run she's become strong bold and matured. 

She is a small made filly with a great heart and with good temperament. Enjoys to move on the bit, eases the job of the rider. She's loves to travel the distance. And has the advantage to being in her purple winter form.

The team looks forward to have a sweet revenge on Enabler who's also in great form and stands tall among the colts lineup. The unknown danger comes in the form of Jendayi the stable companion who surely doesn't have the class on her side but has done nothing wrong either, most probably will again have the guidance of the Irish Champion in saddle.

If Jamari travels well and sound to Mumbai she'll be the horse to watch out. Well, said enough now lets firstly hope she's accepted by the yard for this race. And hope the trio achieve their 2nd Indian derby after Zuccareli. 

Cheers! Happy Racing!

May the best horse win!

At the handicap stage there are (17) entries..which I suppose due to the tall presence of JENDAYI will come to (8)

The ones who seem to have a look and my comments are.

ENABLER: forget it 2400 not it's cup of T.

SYNTHETIC: Will struggle even to come on board.

JANARI: After Bangalore run it's proved ,she was fighting for her head thru out the trip and over the long Mahalaxmi straight,she the connection are using to ease out the tension.JAMARI will be up front ,will take lead at the 200 and then come back to the field and will fight for minors.

MADAM RICH : A bit unlucky at Bangalore,due to her tendency to hang..will be there to give a brief fight to JENDAYI.

and Finally JENDAYI: it's a ONE HORSE ONE HORSE ONE HORSE RACE .. MINIMUM 2 LENGTHS WINNER.Will allow all to be in front and like JACQUELINE she will come from mid pack and go away.

Don't look beyond her debating about chances of no hopes especially the dud SYNTHESIS is waste of time.SYNTHEDIS will struggle to even come 5 th

@Saidas kher sir,  can I know your choice.  Please sir share your selections 

Synthesis will win from Madam Rich.

@Pawan Lata Ji,

As Racebro already mentioned, we are all genuine and fair in all our selections and comments. In racing, fairness can vary; sometimes it's fair, and sometimes it's manipulated by power. Each of us has a different method of analysis, and it cannot be consistent with anyone forever. I consider various parameters such as sponsors, jockeys, horse track records, owners, and trainers, etc. I will provide more details once it gets acceptance in the race card with the same jockey, as I heard during an interview long back. I might be wrong. Thanks.

@sunil r you going with JENDAYI

Godzy declared synthesis as winner

confussion

OK I wait to see what

Ashok Mysore

Saidas kher

Govindrajan

One horse race synthesis

Synthesis was lame in last run... No chance... Jamari i doubt will participate... Too early... Enabler will find 2400 difficult... It took a task for him to pass Christofle... So another 2400 no way...

 Jendayi all the way... Back it

Zubbin

Enabler will win the Indian derby by lenghts

Acceptance no 

Card no

Handicap yes

Come on don't be so impatient.  Synthesis and Enablers both will not win this I can take guarantee.  But still let card come. Already a very famous tipster in hurry have dug grave for us in Hyderabad. 

JAMARI

I love the enthusiasm that tipsters are showing in predicting the winner and how the horses will run even before the race card is published. I guess that is the charisma of the Indian Derby of Mumbai is all about ????.

The city of Mumbai is buzzing with excitement as the historic Mahalakshmi Racecourse gets ready to host the centennial HPSL Indian Derby on February 4, 2024. This prestigious equestrian event marks a significant chapter in India’s horse racing legacy, promising an experience that transcends the ordinary race.

The Horse Power Sports League (HPSL) takes center stage as the title sponsor this year, injecting the event with renewed energy and a festive atmosphere. Mr. Suresh Paladugu of HPSL emphasizes that the HPSL Indian Derby (Grade 1) is not just a race but an immersive experience that combines sports, entertainment, leisure, and community building.

Organized by the Royal Western India Turf Club (RWITC) Ltd, the Derby Weekend, spanning February 3rd and 4th, 2024, is set to be a cultural fiesta. The Bombai Parade’s Flea Market will be a major attraction, featuring a variety of food pop-ups, merchandise stalls, cocktail bars, and live music, creating a vibrant and festive atmosphere.

The excitement reaches its peak on Derby Day, February 4th, where attendees can participate in a Lucky Draw with a chance to win up to Rs 10 Lakhs. The process is simple: fill out a form at the entrance and drop it into the lucky draw boxes. Additionally, the event features a bumper Jackpot, adding almost Rs 50 Lakhs to the prize pool, bringing the total to an impressive 1 Crore.

The HPSL Indian Derby 2024 is more than just a sporting event; it’s a celebration of history, culture, and community spirit, set against the backdrop of one of Mumbai’s most iconic venues. As the city gears up for this spectacular event, the anticipation is palpable, promising an unforgettable experience for all who attend.

'JENDAYI' is my first and last choice if jockey Oisin Murphy rides it in the Derby.

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@SUNIL R

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Jendyi  vs  Jamar  vs  Christofle

Each one capable of pulling it off from other two if run strategically. Jamari making a start to bid strategy, with Jendyi at the tail end and Cheistofle in mid bunch, traveling on till 600 meters to catch the front runners and Jendyi positioning herself to take on the bunch  (has run only in small bunches) in the Mahalaxmi 600 m straight with Jamari still in front.  Guys even Pesi won't dream of this finish.....my pick ...

C H R I S T O F L E     (to be partnered by Trvor Patel) but most likely he wud be atop Jamari  so P S Chouhsn may be astride

But the Master Trainer Pesi Shroff kudos for training all these 3 horses. 

This is strictly my version

Beat of luck Christofle, Pesi Shroff

According to handicap christophie , jendai ,madamrich, synthesis , enabler looking tall .. remaining will just contenders 

Among these horses madam rich if it run well it's a race it could be for it if it is not stressed of Bangalore Derby... Jendai or synthesis will be the second and third but who will be the winner enabler , christophie or madam rich

No other upset is looking there in the set .. so race between madam rich and christophie no other will throw there heads between them 

So most experienced people in this forum pls have a light on this

Chennai Delhi Hyderabad and in Mumbai SYNTHESIS in the hands of Suraj Narredu with good odds. He is the master in classics he knows Mumbai straight stretch like Star Superior.

The Enable & M Narredu family will lift the Indian Derby 2024

It will be "Synthesis" all the way...

No touch of grey in the line up.

Nice to see your Derby choice in advance & hope this will be accepted in race card & thank you sir. 

Let Acceptace and Declaration Stages Come.

Then only we will come to know the horses participating and  horses to be ridden by top jockeys like Murphy, Suraj, Trevor etc.

Time being let's assume 

Suraj on Senthasis

Trevor on Jamari

Murhy on Jendai as per (lead post)

At handicap stage 17 horses are there. Expect 4 to 5 horses will be scratched at acceptance stage.

Unless there is last minute withdrawal on vet reasons, there will be 15 runners in Derby. Lionel and Starkova probaly trainer forgot to scratch. One prediction that Derby will have only 6/7 runners will be proved wrong.

Dear Sir,

When it is dark enough you can see the stars,  dont rely on the last performance of the winner and dont rely on the last loss of the looser

I go with Godzilla choice of SYNTHESIS

Because it might be that his calculations have failed miserably in Hyderabad but I am sure Godzilla sir will rule Mumbai 

@Godzulla sir you said SYNTHESIS any comments now 

I think 'Enabler',  has been waiting for this kind of a big stage. For all the experience it has gained (much more than 'Jendayi') on the field, it will be no surprise if Enabler topples Jendayi on Feb.4. 

Jendayi will get a tough fight from Enabler if ridden by Suraj Narredu. Enabler clocked a smart timing of 1:59 in 2000 metres under jockey Yash Narredu. Suraj can extract a little more and my win the Indian Derby.

Christofle takes 20 lengths lead. at the bend Jamari Passes and then Synthesis & enabler come from behind and hack the field. Suraj will lift the derby. I don't think osin Murphy is available this weekend. 

Folks, all the best.

Play Juliette, Northern lights & Enabler and stand in the line