@Krishna. I follow all other patterns of c&d. It was your method of adding c&d to form sequence that intrigued me. But like you said it is just one of the many ways. So I better stick to my method. Thanks.

@ Bhan, 

Many practice need to specialise this method. Be alert in which direction sequence goes on. Some times there are 2 sequence combinations to pick the winner. Good Luck to you.

@Ajoy,

There are 5 order of sequence for selections. 1. sequence of sum C & D, 2. Sequence of top to bottom C nos. 3. Sequence of top to bottom D nos. 4. Sequence of diagnal C nos. 5 Sequence of diagnal D nos. You should be alert in all 5 direction sequence. You have to consider all possible direction to find winner. If find to much for you, better look for any other method. I already told in my first post there are some outstanding sequence is seen like 3 6 9, 2 5 7, 2 5 8, 7 8 6 any combinations. And many more such combinations are there at present I don't remember.

@Krishna. In Your 24th March analysis you were taking the sum of C&D to arrive at the sequence. But in yesterday's Kolkata you are just taking the winner card number to arrive at the sequence order. Sorry but This is not understood. Also there has to be some definite sequence numbers. Not just ad hoc like 2-3-5 or say 2-7-5. .etc.

@ Ajoy,

Sorry, I thought next race day. OK let us analyse the KOL 26 MAR(today) results.

3     21   42   53   14

9     71   18   37   12 6

7     52   16   37   98

3     66   23   45   14

6     4 11  19   87   12 6

5     23   42   31   15

In the 3rd race, you need c 5 to make sp. sequence 2  7  5  or  c 3 to make diagnal sequence 5  1  3 unfortunately favorite failed and c 5 won.

In the 4th race, you need c 3 or c 6 to make seqence c 7 5 3 or c 7 5 6. 6 Blinky Bill won.

In the 5th race, you need c 4 or c 7 to make sequence c 5 6 4 or c 5 6 7. 4 zukor won.Zukor also had additional diagnal support c 3 2 4. 7 DRD failed.

 In the 6th race, you need c 2 or c 5 to make sequence c 6 4 2 or c 6 4 5.       2 Cristaldo won.Cristalo also had additional diagnal support c 4 1 2.  5 Pelagia failed. In todays race there are no support of sum of C & D. 

In this method, you are skimming 2 or 3 horses analysis out of 10 - 12 field of horses. Thanks.

@Ajoy,

This method is applicable only during race time after 3rd race only. We can do advance selection. I can not cooperative you bcz of my location and I am sleeping during the race time.

@ Krishna Ji, 

Many thanks for your reply. Point understood. Will definitely give it a try.

Regards 

@Bhan,

I appreciate your genuine qurries. Sequence of card nos. also equally important and I already explained in Kolkata race 23 MAR. Sequence can be minimum 3 and more that already explained in last two races ( Kol - card diagnal sequence 4 4 4 4 and also Mum -draw diagnal sequence 3 (4 4) 5 ).

Now your querry on decision making:

NEW DIMENSION OR BUCKLEY? i will rewrite below as follows:

3New Dim.5    M Narredu(+)   Trevor(+)    3.75 - 1

2 Buckley 6     Sunderji (-)       Ajinkya( -)   10 - 1

4 El Grego 5    Shroff ( +)       Saqlain ( +)   2 - 1

5 Empower 4   N Chinoy (-)    V Bunde(-)    10 - 1

5 TIEPOLO 2    Shroff(+)    Trevor ( +)         9 - 1

1 BAKLAVA 6    Lagad ( - )   M Alam( + )      3 - 1

+ or - induicate comparative class of trainer and jockey. Final decision is yours. OK

@Krishna, could you please collaborate on today's Kolkata races with your theory. Thanks 

@Krishna Ji,

First of all thanks a lot for your reply, that too with elaborate examples. Now that you have initiated me into this, I have couple of more querries - please explain these doubts also. 

First of all  IS "Sequence of Winner c & d"  more important or "Sequence of Diagonal Support of only d" is more important.

Secondly  "Sequence of Diagonal Support" of c also plays an important role or not?

In 4th Race how have you chosen Diagonal Sequence completion by 2 (Making it 2,3,4) over Vincero having Diagonal Support of 5 and (Making it 2,4,5) ?

In 5th Race how have you preferred c&d 3,5 (New Dimension) over c&d 2,6 (Buckley)?

Lastly do you give any weightage ot fourth c&d while considering Diagonal Support Sequence.

I hope you will not feel annoyed or offended due to my querries as they are the result of my ignorance and your knowledge.

Regards.

@Bhan,

Let us consider Mumbai Race 24 Mar 2024:

Let me rewrite the result as follows:

6       51  38  16  77

3      12  31  23  ---

9      45  54  12  21

7      52  16  45  23

8     35  61  54  12  

3     93  74  511  101

6     15  41  104  52

First of all you should know sequences. ie, 2 2 2,  4  4  4  so on

next 1 2 3   2 3 4, 3 4 5 so on or any order like  1 2 3  written as 2 1 3, 3  1  2  or  1 3 2

now sequence of alternate nos like 1 3  5,   5  7  9,   3  5  7  or any order like 5  7  3,  7  3  5 so on.

there are some outstanding sequences like 3  6  9,  2  5  7,  2  5  8,  7  8  6

Actually winner finding starts from 3rd race on wards where you have already result first 2 races to get sequence.

From above stated data, first race winner 5 1 equal to sum 6 , 2nd race winner is 12 equal to sum 3, to get winner in 3rd race 6  3  9 sequence, winner plus draw 9 i e, 4 5  winner EL GREGO  with draw 5.

Now, you are asking about diagnal support? In the 4th race 5 TIEPOLO 2 won. For that, you have data of 2nd race 3rd placed horse draw3, 3rd race 2nd placed horse draw 4 and you are looking for draw 2 to make sequence for winner in 4th race. won by 5 TIEPOLO 2.

In the 5th race, you are looking for sum of c & d 8. you have already data of c&d of 3rd race 9, 4th race c&d 7. to get a sequence of 9  7  8.

In the 6th race winner draw 3 (93)GALLOPING AHEAD, you have a diagnal draw 5 1 3.

In the 7th race winner draw 5 (15)ART COLLECTOR, you have a diagnal draw data 3  4 4  5  or    3  (44)  5.

thanks.

@ Krishna Ji, 

Would it be possible for you to explain what is Diagonal Support Sequence and how do you decide which number is needed to make a sequence. As of now your method and post remains quite unclear.

Regards

@AJOY,

I used to practice your method about 30 - 40 years back in diffent way..

let us consider result of Kolkata race 23 Mar. 24

Written as follows:

2     56,  22,  17,  43 

7     79,  11 6, 48,  37

4      31,  44,  13,  42

7      43,  55,  24,  11

5     68,  1011,  29,  94

6     15,  79,  38,  41

My method used be sequencing and actually starts from race 3rd. In the first race 5 won with 6 draw and 2nd race 79 (c & d). in the 3rd race to make sequence I need 3 or 5 so picked 3 there is no 5. To win 3 there is diagnal support sequence 1, 11(2), 3 . In the 4th race I need 5 or 4 but 5 lost to 2nd place but won 4 by diagnal support (4 4 4 4), in the 6th race, 1 won by sequence ( 7 =43, 5 = 68 and won 1 = 15 ) so on

Forgot to add  in my post. Following are the corresponding low and high numbers

1-8.   2-7.    3-6.   4-9. And 5-10. 

Hello friends. Giving a simple tip for everyone whosoever would like to follow. No compulsion. It's not astrology or specific numerology. Plain simple numbers. Writing from years of experience in this. All you need to do is write the first four placing of the 1st race and corresponding draw numbers as I show below. I will cite with a couple of actual examples in the last week races.

Mumbai ,17 th March '24

Card winning numbers.    Draw number

1   4.   2.    3.                      2.   3.   1.    4

2.   1.   10.  4.                     5.   2.   9.     8

1.    5.    2.   3.                    7.    2.   1.     3

3rd race winner being Break Point. 25 to 1 odds.

Kolkata 19th March '24.

7.   8.   1.  6.                  1.     8.   6.   7

4.   6.    1.  8.                  3.     1.    7.   5

2.    8.   4.   7.                  1.    14.   12.   10

Winner DRD .3rd race.

Tip. Any number which jumps from 1st place to 2nd place immediately will win in the next race. Only keep in mind the winning number should have started from the 1st place and not have come 2nd or 3rd and then won. This is important.

Now in Mumbai, Number 1 won first race and came 2nd next race. Similarly corresponding draw also (no.2) came 1st and then 2nd. So was very sure of 1 Break point winning. Saw the draw of break point was 7, which is higher number of 2). But to be sure since draw 2 had jumped so backed draw 2 which was Divine Hope(17-1 odds). Result was Break Point 1st. Divine Hope 2nd.

Now Kolkata. Draw 1 jumped from 1st to 2nd . So was sure draw 1 would win in 3rd. Result DRD ( draw 1 won). 

Had posted both these just before race time. Kolkata was posted by IR. For some reason IR did not post my Mumbai race time tips. Had mentioned exactly the two horses.

This method I have personally experienced  since years. This is the easiest and simplest way to get a winner. Anyone can try or see it for yourself and then play once you experience it yourself.  In 15 days of racing a month you will see it happening at least in  6-7 days. Just avoid this in Mysore and to some extent Delhi. 

Happy punting to all.

Hi everyone it's good to know different opinions of your valuable experience like someone here said  there r 2 types of punters here one who just enjoys racing play's little amount just for fun and other who really wants to make huge money and takes racing seriously For any person to make big profits first rule is not to play all races , should have  lots of patience play only 2 or 3 races  I don't suggest you to play favourites it's like a crime cos if you invest 1000 on a favourite u may only get 500 profit even it wins or another 1000 but u Target 10/1 or 7/1 u will definitely reach ur Target now let's talk about real racing select a few horses, few trainers and  fluke jockies who are perform well in the current season work only on them for all the season you will definitely win another thing is when you have a racing day  it will be 3 types 1 all favourite 2 all flukes 3 moderate mixed,  it will be a huge loss when you play flukes, on a certain favourite day  . study track well , and connections . Never play favourite  on a   Derby day  90 percent u losse .  I agree with views of ##Come On ##and Chase ##.

Azaz has made a important point - be composed at all times- its a complicated game- In a job your salary increases over time with experience - here it is the opposite ,overtime and experience your losses increase ,cash decreases - why? - because trainers are good magicians punters cannot understand -how the horse won or lost - its magic out there.

@Ayaz: You Summed It Up Nicely. Brief and Clear.

My betting method is 5000÷3 bets.

1500 each bets.choosen best of 3 if I made first 2 not go with 3rd match.if I loss first 2 also not go with 3rd.importent point if I playing place bets minimum odds should be more then 12/10. Because after tax deduction we are getting even money.

Important point not go with others selections but will match the same selections our confidence level should be high.thats it for my side. I have a ledger for my losses still recover 76k.

There is a proverb in Telugu language which reads as " Any stone is good enough to pluck the teeth."

Isn't it chasing mirages in the desert sir?

This business is all about Risk Reward Ratio.

How much money you make when you are right and how much money you lose when you are wrong.

How you control your emotions when you are on a winning streak.

How you control your emotions when you are on a losing streak.

As you go deep inside of this game mental side is more and more important, how to handle success, how to handle failure.

@Wild Card Entry. Nice post.  I would say there are 2 types of players. One who enjoys the thrill of racing without considering profit or loss. He loves the study of horse and  races and feels happy when his choice wins. Very few such people are actually around nowadays. All others are the second type. Want to make money. Now if you want to only make money one should not get emotional attachment to a particular horse winning or losing. No need to study. It's not the horse which is going to make money for you. It is the rest of the punters and the system which will make money for you. 

Any race there is a maximum 50% chance of the favourite horse winning or 50% chance losing. Rest of the runners get their odds as per that. So say a 10 to 1 odds will have a5%chance winning or conversely 95%chance losing. So best way is either to play favourite or lay the favourite ( You will not get a chance to lay a 10-1 shot because the bookie himself will keep it.) First work out how much you want to make on a race day. Say it is  2k or 5k or 10k etc. As per how much you want you will need the kind of investment ready. Just play favourite or lay the favourite ,by working out the odds with what you wanted to make. Mostly in the first 3 races one favourite obliges. If it does not(which is rare) stop for the day and start the next day. Avoid this system on big days like Derby etc. I tried it in late1980's for making 500 a day. It worked but made my day very mechanical. Would not leave the course and eventually started playing other races too. You need to have control. I knew a few who followed for bigger amounts (they had the capacity). Later started working and into business, marriage,kids etc. and forgot all about races. It was late 2015 or 16 that slowly got involved again but this time more for the 1st type of enjoying races.

I am more into numbers and would post a very simple method later for everyone to reap rewards.

Just my thoughts please.

Mr.B.V.S.Prasad said "don't share your betd until you play; otherwise you will be misguided"---This is really true. I was misguided so many times by others. Take your own decision, bet and play because money is yours. Don't depend on tipsters.

Yes even I'm one among u all..by seeing ring odds tote odds my mind changes and I bet on other horse..bt something tat too won..and failed..bt one ting is sure tis is a rotation buisness...one day punters win one day bookies wins...everyday will not be a sunday

Dear Friends,

Long time ago (may be 3 dacades) Madras high court has given a judgement that Beting on horse racing is not a pure gambling but "a game of intelligence "

Please keep your hands on your heart and tell me honestly that in 99% cases, over a long period, say one year or more betting in horse racing is different than pure gambling.

Once you accept this nacked truth then what you need is nothing but LUCK. 

What ever selection method or betting plan we addoppt, ifluck is not favourable you cannot emerge as Winner over all. 

Just one question for a honest honours, have you meet ever at race course any punter who is in this line for more than 2or three years and is in profit over all.

***With high regard to our one among the top ten tipster and very good person, Mr. Godzilla who is also betting on his selected tips, whether he is overall in profit.***

*****l shall take his word "yes or no" as final judgement******

Your betting should be based on proven parameters (your selected ) only.It is advisable to list down such parameters confirming the result.Stick to only these races.Increase quantum of betting.Do not dilute/ compromise on your parameters.you may reap rich reward surely.

Betting is a Decison.

A Decision attempting to predict , with inadequate knowledge and information, the Future .

So one must be ready to understand and accept decisions going wrong.

To sharpen the skills of decision making, to minimise the losses and to maximise the profits one must think, plan and control one's own decision making process. 

The only thing you can control in betting is "yourself".

So what do you do?

First is Impulse Control.

Practice going to races with no money to bet with bookies but minimum on tote. Analyse the card , watch the movements of bookies odds and tote favourites , record your observations: what were the odds for the first four favourites, how the odds changed and what were the results. Just select one race , study well , record , review the results with your prevrace observations. Analyse the results. Why the horse won, why the horse lost , how a non fancied horse placed with lucrative place dividends. Pre race analysis , race time observations and record, post race analysis all will help one to improve one's skill.

Remember we can not win them all.

Also remember there are four possibilities in a race- A Win and Three paying places.

If you can narrow down three possible tryers in a race , then you can decide on betting on one horse for win or place or for both based on the odds offered.

Again impulse control matters: don't be swayed by the odds . Be realistic. If your selected horse has odds of 8 or more  or place odds above 2.5 don't bet even if the horse wins or places. If the odds are miserly , less than 1.5 , even if it is a dead certainty , don't bet.

Because Uncertainty is the norm in such "Future Predictions" , at the best your chances of making a right decision or wrong decision is 50:50.

If you are good, honed up your decision skills sharp , you may over time win one in every two attempts.  If you bet on an even money favourite , even if you win , you will end up losing your money overall because of the 50:50 and tax , other expenses. It is not worth betting.

This is where the concept of value betting comes. Value betting also will discipline you , promote impulse control and give you the much needed control absolutely necessary in all your decisions.

My personal rule is not to bet on my selected horse if the odds are below 2. And not to bet on winning odds of more than 5 or place odds more than 2.5.

Even if they win at lucrative odds , I will not be tempted to break my personal rules untill I learn confidently to identify and predict such upsetters which in any case are rare. Greed to make Fast money can derail a balanced mind.

One cardinal rule in Decision Making is this:

When analysing and coming to a selection, you must not think about the results or the odds or dividends. Decision analysis should not be clouded by eventual results or the payoff. Once you have selected  your horse or horses , then only your decision to bet or not should be made based on the win odds or place odds - Not while analysing in narrowing down the tryers.

Decisions are always taken with inadequate information. Take Control on Your Decision Making. Sharpen Your Skills. Make it  Winning A Habit.

Hi Wild Card Entry, I really liked the way you expressed your views on punting.

The very first lesson that a punter should be thorough with as he/she enters the course is that there is no guarantee that they will make money, no matter how much intelligent they are. A whole lot of factors come to influence the final outcome of a race and we can do very little about it. For instance, although the whole world was predicting 'Juliette' to make mincemeat of the opposition in the Invitation Cup, many racegoers, some of them veterans, still predicted the wonder mare to lose. You can't blame them at any cost. That's how racing goes.

It is not correct to say that you must play only 1 or 2 bets in a day or once you make profits you must leave the course immediately. Why I say this is because you really don't know what is in stake when you return to the course tomorrow. Sometimes when you leave the course after making some money in the first few races, you get so upset when you come to know many of your choices still went on to win up to the last race. What I wish to say is you must be present in the ring all the time although you don't have to play every race.

Even if you go through others' selections, the final decision should always be yours. I find some punters here accusing a particular trainer and jockey for the failure of a particular horse. After all, they are not in the business to satisfy your expectations alone. Imagine how many punters would have played against the same animal and made money on that day? 

Have your ever seen (except in centres like Chennai, Delhi and Ooty), WIN, PLACE or SHP amount being carried over? There will be someone who is winning even when a 100/1 emerges victorious like the huge queue found in Bangalore and Chennai years before when C Krishnan won on a 1000/1 win and 200/1 place in a classic race on a MAM'S horse. We must be ready for all these before stepping into the course.

All you can do is to set a target for every race day (you can't set the same target daily) and try to achieve it. You can also select which centres you need to play. Someone crying that P S Chouhan lost badly in Kolkata or Vivek G rode poorly in Delhi race holds no value because the same jockeys perform so well elsewhere like Chouhan winning on 'Time and Tide'and Vivek G getting it right on 'Pyrite' recently.

Money is yours let the brains also be. Believe me, a majority of people who rush here with their choices sometimes play 100 or 200 rupees a day or just take a jackpot ticket and watch the fun. If you want to make money, you must do your own research and go. In school exams, there are students who copy from others and secure a pass but in racing if you try to follow others, it clearly means you are digging your own grave.

I am in racing for long years friends and I win and lose too. However, I pat myself every time I win and console myself whenever I lose. I don't have a finger to point at others. Let others keep doing their job but when are you going to be on your own? That will decide your racing fortunes.

You are right like like

 ajinkya sunderji

naredu brothers combination

but recently after my 15 years racing experience I found one way from past 5 months and succes rate is 75% that is none other than eat fvt follow bookie see the result 

You are spot on.

Instead of playing all races better play 2 or 3 bets a day as your choices whatever odds don't depend on any infos or tips, choices & don't share your bets until you play otherwise you will be misguided, if you going on playing your own choices without any intererference you will not loose much in racing overall you will be in benefitted.