3rd Race horse no 1 place  

My friend jky Kiran Naidu told 

Good Good Good Good 

Play and go home 

@Ajoy,

I saw your post and also Race Videos on HRC site.Your observation is correct With reference to Thunderstrike's post asking information on length of straight prompted me to refer to speed in the straight. Same is the case when people say selecting Winners by Timing is not recommended as Time depends on Pace of Race.There are many such misconceptions.For a long time I analysed Races based on Ratings comparing my Rating with Handicapper's Ratings and difference being small winner picking was difficult 

Person's like Ruchi depend on Speed Ratings which is only a derived figure. Now after switching to only Analysis by Timing there is marked improvement in strike rate. No doubt Times clocked by horse are not consistent and I overcame same by Averaging with Average Normal Time of all participating horses It is possible to pick Winners by pure calculations but there will be exceptions In a Handicap Race there is no One horse race and if we select 2 horses if even if one of them comes in Paying Place at good Odds it is good enough 

Thanks for your interest 

@Sun. Been following your communication with Thunderstike on Timing &Speed. You mentioned finishing speed . I had previously stated in another thread to Thunder...e that Hyderabad had started showing speed of horses ,and I was perplexed that it is only in the initial 300 mtrs that the horses are running the fastest ( for races upto 1600mtrs) and after that their speed drops and remains  pretty constant. You can see the videos of Hyderabad races. Also during the Dubai cup ,they to have the speeds and there too it is the same story(check on YouTube). Only difference was there the initial speed was around 70kms while here it is 67(higher classes). . Just my observations. 

That's great decision taken by Navin n team.  The racing now at ooty Delhi is very substandard n honestly it does not shows real talents of tipsters.  I think it's good not to give points on clubs like ooty n Delhi where only hardly 25% of punters are interested to go.  

Dear friends as my team is constantly giving our report but as now it's off season races conducted n it's actually not at all satisfied for any section.  That's why giving points on hard work of all tipster is not worthwhile and it's not beneficial for racing punters also so we have decoded to restart our point table system from monsoon season onwards when racing will start.  So till than we won't give any reports.  Thank you very much for your valuable support.  

@Thunderstrike

i want to make one thing clear that Speed Rating system is different from my method of Timing Analysis 

Speed Rating is a derived figure and as finishing speed in the home stretch is supposed to be high you are trying to get details of length of home stretch etc. Don't complicate things,That much accuracy is not necessary when so many unquantifiable parameters are there

Keep it simple 

@ bhararh

All tipsters are just expressing their visions and selections. No one has the right to blame anyone and no one is forcing you to play their selections.

Upcoming Ooty & Delhi races are highly unpredictable,studies doesn't work and results will be like matka, matka have more advantage then upcoming races

Hi horsetalkians,

          There is no point in criticizing each other in this forum. The trend of the racing nowadays is not at all trustworthy. In the absence of RWITC, BTC, MRC, KRC, MRC   it is considered to be worst and seem to be brain drain and pocket derain racing being conducted at Delhi and OOTY. It is quite evident from the week end racing where the rank outsiders dominate the proceedings. My humble suggestion to the punters is please don't venture into OOTY and Delhi races as they are all made up races. For example how could GOLDEN MARINA able to win against firmidable SOMETHING ROYAL, KNOTTY DANCER and STILL I RISE. 

         Please be very careful and save your pockets from looting by these so called trainers, jockeys and bookies.

K. VIJAYAKUMAR. 

@Arun Boxy,

Are you referring to MB Manglorkar and Karan Singh at Hyderabad 

Arun Boxy

Please do not leave racing. You can take break and analyse where you can do better.  Keep giving your selections but do not bet on it. Orelse do betting like me forecast, quinella, tanala , treble jackpot etc. until you find your good strike rate .

I can understand your frustration, but you are one among good tipsters. You are expecting to do wonders at ending season is exceptional.  Please keep giving selections or open new topics for educational purposes to interact with other fellow members.

Let me give you one example, 

Race number 231, Delhi 15 Apr 2024

Please read the racing incidents with regards to Super Song and Super Speed .

**** App Jockey Varun (SUPER SONG) reported that his mount lugged out in the straight in spite of his efforts.Trainer V S Parmar has been asked to take remedial measures.

After the race,SUPER SPEED (K Sunny Kr.) was found to be lame by its right fore leg. Trainer Ajay Sharma has been asked to obtain a veterinary certificate of fitness before next accepting to race. ****

My first two choices were Super Song and next best Super Speed .but after reading racing incidents I was under assumption that both of them might get withdrawn. Also never ever I expected a horse to recover from lameness in 7 days. Either the Delhi racing commitee is making fun of punters or There should have been an enquiry or probably I am wrong that A horse can't recover from lameness in 7 days and win the race .

But what will they do by an enquiry? Will they return punters money. You know they won't.

Please don't give up. Try to improve on strike rate.

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Sun 

I know and I think I should get time by this week to start focusing on speed ratings. Can you please help me out with final straight distance for every centre ?

I actually learned few tricks by following Saidas tips. But Ashwa Sardar was in my range for only third or fourth place at Max but it won. Only Saidas can help us understand how he managed to select this horse against ASHWA Yashodhara. Thats the reason I consider him as logical guru. Also Ksrao , Libero Anna , Godzilla are logical gurus.

Let's hope we can get better selections. 

Hi all Htians..Please don't b so cruel on Mr Deepak  Apart from Ashwa sardar he was spot on with his laying, He's just trying to be a help for all, Give him some acknowledgement rather than being harsh..yes i agree he cud have been more academic while putting his thoughts...Please continue Mr Deepak with your analysis..

Day of Ashwa today,remembering the old days when a racing centre was dominated in this way.seeing the results today I think should quit racing.mr Deepak you stay I quit racing.

Good luck to all my brothers in this forum.

@ Thunderstrike

All my selections are on Timing Calculations basis No other factor considered except Age 

So it is possible to pick winners on Timing Analysis 

I observe your selections tally with mine Though I am a member of HT forum for more than 15 years I used to analyse few interesting races It takes about 45 mins to analyse a race with 12 runners However my energy levels do not permit to spend that much time 

After Navin Pune started giving race day reports I just wanted test my system for a while

On this forum I found you as a Punter trying to learn few things for better strike rate 

Wish you all the best 

Oh  what a result in Delhi races toda From 1:to 5 races all ashwa won and chauvan familiy. Waiting for last race result

Are we seeing evolution of another Racing " Mogul" based at Delhi?

5th. 1 or 9

4th. Shp 4. Win 5 or 6

@Deepak,

No space for dogmatic views in Racing Any thing can happen Each one has his own method for picking Winners 

One day it is your turn and next day someone else's time 

Mr.Deepak,

I hope ,you are a man of word. Hence as stated by you, you will quit racing as Ashwa sardar has won the race as tipped by saidas kher.

All the best .

Saidas Kher 

ASHWA SARDAR has won , congratulations. I should have kept it in my combinations. My bad Luck.  

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Sun

I did kept ASHWA HAITHER in my combinations but ASHWA SARDAR suprised me. Congratulations to you guys.

@Deepak

Deepak it's time for you to quit racing - Ashwa Sardar (9) win 12/1 .. good luck in your future.. I think you should take tution from saidas kher ... Please consider my advice.. in future I hope I don't see any post from you .. .. 

Quit 

And now Mr Deepak will keep all his holes shut and leave this forum.

Or, he should publicly apologize for his immature ranting to continue in this forum. 

CONSULTANT 

AT DEEPAK....... GIVING TIP IS VERY DIFFICULT   ........

Hello mr. Deepak....are u going to quit races from today? Really?

3rd. SHP 1.

EW. 2 Lodge keeper & 7 Halycon

# mr. Deepak, 

Congratulations for stopping from racing activity. Actually it will be a good decision either fpr you or many of us. Good luck, God bless m

2nd. Win between 10 Ashwa Sigma  & 8. Peaceful./2  Senor. place 

*KRISHNA:=- Yor DB Wht achoice choice.@7/1. Played no1 w/shp. Really missed ur DB.

6th. 9 My Pearl looks good with good tracks.

Delhi selection

1=5 ashwa sabira win place

2=8 peacefull place

3=3 divit place 

4=4 master stepper win 

5=3 niche storm place 

6=6 sui guenrius win place 

Play safe be safe

Race no.1=play no.5 win/place

Race no.2=play no.4 win/place

Race no.3=play no.7 win/place

Race no.5=play no.4&8 according to adds win/place

Race no.6=play no.9 win/place

STRIDE AWAY:=- Shud b der.

ASHWA SIGMA:=- Shud win.*

ASHWA YASHODHARQ:=- Shud win.*

KINGS CRAZY:=- Shud place acne upset.

VEDHAGARBA V/s ASWA JOHENSBERG.

SUPER SONG V/s ASHWA BINACA.

[PLAE SAFE] Rest is gambling.*

My only concern is Thunder and Singhania...the tipster who gave such non merit horses keeps giving such choices over last three months.

Most times he tips such perplexing choices which have absolutely no form at all.

I followed and burnt my fingers beyond recovery that is why I take it as my duty to warn..

Tipping ASHWA SARDAR..late WINDERMERE.common knowledge on past runs,ASHWA SARDAR needs minimum 1400 mts to perform,today it will struggle even to come 8 th,more so as same owner horse ASHWA YASHODHRA IS PAST THE FINISH CANNOT LOSE.If you want place play DIVIT.

NEXT ORALE will come third

Last race SUPER SONG WILL HACK THE FIELD., EXCEPTIONS will follow in second spot and will finish either 2 nd or 3rg.Mostly third.

1....1.stride away 

1//24//356

2......2.senor

Upset 10.a.sigma 

Exacta..210//945//2109//186

3....1..a.yashodhra 

Ex.1//410//3962//410375

4.....4.m stepper 

Ex.4//27//3568//27359

5....1.jet sukhoi

Upset. 9.vedagarbha

Ex. 19//342//1976//348510

6....3..super speed 

Exacta. 3//52//187//52649

Deepak

Are you sure that EXCEPTIONAL will not be in One and Two ? 

Aaahh can you kindly share in sixth race  which horse is going to be in One and Two ?

Also how are you ignoring ORALIE ? 

My views as far as I have gone through from past five months. Anything can happen in Racing. So pulling someone's leg every now and then is not good. Everyone is trying to give their best. You are most welcome to share your selections too. If failed, surely you will not be targeted by me. Please be supportive and share your suggestions why those horses are not going to be in board. Helping each other should be our motto.

Anyways good luck 

OK Mr. Deepak we will follow your instructions can you please share your choice so that we can follow n earn after all it's matter of investment... So we will go with your... 

1) BAY OF BISCAY (2)

2) ASHWA HAITHER (9)

3) ASHWA YASHODHRA (1)

4) CRESSIDA (2)

5) ----OPEN RACE--------

6) EXCEPTIONAL (5) Best bet

Govindarajan S(Chennai)

as usual posting libero ji's selections with his permission

Delhi Dhamaka

1st Race

with better rest than others, 2 Bay of Biscay may score today, 4 Burning Desire can spoil if tried

1*2*4 box

2nd Race

looks like fight between 4 Heer, 5 Meridia & 8 Peaceful, with winning jockey back at winning trip, 8 Peaceful may score, ignoring 6 Mighty as jockey trainer combo is yet to win this season and horse always won with visiting jockey's only (good eat bet if made favorite)

4*5*8 box

3rd Race

1 Ashwa Yashodhra & 4 Galway Bay is in line for a hatrick, former looks better based on trainers form, 7 Halcyon can try to upset both

1*4*7 box

4th Race

toughest race of the day with more than a few contenders looking good(1,2,3,4,7,&9), based on jockey riding, 4 Master Stepper may win from a close call with 7 Oralie & 9 King Crezy

5th Race

another tough race, 3 Niche Storm, 6 Fargo, 8 Bhujanga, 9 Vedagarbha & 10 Divine Honey looks to be main contenders, youngest in bunch and first time in class III, 10 Divine Honey may upset all

10-3*6*8*9 F&Q

6th Race

with age on side, 2 Racing Boy to fight it out with 7 Ashwa Binaca, with a good apprentice 5 Exceptional can prove threat to both

2*5*7 box

All the best

better returns may be on

1-4 place

2-8 place

3-1 win

4-4 win / 9 place

5-10 win place

6-5 place

TELLME

1=2-3-4

2=8-9-10

3=1-3-4

4=4-5-9

5=4-7-8

6=2-3-5

1st race skip

2nd race#4 Heer each way 

3rd race skip

4th race #9 kings crezy good bet

5th race skip

6th race #3 Super speed (days best)

Good luck

1st. 1 Sride Away 

3rd. 7-3

4th. 3- 8-9

5th 1-8-9

Delhi 22.4.24

1) degber. 

2) senor vs mighty vs ashva haither 

3) galway boy should beat ashva yashodhara.

Place halcyon 

4) bad race.  Master stout vs cressida vs oralie 

5)ashwa jonnesberg.  Divine honey and attenborough may place 

6) racing boy vs super song. Exceptional will try 

MSG 

My Choices

R1            5  Ashwa Sanira

R2            9  Ashwa Haither          8      Peaceful

R3            10  Shes a beauty         4     Galway Bay

R4             7    Oralie                      8     Big Daddy 

Delhi bomb ???? 

2-8 should win

3-1 should win 

4-4 should win 

5-10 should win

6-9 win play line in qqqqqqqq 

Bomb ???? 

1st Race.    ASHWA SABIRA

2nd Race.   PEACEFUL

3rd Race.    LODGE KEEPER

4th Race.    MASTER STOUTE

5th Race.    FARGO

6th Race.    SUPER SONG

Race 1 : (3) DIGAMBER followed by  (2) BAY OF BISCAY 

Race 2 : (10) ASHWA SIGMA followed by (8) PEACEFUL

Race 3 : (1) ASHWA YASHODHRA followed by (4) GALWAY BAY

Race 4 : (4) MASTER STEPPER followed by (9) KINGS CREZY

Race 5 : (4) ASHWA JOHANNESBURG followed by (8) BHUJANG

Race 6 : (5) EXCEPTIONAL followed by (2) RACING BOY

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Good bets

(1) ASHWA YASHODHRA 

(4) MASTER STEPPER 

(4) ASHWA JOHANNESBURG 

Race#1: 3: Digamber | 1: Stride Away

Race#2: 1: Moriseiki | 3: Winning Legacy

Race#3: 2: Lodge Keeper | 3: Divit

Race#4: 3: Player | 6: Master Stoute

Race#5: 3: Niche Storm | 1: Jet Sukhoi

Race#6: 2: Racing Boy | 1: Super Song

Today Delhi Selection :

Race 01 : HNo : 4 Burning Desire Vs HNo: 01 Stride Away

Race 04 : HNo: 4 Master Stepper

Race 05 : HNo 6: Fargo (Eachway)

Delhi choices today 

1 race:2-Bay of biscay-win

2 race:7-Successful-e/w

3 race:1-Ashwa yashodhara-win(days best)

4 race:1-Ashwa fiaro-e/w

5 race:3-Niche storm-place

6 race:1-Super song-e/w

If ASHWA SARDAR even comes 5 th and 

NICHE STORM

ORALUE

EXCEPTIONAL 

if any of above even come second I will give up racing.Wonder what sort of study tipsters do to mislead by giving such choice

1#(1)STRIDE AWAY 

2#(6)MIGHTY 

3#(3)DIVIT 

4#(2)CRESSIDA

5#(6)FARGO 

6#(3)SUPER SPEED

1-3.  1

2-2.  10

3-1.  7

4-4.  3

5-8.  9

6-1.  2

Daysbest 3-1

Double 2-2.  5-8

Lay 4-9

1 - 3

2 - 4

3 - 4

4 - 3

5 - 1

6 - 3

1st race-2- Bay of Biscay.6- more bucks.

2nd race-10-Ashwa sigma.1-Moriseiki.

3rd race-4- Galway Bay.

4th race-4-Master stepper.6-Master stoute.

5th race-10-Divine honey.

6th race-2-Racing Boy.

RACE 1=BAY OF BISCAY(2) Should oblige in this batch easily

RACE 2=SUCCESSFUL(7) Looking good n HEER(4) Can join him on board. Fight for post will be between them.

RACE3=ASHWA YASHODHRA(1) Can make it. ASHWA SARDAR(9) Is also now set free to flow.

RACE 4= ORALIE(7)  Should be in top.

RACE 5= NICHE STORM(3) Should fire in this class only aspect is how quickly he takes the lead.

RACE 6=EXCEPTIONAL(5) Confident to register it's authority in top.

1 - 5 ASHWA SABIRA(Day's Best),  1 STRIDE AWAY

2 - 1 MORISEIKI,  9 ASHWA  HAITHER

3 - 4 GALWAY BAY,  5 BISON

4 - 4 MASTER STEPPER,  8 BIG DADDY

5 - 4 ASHWA JOHANNESBURG,  5 ATTENBOROUGH

6 - 1 SUPER SONG,  6 SUI GENERIS

GOOD LUCK!