Inspite of being in horse racing for almost 40 years..... I beg to know.....
Bangalore race....26 th July (Saturday)
Race no 6 ....The Bangalore City Sprint Championship Gold Cup...
Horse no 1....2.....3.....5 ....all raced in Race no 99(29 th July..... this Bangalore season)
Horse no 1(ALDGATE )was 4th and carrying a weight of 53.5 kg..... Today 60 kg
Horse no 2( CROWN DRIVE)was 3rd and carrying a weight of 52 kg..... Today 60 kg
Horse no 3( IMPERIAL BLUE)was 6th and carrying a weight of 52.5 kg.... Today 60 kg
Horse no 5 (TIME AND TIDE)was the WINNER and carrying a weight of 60 kg ..... Today 60 kg.....
What is the REASON...?????
15 Replies
Vamshi Krishna said ...
26-Jul-2025
@ Krathi Batakuru
Time and Tide is a sprinter
Julliete is a stayer
No match for both horses
That are best in their own terms
Study horse racing properly
Maverick said ...
26-Jul-2025
Those who wants to play Time and Tide kindly think once. The horse to beat is absolutely time and tide only. Here are the some facts as per my limited racing knowledge.
This horse performance in limited horses races(I.e. runners less than 6 no's) it 4 times only one 1 time .
The horse needs good pacer in the race here it is defenitly not there knotty charmer takes as pacer and it will control the prime position. so t&t doesn't like the slow pace it may loss.
Iam not sure but chances are there.
This is my observation. My strong choice is Time and Tide but I will not play I will enjoy.
Mickey said ...
26-Jul-2025
Punters have never made a fortune out of racing unless you choose 1 or 2 bets per session .
Horse owners buy horses so that they can make money not the punters
Now to your question rules are also made by the horse owners.
They are hands & gloves with the club.
Kranthi Betukuru said ...
26-Jul-2025
I think it's time loose time and tide. Time and tide is not bigger then julliete one day comes with respect
Stalingrad said ...
25-Jul-2025
Hi Everyone,
Might not be a fact but just speculation, These are Terms races and very difficult to understand and the Terms determine the weights. Although two types of Terms races as per my knowledge, one is Age to weight Terms and the other is Level weight Terms with only sex allowance of 1.5kgs.. Today's race is Level weight Terms and the same Sprint race run in the Invitation weekend..
These two Terms always run very differently irrespective of their weight and just for example Corfe Castle always performed great in Level Weight Terms and Turns out to be dud in Age to Weight Terms.. Also Shivalik Star from Arjun Manglorker Yard..
I'm a noob, Seniours please find the thread bwn both the terms..
Only One said ...
25-Jul-2025
Time and tide will run at 40ps or 50ps.
Will take home the stakes money in a canter
Ashok Deb Chowdhury said ...
25-Jul-2025
From very reliable sources.....
ODDS..... 7...8...Paisa
So a CLEAR WINNER.... as per the TERMS
Ashok Deb Chowdhury said ...
25-Jul-2025
I am aware of that this is a TERM race and not a handicap one....
But ....Horse no 2(Crown Drive)....4 yrs old...and no WIN in last 5 races
Horse no 5 (Time And Tide)..5 yrs old....last 5 races .... All winner
Horse no 1(Aldgate).... 6 yrs old.... And 1 WIN in last 5 races
Horse no 3(Imperial Blue)....7 yrs old.... and 1 WIN in last 5 races
Inspite of this.... Horse...1...2....3....5....all will be carrying 60 kgs
Moreover R-99(29 th June.....less than a month back)..... So there is no logical reason that TIME AND TIDE will not WIN again.... And the odd should be a CRAMPED one....
But in reality he will get a ATTRACTIVE odds (for the peti players)... And in all probability he will loose.....
This is the TERMS......
Jp said ...
25-Jul-2025
The terms of the race is for 3 year olds and over. Weights to be carried 1) 4 year olds and over 60 kgs
2) 3 year olds 52 kgs.
All the acceptors are 4 year olds and above and so they are all carrying 60 kgs.
Maverick said ...
25-Jul-2025
Here is the creteria for race who wants to participate. Just go through this you will get your answer.
4 years old and over. Weights: 4 years old only - 51.5 Kgs. @racehead = 5 years old and over - 52 Kgs. Penalties :
(i) Winner after 30th April, 2023 of a (a) Grade III race to carry 1 kg. or either of two or more such races to carry 2 kgs. OR (b) Grade II race to carry 3 kgs. or either of two or more such races to carry 4.5 kgs. OR (c) Grade I race to carry 6 kgs. or either of two or more such races to carry 7.5 kgs. (ii) Winner after 30th April, 2025 of a race of the value of Rs.6,00,000 or over to carry 1 kg. OR either of two or more such races or a race of the value of Rs. 10,00,000 or over to carry 1.5 kgs. OR either of two or more such races or a race of the value of Rs.25,00,000 or over to carry 2 kgs extra. N.B. If the highest weight an acceptor has to carry is less than 60 Kgs it shalll be raised to 60 Kgs and the other weights shall be raised equally.
I hope you understand now.
Roger said ...
25-Jul-2025
It's a terms race not a handicap race.
Godzilla said ...
25-Jul-2025
Time and Tide is carrying 60 kgs. Winner in 60 kgs perhaps should carry 65 kgs according to him.
Perhaps, someone, should answer him in Handicapping.
Trilok Vadehra said ...
25-Jul-2025
This is a term race, not a handicap race. The weight alloted to a horse is as per the terms.
Vimal ( Chennai ) said ...
25-Jul-2025
The weight is given to horse on the terms of the race that's why it's called terms races
To make to clear check the prospectus
Bangalore Turf Club Ltd. will guarantee total prize money of
Rs.12,00,000.
3 years old and over.
Weights: 4 years old and over - 60 kg
3 years old only - 52 kg
Allowances: Fillies and Mares allowed 1.5 kg
N.B.If the highest weight an acceptor has to carry is less than 60 kg it
shall be raised to 60 kg and the other weights shall be raised equally.
Ajoy said ...
25-Jul-2025
@Ashok Deb, it is a Terms Race and not a Handicap Race. All runners are given same weight.As per the Terms Time n Tide as got clear advantage . As per my understanding.