Hi All ,
Will appreciate your views on comments from academic perspective on the last Victory of Snowfall. This horse was tracking superbly and many fancied this horse to win on last outing in Class I handicap with Trevor on board( 18/10) fav but it finished 7th with Market king and Ahead of my time finishing ahead him . It wins a G3 race last week like champion with Yash on board @4/1. What went wrong on 1st run of the season ..
1. Needed a run ? While it was tracking brilliantly with excellent sectionals .
2 . Was unable to give weight ? It has won before in Pune carrying 62 kgs .
3. Indifferent handelling or luck of the race , is Yash better than Trevor ?
Wishing Admin & All HT members a very happy Independence day.
8 Replies
Philip Dcruze said ...
20-Aug-2025
Timeform rating rating for horses as follows :-
Siege courageous 98 as per RN 183
Market king 114 as per RN 114
Constable 115 as per RN 115
Its my time 91 RN 7
Jade 114 RN 178
Snowfall 136 RN 161 ( Pls remember it was slow off on that race )
Snowfall was having a highest TFR of 136 , probability for win is more for Snowfall.
Courtesy to Mr S.K.Sagar for TFR.
Maverick said ...
15-Aug-2025
If you gone through the race it was sheer luck for snowfall.
1) Seige lost the whip at first 150 mtrs so travelled without whip through out.
2) Jade coming from a break and run green went outside and inside market king came obstacle inside rail. So not got gap and settled there itself.
3) Snow fall always comes from behind with weight some kgs down all above points came into consideration.
if you have doubt check time which is not so great.
Thank you
Kulkarni said ...
15-Aug-2025
Veteran Punter said ...
14-Aug-2025
Hello Krish24_B'lore,
It's important to never compare the results of a handicap race with those of a terms race for any horse.
In her first outing this season, Snowfall participated in a handicap race and, being the highest rated horse in the field, she had to concede weight all around, carrying 62.5 kg due to her top rating. In that race, she was giving away 1.5 kg to Market King. Her subsequent race was a graded event, and as you know, ratings for weight assignments in a terms race do not matter. After conceding weight in her last race, she was now receiving weight from the other horses, carrying only 54.5 kg. Market King, the common competitor in both races, was carrying 57.5 kg. This meant Snowfall had a 4.5 kg advantage over Market King, who finished third in their last encounter while Snowfall did not place.
Therefore, it was no surprise that she capitalized on the terms of the race.
Also, keep in mind that in the highest class, even a small weight difference of a kilo can significantly impact the results. Before I wrap up, I want to emphasize once more that you should never use the same criteria when comparing a class 1 race to a terms race.
I trust you now understand why Snowfall rightfully won her previous race, The Yohan Z. Poonawalla Turf Club Trophy (Grade 3)
(TERMS, Horses, 4 years old and over)
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Pure Class said ...
14-Aug-2025
Race no.7 snowfall has 62.5kg weight for any horse is too much , snowfall has all potential to win but weight logged him back. Second time Race no.35 snowfall carring 8 kg less then is previous run.
In horse racing weight take special place and it's changes results .
One who knows he knows ,other wise it's blind bet.
Gc Raj said ...
14-Aug-2025
This Horse'S these 2 runs are the best example for the present situation of INDIAN racing industry.. there is NO point in DOING THE POST mortem..we should learn from these incidents and avoid betting on such horses when they are facvourites with TOP jockies riding them
Pimmy said ...
14-Aug-2025
Hello Dear,
if you watch the last run where Snowfall won, observe the horse Jade who got severe, serious check at the railing by Market King. Also once again at around 100 metres too got squeezed and had to be steadied otherwise Jade would have won the race hands down.
There is no point discussing about merit of Snowfall's victory because the race was gifted due some immatured riding of jockey Vivek G.
Kindly watch the race three to four times. Link shared below.
https://youtu.be/kiuKugKx4-8?si=Pf2500s3Q6hgmo_j
Ashok Deb Chowdhury said ...
14-Aug-2025
Got a better ODDS..... With 7 kgs less weight....
And in both the days the winner was the BOOKIES....